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Monday’s meltdown was ‘ugly,’ ‘not a big league game.’

Terry Collins didn’t mince words Monday after the Mets committed six errors, including three in a brutal eighth inning, as the Marlins rallied for a 9-6 victory.

“Well, I’m not sure I can say it publicly,” Collins said, when asked what he was thinking when watching the game. “It was not a big-league baseball game. … It was ugly.”

The six errors were one short of the franchise record.

The Mets have made 32 errors since the All-Star break, which is the third most in baseball.

2B Dilson Herrera was charged with two errors, while Jeurys Familia, who took the loss, made two throwing errors leading to three runs in the eighth.

“I think I’m trying to be too quick,” said Familia. “Before I get the ball, I’m thinking, ‘I’ve got to throw perfectly.’”


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: It was a meltdown, plain and simple. Why? The dark side of going with a young team, some guys new to the league, others new to positions…

For instance, I want Eric Campbell in left field. The Mets need to see what he’s capable of. Well, we now know he needs to work on his diving catches, because he overshot a leap Monday that ricocheted off the heel of his glove and kicked off a disastrous eighth inning.

Familia then bounced a throw to Hererra at first, which the kid is almost certainly capable of picking up, but he didn’t. Again, he’s a kid, the big-league game moves fast and he’s still adjusting. Familia then bounced a pitch that got by Travis d’Arnaud, which lead to a run, which was followed by another bunt and another bad throw in the dirt from Familia. Frankly, these throws from Familia are a big concern, because he’s been doing it all season. It’s getting worse of late. It’s not there yet, but he’s getting close to Steve Sax, Mackey Sasser, yips territory, and the sooner the Mets handle this with him the better – especially since teams are going to soon start bunting on him just to make him throw.




110 comments
Don Kachuba
Don Kachuba

wright has never been fit to lead. thats why the C(aptain) thing was and is a joke. 


he was good as a younger player with talent like delgado, reyes, and beltran surrounding him. 


but now he is physically and mentally damaged, older, and has no supporting cast. This isn't the guy who puts a team on his back for a month like so many quality stars and leaders. 


he is a company tow-the-liner. good for the wilpons because he answers the questions in the locker room, smiles, stays out of trouble off the field, etc. 


but once we get passed the mickey-mouse BS that so many fawn over, you got a guy that the mets depend on to be the leader and he simply is not to the level required of a winning team. 


Wilpon, Wright, and Terry personify the Mets...in a bad way. We need some fire. Carter, Herandez types.....REAL CAPTAINS

tk2120
tk2120

Sooner or later, someone is going to realize that a full team of kids doesn't work. You cant bring up 18 prospects & expect them to all perform at the same time. One day this team will be nice and balanced..probably when Wright is 47 years old.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Gee, ya' think, Terry?  Have you noticed that the frequency of games like this increases as the season slowly slips-away. Too many mental errors (Flores cadillacing into 2B), too many physical errors, too many strategic errors. Am forced to agree with Ron Darling. Familia may have the best pure stuff on the staff but he's a pitcher, not an athlete. Plus the guy has been getting tattooed lately. Overuse perhaps?

semperfi
semperfi

Campbell has worked out very well as a platoon with Duda and PH duties and utility role, LF should be last resort and as long as there is a better defensive option he should not play there, denDekker was leading AAA in hitting an extra base hits while leading off, he was hitting .275/.375 against lefty's and is our 2nd best defensive option in the OF, he should have been give the everyday LF job while leading off and have Herrera bat 2nd, both were extra base hit machines, drop Granderson to the 5th hole where he is hitting .395as opposed to .210 leading off or worse yet .090 batting 2nd, Grandy might have been a good top of the order option when he was younger but he is a liability there now, just look at the numbers and put Flores in a run producing role where he belongs, over 2 year s in AAA at 22 he produced more RBIs then anyone

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

WFAN just announced the Mets fired their VP of Ticket Sales over the weekend. Seems awfully cruel -- like firing the CEO of an airline company for the travel slowdown after 9/11. 

What did ownership expect? Mets tickets are probably the toughest thing to sell in pro sports right now. 

triviaace
triviaace

I'm sure he wasn't jumping up and down smiling as he watched his job go out the window,  as it should.

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

Wally Backman is a stud..... Please show us met fans some mercy and hire him as our manager already!  Collins stinks!

Doubleday
Doubleday

Lest I remind the David bashers that Tom Seaver went 11-11 in 1974. There was talk that he was through. The next year, I am pretty sure he won the Cy Young Award.

ventura_4
ventura_4

Fan confidence rating has been at 59% pretty much all season. Don't hold a vote and not post the results. 

ventura_4
ventura_4

lol pretty sure they're not going to "work on" Campbell's diving catches - this sounds like it was written by a 12 year old. 

baldy
baldy

Was reading an article on Houston's managerial search and how they essentially want a puppet and it occurred to me that Terry would be perfect there. What do you guys think about this trade: Terry and Thor to the Astros in exchange for not having to see Terry anymore?

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

"we know he has to work on his diving catches"


Reading this blog has left you wondering if the author is serious or not - he may be in this case. 

