Wilmer Flores could push his way on to Mets bench

Terry Collins wondered out loud if Wilmer Flores, as opposed to Anthony Seratelli, could serve as a back-up infielder on the big-league roster this season (ESPN NY, Mar. 6).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

There is still plenty of time to go before Opening Day, but my bet is still on Seratelli. Flores has options and may benefit from regular playing time at shortstop and second in Triple-A.

To me, either Flores starts in Citi Field or Vegas. It’s a waste of time to let him play sporadically in any location. Omar Quintanilla has proven time and again that he has no business being anyone’s top choice for a 25-man roster.

I’d just as soon give a shot to Seratelli to see what he can do, while Wilmer gets reps in Vegas, Ruben Tejada starts at short, and Sandy Alderson continues to work to trade for M’s SS Nick Franklin or sign free-agent SS Stephen Drew.




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A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

Omar is decent enough defensively, unfortunate offense is often lacking.

Gabe Menna
Gabe Menna

Wasn't Wilmer supposed to get a legit shot at SS? Seems the first week of games with Tejada injured would be perfect.

metstastic
metstastic

Flores has nothing more to prove in the minors. Did anyone read that article about the Cardinals. I don't believe in the, "he must start or else he should start in the minors." If you're ready, you should play in the big league level sporadically until you prove yourself and a spot is ready for you. You can't be just given a spot and be allowed to play there no matter how bad you are like Ike was allowed to.

mets2891
mets2891

Flores cannot be a bench player at this stage of his career.

jongonz718
jongonz718

what is he gonna be this seasons justin tuner? the only thing seratelli will help us with is getting us the furthest from 90 wins as possible...put flores at SS and we'll all be happy

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

It doesn't make sense to send Flores down so you can put a player of Seratelli's caliber on the roster.  Seratelli has been perennial roster filler in the minors for the bulk of his career.  To bring him North with the rest of the team is not a move that a team that is confident of attaining 90 wins would do.  It's a move that shows that the management of this organization is conceding the season from opening day.


As I said before, Seratelli is not a "has been" who is trying to re-ignite a once promising career.  He is a "never was" that no organization felt was worthy of promotion for eight years.  The man was not simply overlooked, organizations felt he was not a major league player.  Either Alderson and Collins are right, and this guy has tons of untapped talent, or the Royals executives were right.

Pete Nabel
Pete Nabel

Has Flores had any time in the minors at SS?

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

We could go out and make a trade for a SS like Franklin, Didi, or Owings but apparently its more important for this team to have 18 RHP prospects. Last time I checked we only have a 5 man rotation

eric88
eric88

Sandy doesn't want to give up Duda in Cabrera trade. He over values all his players which is why we still have Ike. That's why he can't make trades.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

It's not exactly a compliment to earn a spot on the Mets bench.  It's more of a default position. 

eric88
eric88

Can you picture Flores backing up Tejada?

I can't. What a B.S. organization.

mike23
mike23

Mets are wasting games by not playing him at SS, they already know what Tejada is and what Quintinilla is there is no reason Flores should not be starting at least every other game at SS so we can see if he can play or not. I don't get the mets thinking on this one. If not and they really are going to start the season with Tejada and Q will be a disappointment for many mets fans and show that Sandy can not get things done (he's had from last year to upgrade SS). 

Jimmy
Jimmy

Go get Nick Franklin!

FakeSandyAlderson
FakeSandyAlderson

"While Sandy continues to work a trade for Nick Franklin or sign Stephen Drew? What movie are you watching? The stooge has gone the entire offseason without making a single trade. Are you 11?

Christopher Masiello
Christopher Masiello

Play him in Vegas every day split between 1st and Shortstop. Wait for the inevitable suckiness of the losers at those two positions on the big league roster. Plug him into whichever position he is either least butcher-ish at or worse performing in Flushing.

As long as he is OK in the field, I'm sure he'll be better than either our 1st basemen or shortstop offensively.

