Wilmer Flores (Baron)

Wilmer Flores will start at SS next week

Mets SS Wilmer Flores is expected to start at shortstop early next week (ESPN NY, Mar. 7).

Flores has not started a game at shortstop since Single-A St. Lucie in 2011, he said last week.

Terry Collins said he has considering Flores, as opposed to Anthony Seratelli, for a back-up infielder on the big-league roster this season (ESPN NY, Mar. 6).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I want to see him play regularly at shortstop, so we can all get a better sense of him in that type of role. I’m not sure it will matter, because I still believe he’ll end up starting the year in Triple-A Las Vegas. But, it will be good to have an idea where he may fit in down the road. In the event Ruben Tejada is the starting shortstop, and Ike Davis starts at first base, I expect Seratelli, Anthony Recker, Josh Satin, Lucas Duda and Juan Lagares/Eric Young Jr. to be on the bench. It’s acquiring SS Nick Franklin or free-agent SS Stephen Drew that will have a bigger impact on the roster than how Flores does in spring games at shortstop.




38 comments
Mike Rafael
Mike Rafael

If he is even passable at SS, Flores should start. Here's why:

- Flores hit .321 w 15hrs & 85 RBI in 107 abs at Las Vegas last year. He's got nothing left to prove in the minors.

- Flores will do a lot more with 3 abs a game than any other SS on the roster.

- the strength of the Mets is starting pitching. The bullpen is suspect at best.

- think of it this way: would you rather be trailing 3-2 in the 7th and pinch-hitting with Flores before turning the game over to the bullpen, or leading 3-2 and using a defensive replacement at SS when you go to the bullpen?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

We'll get a better sense of him in that role?

Really?  There's a reason he's been pulled off of SS in the minors for years, he has no chance to be a ML caliber SS.

i don't think you can get any worse then tejada @ shortstop. Their replacing him would be a big improvement!

RandomDreg
RandomDreg

How can you say that acquiring Franklin or Drew will have a bigger impact when we obviously don't know and it is likely doubtful that it will happen.  As things currently stand, they are not in the equation so, of course how he plays will have a bigger impact than anything other than the level of Tejada's suckiness.

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

confusing why the notion is that he is destined for AAA. Tejada isn't half the hitter he is, but Tejada is also poor in the field. Yet, he's being given the starting job?

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

We've been hearing all spring that Flores will play SS this spring, and we're a week in with Tejada hurt and nothing.

John Cross
John Cross

He can't be any worse defensively than Tejada, and he's definitely a better hitter

mets2891
mets2891

Absolute freaking disgrace.  This is why other front offices laugh at the Mets.

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

Why, does Cerrone, always have to use, 1059 commas, in every statement. It, makes reading the article, extremely annoying. I really wish all articles on this site were composed solely by Maggie. She is above and beyond the strongest writer on this blog. She is also more knowledgeable about this team and the game, and brings insightful and somewhat objective perspectives to her pieces.

slainte2
slainte2

Teams are going to start making cuts soon, maybe Sandy has an eye on a waiver candidate.  Seattle and Arizona will have to make decisions soon. As bad as having Tejada as starter would be, its impossible to go into season with no viable backup plan at SS (not talking about a backup playing once every two weeks ... I mean in case of injury to Tejada, who is the everyday guy).  I think another SS is coming, its still a waiting game, and I think there is no way that Sandy doesn't make SOME move before season starts.

Max Denby
Max Denby

The annoying thing about this team: they LOSE a ton over the past few years.  And then don't change how they do things.  It's time to let the kids play and shake things up.  Mejia to the starting rotation.  Flores at SS.  


Old man Collins doesn't have the balls to do this though. 

lindro88
lindro88

Just watching an inning the other day, I saw Q unable to make two plays that a SS with range makes sleeping.  That can not happen again this season.  It's nice to have a good bat at SS, but unless its a middle of the lineup bat, that can off set the defense you lose, its a bad decision.  Flores looks like a real nice hitter, but unless he can make all of the routine plays, and provides real thump in the lineup, he is not the answer at SS.  Just think of all of those innings that got extended because we didn't have a SS that was capable of making semi routine plays.  We already give up D for offense with Murphy, we can't really afford to do it at SS as well.  Hopefully Flores surprises everyone and shows some decent range and looks comfortable.

orangeblue
orangeblue

he should be the starter at short not a backup infielder... not gonna acquire outside talent then use what we have and we know he can drive in runs


rstpigeon
rstpigeon

I think the Mets, with their pitching, have to find a solid defensive player and make offense from the position a secondary. Do I hope they end up with both? Sure.But this staff, when it's on, is going to need the double play and keep the ground balls from trickling through. To that end, either Drew or Franklin makes more sense than Flores.


nymess
nymess

This is good news, but I can't believe part of this is sounding like they're trying him out for a role as a backup to Tejada. What a joke. I know it's one player, but replacing Tejada with Flores is this lineup changes things completely. If his defense proves passable, put him in there every day!

