Will we see Noah Syndergaard on the Mets in the second half of the season?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

My hunch is that we’ll see top pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard starting for the Mets some time in August…

I realize that in late June, Terry Collins told reporters it is possible Syndergaard may not see big-league action this year, despite starting the season ranked by MLB.com as the third-best right-handed pitching prospect in baseball.

Also, Syndergaard still needs work, Triple-A pitching coach Frank Viola recently told SNY.TV’s Rob Brender.


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“We tend to think that he’s been around for a long time, but, in reality, he hasn’t pitched more than 125 innings in a season,” Viola explained. “He has to go out there, he has to get into situations he’s not used to getting into. He has to go deeper into ballgames and work on stuff. … It is a process and hopefully people will give him that time to learn and do it the right way, so that when he does get called up he’s up there for good.”

That said, Syndergaard has around 10-12 starts left this year, given the innings limit the team set for him in Spring Training. I’m sure someone in the current rotation will get injured, maybe get traded or need to miss a start or two, because that’s just the nature of baseball.

Add it all up, plus knowing it will help Sandy Alderson this winter to know what Syndergaard is capable of doing as a big leaguer next year, and I trust that he’ll find his way on to the roster later in the second half, despite what the team says in public.


In this edition of the MetsBlog Q&ACast, presented by Verizon, Viola talked about Syndergaard, as well as LHP prospect Steven Matz, RHP prospect Rafael Montero, how he’d help Zack Wheeler, and his recovery from heart surgery earlier this year:




59 comments
Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

Terry has zero say in whether Syndergaard comes up. Not his call. Its up to Sandy and the front office

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

I fear that Thor is pulling a Mike Bordick--playing himself OFF a guaranteed roster spot. He's had a couple of bad breaks this season but also seems to have taken a step or two backwards. Or maybe he's just bored in Vegas. Would still like to see him up here, even if just for a brief look.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

I don't c it.  Up until his last start he was getting lit up.  He has 70 innings left and they will be used to sort him out in Vegas.  No way do u c him up this year.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Speaking of who we will see in the second half, when will we see Conforto with the Cyclones?

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Yes. He'll be our 10th starter but will be on a pitch count of about 25. "Nanny" Collins doesn't want to hurt his arm.

J Merritt
J Merritt

Montero and Gee/Colon for Rios/G. Beckham + PTBN. This isn't rocket science, guys

J Merritt
J Merritt

And oh yeah, trading him is insanity. This guy has generational talent for which patience will be rewarded. He's only, what, 21 for Christ's sake!!

J Merritt
J Merritt

I wouldn't trust Syndergaard's numbers in Vegas, either. He's a fastball pitcher in a curveball league... As long as he's showing the ability to bounce back, which he has at times, I think he's earned at least a look if the race heats up. 

J Merritt
J Merritt

I'd say Gee and Colon are the most expendable players on this team right now. I personally would sell high on Gee, but that's just me. I think we'll see Syndergaard before too long...

Sal
Sal

Barring injury to someone AND a trade of either Colon, Niese or Gee, I don't see Thor up here before September.


Right now they have Niese, Gee, Colon, Wheeler, deGrom and Dice-K as their backup.   Mejia and Familia could spot start, though that seems unlikely.  


Montero was on the DL but had his first rehab start a few days ago - he looked good though it was rain shortened.  He could certainly be called up again later this season since he already had an option used.


I suspect the Mets will use other options to plug in gaps in the rotation before they think about calling Syndegaard up.  If they get to early August and haven't brought him up, there's almost no point in doing so before September.

ponzies86
ponzies86

Does anyone in here know if I can get the SNY channel on my Mobil or Computer device?

Merrill Needham
Merrill Needham

I'm actually thinks that Syndergaard should be traded for a bat. Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Degrom. We don't need him the year or next. Trade him.

Every Metsblog post ever:

"Blah blah blah blah.

That said,

[complete opposite of blah blah blah blah]"

shea
shea

If you believe he might be a piece of the puzzle next year....then why not bring him up this year, on our once again sub-500 team, and let him get his feet wet. 


If he is ready or isnt ready....there's really only one way to find out. 

mike23
mike23

Yes, we should see him pitch for mets this year. No reason not too, and definitely if the mets trade Colon etc...and have room in rotation at some point. If he and the mets feel he is ready, make it happen, give him a taste of the big leagues so he can prepare for next year. 

mi
mi

get rid of colon save thye 10 mill for a bat and lets see what we have...in no way will geting his feet wet in the bigs this year be detrimental , whats the sense of waiting until next year when we might actually have a shott o win

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Thor is not needed this year with this group. The only reason he would be brought up this year is if the Mets take a dump in the standings and the Wilponzies try to put fanny's in the empty seats.

kingman76
kingman76

Looking forward to seeing him this year because that will all but ensure he opens next season in the Mets rotation.