Metsnow
Metsnow

Seratelli?? OK with Tejada as your SS?? This team needs serious help.. All anyone is talking about is our great pitching...which we won't realize until 2015. Today...NOW...we need a SS, 1B and some power numbers. Our  bench is pathetic. Hard to believe we haven't developed a home grown everyday player since David Wright. Also......Terry talks way too much!!

bill metsiac
bill metsiac

I miss Turner. Better backup than anyone mentioned here, unless Ruben becomes a backup to someone better.

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

he'll push his way into the starting lineup of the Las Vegas 51s. there's more vacancy on the AAA squad and he'll get to hit everyday. can't trade him if he's sitting on the bench

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

Anthony Seratelli? You mean the 31 year old career minor leaguer thats been on 6 teams the last 4 years? Wow he sounds like a real winner. Glad he's aboard this sinking ship

togajb2136
togajb2136

Put Flores in Vegas and call him a corner infielder.  75% first base/25% third base and let him settle down and build some confidence and value.  


Dear Lord, I bet if they could invent another position, they'd give him reps there too.

nagel100
nagel100

anyone who believes that 2014 is the year the Mets contend is deluding himself.  87 million  won't get it done.  not having Harvey won't get it done.  Having Thor in AAA until june or July won't get it done.  having no ss won't get it done.  having no first baseman won't get it done.  


this is about 2015 .  we need to trot out Harvey, Thor and Wheeler backed by 2 solid 4/5 guys.  whoever they are.  of course one has to hope that those 2 come from our system.   Mejia and Montero would be perfect. That means our starting five costs almost nothing.   I don't care if we start 5 right handed pitchers since the majority of hitters hit right handed.   that would allow us to trade Niese, Gee and Colon for help on offense and the pen.


we need to acquire one serious bat at first base , one in left and ss is a must.   Hopefully Met fans come out this year to see Thor and the Wilpons increase the budget to 100.  I feel Legares should be in cf in 2015 for his defense alone.   Give me a hitter in LF and one  at first.  Add a legit ss and we are good to go.


In 2015.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

Flores should be working out at 1st base more than any other position. Both our current 1st basemen can't hit and are already having injury problems this spring.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Omar Quintanilla has no business on a major league roster. This is one case where the devil you don't know cannot possibly be any worse than the devil you do. I would not be at all averse to seeing the Mets pursue a deal for Edouardo Nunez. Not much in the field but the guy can rake. It's a shame that the two clubs rarely deal with one another.

sylow59
sylow59

With some caveats that will follow: Flores should start at SS with Q as the b/u for the following reasons:

1) His bat doesn't play that well at the corners.  It plays better at MI.  He is not an OFer from all reports.

2) Q is a lefty so you could spell Willmer against tough righties. He will have enough on his plate.

3) While he will likley be an offensive juggernaught he will more than likely be well above average at SS. The main question is how much will he give back at defense?

4) Depending on the game situation Q is a late inning replacement.  This is not the endo f the world.  Matt Holliday gets pulled most games after his last AB (he is horrible in the field).

5) They have a good fielding 3Bman, LF, and CF which should reduce some of the problem.  At issue is Murphy's fielding issues.  If Ike comes back then Murphy and Flores can cheat towards the middle and the MI fielding problems are somewhat mitigated.

Caveats: This assumes he is bad at worst.  If he is horrible then no.  You know what Q and Tejada are.  There's not a lot of surprises, well maybe Tejada can bounce back.  As such Flores should get moretime at SS in S/T to better evaluate the level of his shortcomings in the field.  Since the MiL season starts later maybe extended S/T if he is on the cusp/

hashburry
hashburry

Why does he "wonder"?  I am pretty sure his job is to evaluate these guys and bring the best guys North.  For a guy that purports to be a straight shooter, his passive aggressive methods bely that altogether.  Maybe he is just suffering a bit of old age forgetfulness and doesn't realize he is speaking out loud and to a crowd.

hidalgofan
hidalgofan

Is this the Truman Show with Collins? Is every thought he has broadcasted?

mets1973
mets1973

Either play him full time in Queens or send him to Vegas. A young player needs to play, especially one with the potential to be an offensive force.