NewBreeder
NewBreeder

Can we please calm down and give the kid Herrera a couple more games before we start moving him to the outfield or elsewhere? One of his errors yesterday was a botched play covering first on a ball in the dirt. Duda would've had a tough scoop on it. He's anxious to impress, that's obvious. But he's making good contact at the plate. Let's give him the full benefit of 2 weeks while Murph's on DL then watch him some more. We may have a keeper here and Murph's value may never be higher than right now. BIG off-season coming.

matmil
matmil

The way TC has responded to things as this season has unfolded reminds me of being on a boat that has sprung a leak. It doesn't instill confidence in the passengers when the Captain of the ship does nothing when it flounders. And probably tells you that it's not the passengers who have it wrong but a captain who isn't up to the job.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

The Eric Campbell play was not that easy. I don't blame him for it. Herrera looked green but he also hit a triple and a home run, so you know, broke out even. Also, among the errors was one by Wright. Key error as I recall. Famalia is a concern -- time to snip it in the bud.

matmil
matmil

You have to hit bottom before you start climbing back out. Look at the bright side, we'll still be here when TC and SA and even the Wilpons are just things that wake you up screaming in the night. Not worth getting an ulcer over.

Aidan Dolly
Aidan Dolly

I love how David turns out a bad year the fielding and power are no where to be seen but u have ppl calling him a bum or trade worthy this is a joke he can turn it around and carry the team like he's do in the past. If u look at his career when he's had even a decent team he's been top the charts end of story and I do agree terry must go. It just didn't work out

ponzies86
ponzies86

Now I see why Reynolds from the MLB network isn't buying the Mets on doing anything next year even with Harvey back. This team isn't managed the right way. The Marlins look like the team to beat in the near future alongside the Nats.

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

I would move Murphy to 3rd and find takers for Wright!  Not the Popular move but the right move nonetheless!

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

Collin's managing is ugly and not big league!  Why put Campbell in left when you could put E. Young or Captain Kirk, much better defensive players?

MetsGoLetsGo
MetsGoLetsGo

Any chance Herrera could make a move to LF? His bat looks good, but his glove isn't too sharp. Could just be rookie jitters, but he had an issue with errors in the minors as well which doesn't make this sound like a fluke. In his 267 games at 2B he has 40 errors, in Murph's last 283 he has 17.

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

No No its not going to the dark side with young players


It is reality that this is the team the Mets can afford right now and the type of team we will see next season as well.


You get what you pay for....this is not going to change...it is not the players fault. it is the people who created it

rock44
rock44

How are Sandy & Co going to spin a last place finish as "progress"? This should be interesting.

Doubleday
Doubleday

LJ Mazzilli made his AAA debut tonight. With LJ, Herrera, Flores, Reynolds, and even Tejada in the middle infield mix, I hope Daniel Murphy isn't planning on renewing his lease in NY.

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

@Jay Cross adding to that, they are top 5 in average ticket price and bottom 5 in payroll. Its a scam-artist tactic, truly incredible.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@Doubleday Wright has clearly not been the same player in 2014. Let's just hope it's the shoulder and not the start of a long, slow decline into Jason Bayhood.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@NewBreeder He'll have more than 2 weeks. Calf injuries are tough and take awhile to heal. I wouldnt be surprised if Murphy missed the rest of the year.

mike23
mike23

you can't get down on a 20 year old kid who just got called up, he is nervous, he is anxious right now and the game is moving way faster than it will be once he gets used to MLB... also he doesn't look like a corner outfielder, mets fans just panic due to the mess and lack of confidence being a met fan provides. 

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

@Joe Paulson  Captain Kirk, Den Dekker and even Eric Young easily make that catch!  Being that Campbell hit for Den Dekker,  Collins still had 2 better defensive options to play in left than Campbell!   Collins is a schmuck!

triviaace
triviaace

@Aidan Dolly He's playing hurt but won't take himself out of the lineup because he is a competitor.  It should be the managers job to sit him until he is healed and ready to play at his former level.  Too bad we don't have a manager.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Keeping in mind that last year's Gold Glover from Rockies has 1 less error than Wright in 20+ less games. As bad as he's been his offensive numbers (less power) stack up decent against rest of NL 3B. Miracle actually given how low his average is and how little power he has shown. Not to mention he is still second on team in BA among regulars and second in RBI. Got to believe the shoulder is an issue. He'll rest up and come back more motivated than ever.

ventura_4
ventura_4

In the same breath you said David is capable of carrying a team, and he's good when he has a decent team around him. Can't have it both ways. David can not carry a team. Stanton & Trout - those are two guys who are capable of carrying a team. 

ventura_4
ventura_4

@ponzies86 Marlins have as good  starting pitching as the Mets, and they have an offense with a player who is capable of carrying them - they're in better shape. 

matmil
matmil

You've got to give him more than 3 games, c'mon man

joe21
joe21

His bat doesn't profile at a corner OF spot, they need more bop and if they can get it elsewhere in LF, Herrara profiles as an above average 2B offensively. We will see whether or not he can handle it defensively, but it is a low bar to cross for a D upgrade there after Murphy.

dukewillie
dukewillie

@rock44 By simply stating that their losing record isn't that important. It's their APPROACH to the games that's important, and that TC has done a good job  :(

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

@Doubleday I would move Murphy to 3rd and find takers for Wright!  Not the Popular move but the right move nonetheless!

nwmets
nwmets

@triviaace The little graph on the right side of this page that says 59% in big orange numbers should be a dead giveaway.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@ventura_4 Trout has plenty of all-star caliber talent around him. The names alone are protection. Sure, Stanton is "carrying" the team, but the Marlins are still under .500. No ONE player can carry a team, but they can sure make a huge impact. Imagine Stanton patrolling RF for us and adding an extra 35-40 HRs to our lineup...