11gilkey
11gilkey

The kid is 21.  No need to rush him.  

brrrandooo
brrrandooo

watching him in the future's game, this kid needs to be up here as soon as colon is traded

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

@Steve Finelli You may be right, he got lit up again last night. Hopefully part of this is that he's pitching in Vegas but it doesn't appear that he's ready to bring up to the show. In time i believe he's going to be a stud and should be one of the few untouchables in any trades the Mets make

nagel100
nagel100

@Steve Finelli agree.


he looks like he is going backwards.


true he is young and he throws hard but if the right bat is available and they want him.  goodbye.

skinnykrzyz
skinnykrzyz

rios is on texas and beckham on chicago white sox. how does this trade happen exactly?

jamets
jamets

@J Merritt  Wow, that would be a terrible trade for the Mets.  Mets don't need a 33 year old OFer with 4 HRs on the season.  And what would we even do with Beckham? 

James
James

@J Merritt If you want to sell high on Gee, better have him get 3 good starts in before the Trade Deadline to move him, would be interesting if we could sell Colon + Gee for something substantial to someone desperate at the deadline

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

The way he's pitched in Vegas, I'm not even sure they'd reward him with a September callup at this point.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@shea And when he comes up and struggles like young kids do the people here would be calling him a bust and screaming to get rid of him. 

benmoz
benmoz

Yeah but if we are expecting him to be In The rotation next year, it wouldn't hurt to give him a taste if a big leagues this year especially if we aren't contending by August. It seemed to have worked great for Harvey, Wheeler.

zoddie
zoddie

@brrrandooo What, no Montero? Also, Montero is on the 40-man roster and Thor is not (I think).

Michael Herrington
Michael Herrington

@Eddie_Dean It is not reward but if he is ready to pitch at the ML level. I  think he is learning still, and that is what the minors are for.

jamets
jamets

@Eddie_Dean  If Syndergaard puts together 3 or 4 really good starts, he becomes the top option if a spot opens up.  Otherwise, I think he'll be up in September.

zoddie
zoddie

@Eddie_Dean  He's pitched better than you think.  Pretty good peripherals in a really tough ballpark in a really tough league.


Ask Andrew Brown how it is to hit in Vegas.

jamets
jamets

@Eddie_Dean @Merrill Needham  You're not getting an impact bat like a Stanton or Tulo without giving up Wheeler or Syndergaard. And I wouldn't give up either of those guys for anything less than that.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@benmoz He's ahead of schedule against both those guys though. This is not his "Wheeler in 2013" or "Harvey in 2012" season. This is closer to his Wheeler in 2012 and Harvey in 2011 season. When Wheeler was his age he was still in High-A, and Harvey was still in college.


They've rushed this kid as it is imo, and I think it may be partially to blame for his poor numbers in AAA. Let him finish the year in Vegas, and start there again next year, and then come up after the Super 2 deadline as they did with Harvey and Wheeler.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@zoddie I was surprised to see that you're right, he's not. Wouldn't he have been available in the rule 5 draft last year if that were the case at the time?

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@zoddie @Eddie_Dean I know it's tough to pitch there, but it's hard to justify bringing him up with an ERA over 5.00. Wheeler and Harvey pitched much better there.


Now, they were also much more experienced and ML ready, and I understand that. That's why I'm not suggesting his pitching there is anything to be concerned about regarding his longterm future. I just think he's showing that he needs a little more seasoning. Remember, as tough as it may be to pitch in Vegas, it's still 10x easier than the majors....

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@zoddie @Tarheel11 @shea Or Travis d'Arnaud <200 ABs = Bust

zoddie
zoddie

@Eddie_Dean @zoddie  Thor didn't have enough service time in the minors to be eligible for the rule 5 draft.  Even if he's not promoted soon, he'll be added this winter.

zoddie
zoddie

@Eddie_Dean  <after 228 ABs> "d'Arnaud sucks! TRAID!  PLAWECKI FTW!"

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@zoddie Lol, OK, it was a few more ABs than I remembered. And don't forget Flores. Getting 1 AB a week for 3 weeks proved he's worthless too....