Vee!
Vee!

It all comes down to do you think Flores' bat makes up for his defensive woes. I think having the minus defense of flores and the plus defense of lagares up the middle balances out and that flores' bat is too good to leave off the starting card.


Get younger NY! Do it!

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Yeah, this team could win 90 games.  Keep thinking that.  SMH   This team MIGHT win 90 at the AAA level.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@flmetsfan I think it makes a lot more sense than bringing a young player with potential north to rot on the bench rather than getting to play everyday which he needs to be doing even if it's in AAA.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Biggie How about putting Flores at SS at all during Spring Training? That's the 1st step to seeing if he can handle it and until they do that it's just a bunch more BS talk from the Mets and there's no point even looking at that as a real possibility in this team's eyes.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@Nick Squatrito That's what happens when you fall in love with every pitching prospect in your minor league system.  For the last five years, there has always been some sort of phenom on the horizon.  First Mejia, then Familia, then Harvey, then Wheeler, then Montero, then Syndergaard, next year it will be deGrom, Matz, Mazzoni, or Tapia.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

@eric88  i rather give up ike.  i think ike sucks, he lounges at everything his swing is awful he's not going to be good


eric88
eric88

Hasn't made a trade in all 4 years unless he is dumping a productive Vet to a contender. Not one!

mets2014
mets2014

@Vee Langer perhaps that will be the arrangement in AAA, because that's where flores and lagares are headed

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@dreamer3kx It's not growing pains...it's a guy that was physically incapable of playing SS...in the minors.  He would instantly be the worst defensive SS in baseball, there is no way he'd put up the offensive numbers to justify it.

ken1010
ken1010

@Bob Burket  No, they might have trouble winning 90 in AAA because the season is only 144 games long.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@Brian Webster @flmetsfanThen bring Quintanilla.  At least he knows how to find the clubhouse at Citi Field.  Why do they always try to find the "local boy does good" type of stories.  So Seratelli is from New Jersey.  So he went to school in New Jersey.  So what?  The guy hits over .270 in the Pacific Coast League at the age of 30, and all of a sudden he's "The Natural"?

Jimmy
Jimmy

They played him at SS late in the game a few days ago. He made a few good plays, one in the hole.

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

@eric88  It's not even about dumping the productive vet its the fact that he hasnt really brought anyone into the organization on his own. Yes, I know he made the trades for Wheeler and Syndergaard but he got them using Omar's players. The only thing he really did was trade Byrd for who? A low end 2nd baseman in Herrera and Vic Black? Who cares. He hasn't even drafted anything of value to this team. Harvey was Omar's. He's only responsible for drafting a Ruben Tejada clone in Checchini, an OF that will never amount to anything in Nimmo and now Smith who looks like he will be a stud but Sandy and Fred may both be dead before he makes it to the majors. I'm not saying Sandy has done a terrible job as GM like other people but he really hasn't done anything spectacular like most people say either. He hasn't brought anything to this team

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

Buy tickets? Are you insane...no one in their right frame of mind is going to games for a 77 win team. How about the Mets spend first before I line the owners pockets. You are delusional.

Jimmy
Jimmy

If you really want them to stop BS-ing you, you have to stop buying tickets and merchandise. Money talks and BS walks.

nymess
nymess

@BringBackDaveTelghe do you always speak in hyperbole?...i understand the guy was moved from shortstop, but how could you possibly predict those things with such certainty? 


I can't see how any Met fan would disagree with at least TRYING Flores at short during these meaningless spring training games, given the current options. 

anymos
anymos

You're that big on Q that you care which one comes north? They're the same kind of player- meaning if we had any depth at SS, Q wouldn't be on our roster or anyone else's.