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

if this kid even shows JUST slightly below average performance at SS, i have to believe he's going to be the opening day starter. Not that we're hoping for that kind of production, but his upside and his bat should be enough to justify a slight downgrade defensively as compared to what we have---the sheer awesomeness of the Tejada/Q-Dog combo!!

helloboy
helloboy

Having Flores  backup Tejada is like having Piazza backup Thole

mets2014
mets2014

since it looks like e young is going to be the starting LF, wouldn't it make more sense to send lagares down and keep a brown as the 4th OF/power bat off the bench?  he did a pretty good job doing it last year and let's face it lagares coming up in the 9th inning as a pinch hitter may not be the best idea

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

THANK. YOU. GOD.

There are 3 specific guys on this team that need to work their butts off this spring & show the team & the fans that they are good enough to be playing at the big league level. If you don't know who they are, they're Lucas Duda, Ike Davis, and Ruben Tejada. Instead of fighting, each one of them has missed time this week with boo-boos. There's no excuse for it. Each one of them were at the offseason Michigan conditioning & nutrition camp, yet they can't make it 2 weeks without going down. The only one of those 3 who has shown he can produce at the big league level is Ike Davis, but he still has a lot to prove. As for the other 2 - Duda & Tejada - if I never see them on the field in a NY Mets jersey again I would be a happy man. If they don't want to play & prove themselves, then players like Flores & Satin should get looks. There is a very clear answer to the whole SS issue, yet Alderson refuses to put the issue & Tejada to bed once & for all. I don't care if they overpay for him, Stephen Drew needs to be in PSL next week. Enough already.

11gilkey
11gilkey

He should be starting at SS, especially while dough boy, I mean Tejada is hurt.  What do you have to lose? The fact that the Mets are now saying he will be starting at SS next week, I'm more inclined to believe he will never start a game at SS this spring.  

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

That's the best news I have heard on this blog in a long while.

anymos
anymos

@Kevin Connelly The people who have seen Flores play SS, both internally for the Mets and outside scouts, have been saying since he was 19 that he wasn't going to stay at SS.  If they had any confidence he could handle the position on an every day basis, it would be his.  Perhaps he takes this chance, makes some nice plays and surprises them- I'm sure the Mets would love that to be the case - but if they really think he's not cut our for it- why would they throw him to the wolves?

lindro88
lindro88

@rstpigeon  I agree 100 percent. The worst possible scenario is having a less than stellar defensive player, who also provides little to no offense.  This team is not going to be an offensive powerhouse no matter what.  The way they can win games is by playing good defense behind the strongest part of the team, which is the starting pitching.  

lindro88
lindro88

@nymess  This team needs to have a strong defensive player at SS.  If somehow Flores shows that he can play the position decently, similar to the way Peralta plays, not much range, but makes the plays that he has to, it beats what Tejada brings to the table if we see the Tejada from last year.  In a perfect world they would bring in a top notch defensive player to play the position, because this team can not afford to allow teams extra outs.  I guess we will see how Flores handles the position, but having his bat in the lineup, is not nearly as important as having someone who will not let innings extend because they are unable to make plays that any SS with good range can make.  Flores is not Hanley Ramirez.  You can live with his defense because he will dominate at the plate when he's healthy.  

72tilltc
72tilltc

@Mr. SERCH  if he is the 30th best ss in baseball he is better than Tejada.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@Kevin Joseph Patrick Injuries happen. These are tight muscles. Conditioning doesnt prevent tight muscles. They are held out of the lineup, early on in Spring Training, because there is no point in risking further injury, when it is preventable by rest. And your call to Stephen Drew is funny, considering Stephen Drew can't even play a full season himself. Even if we do sign Drew, he is prone to injury, and we would see all these guys in there at some point anyways.

MetsOregon
MetsOregon

@Kevin Joseph Patrick I agree with most of what you say. But Ike Davis did not participate in the off-season conditioning program. And he sucks.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@Victor Triguero Yeah, but can he actually play shortstop? I mean, I can play shortstop too. But Im hardly fleet of foot and dont have the range. Im suspecting the same thing from Flores. I still think Flores would have better value at either 1B or on another team that needs a corner IF.

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

@anymos i agree with you int hat he probably isn't a shortstop. Neither is Tejada. What upside is Tejada giving you? He's horrendous in the field and at the plate, but we just put him out there any way?

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

@lindro88 but they dont have any strong defenders on their current roster at SS. All things considered, its an easy choice to give it to the hitter who has a ceiling, not the busts who have proven they can't get it done.

mets2014
mets2014

@Bob Burket @mets2014 well he is not going to be starting so I believe he has no value as a bat off the bench...to me Andrew brown is better suited for that role

mets2014
mets2014

@Dana Smith @mets2014@Bob Burket anything is possible, but it doesn't take Sherlock holmes to figure out where this is going...if you noticed e young has been playing with the starters at PSL and lagares has been traveling to the away games with the backups

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@mets2014 @Bob BurketHow do we know Lagares isn't starting? There is still 3 weeks to go. Anyone could get hurt before opening day. Lagares could also continue to hit throughout ST and force Terry to start him.