Will the Mets trade Bartolo Colon?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

6:25 am: As of this morning, I still think he’ll be on the Mets come August 1. I can’t say the same about September 1, though. The buzz from the team continues to indicate not much is going on.

My understanding is the Mets let teams know their price for Colon and that was that. I don’t think they are being very aggressive “sellers,” despite a desire to dump Colon’s $11 million in 2015, as well as acquire a young hitter. Similar to how they approached trade talks for Carlos Beltran, RA Dickey, Ike Davis, Daniel Murphy, Marlon Byrd and others, Sandy Alderson let his price be known; and, if a team wants to come up to it, great; if not, so be it.

That said, there are lots of teams interested in acquiring a starting pitcher, and the Giants may be back in play…


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The Giants were said to have interest in trading for Colon before acquiring Jake Peavey from the Red Sox.

However, they may be back in the market for a starting pitcher, now that Matt Cain is due to visit with Dr. James Andrews regarding chronic inflammation in his right elbow (CSN Bay Area, July 29).

Meanwhile, in addition to the Giants, the Yankees, Royals, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Angels, Indians, Pirates, Orioles, Brewers and Mariners are all reportedly looking to acquire a starting pitcher before Thursday, with Jon Lester, David Price, Cliff Lee, Cole HamelsIan Kennedy, AJ Burnett and John Lackey, as well as Colon, all rumored to be available on the trade market.

Interestingly, there are a number of teams willing to pay the bulk of contracts they’d be acquiring, such as the $14 million due to Colon (for the remainder of this year, and next season’s salary) or the $50 or so million due to Lee, but, by doing so, those teams feel they should give up less talent in the deal. However, at that point, a team like the Mets or Phillies may choose to keep their pitcher.

It’s not just about shedding salary for Alderson, it’s about continuing to stockpile young talent. If he can’t do both, I think he’ll simply keep Colon and revisit the market in August or this winter.




84 comments
nym68
nym68

It's nit about shedding salary  with Sandy? This is the Mets we're talking about here....it's ALWAYS about shedding salary. Wow. If we didn't know Matt was in the pocket of the Mets before we sure do now

mets63
mets63

Season over so is 2015,unless they make Wally Mgr..Get rid of Abreu,Both Youngs,Tejada,Langaras,Bring up Kirk Hits more homeruns then all them put together.I know he will strikeout a 100 times or more,but he will hit you 20 homers.Great fielder.Give Flores good shot at SS.bring MDD up and few others and let have some fun

dearleader
dearleader

Hoping Alderson gets traded for a sack of balls.

herblehman
herblehman

Sandy and Co. should only trade Bartolo Colon if someone is desperate and willing to drastically overpay for him. I keep saying it, he's a useful and effective pitcher with a rubber arm, and the Mets are going to need him. He's certainly not pitching like he's 41 years old.  

I wouldn't be surprised if Wilmer Flores or Juan Lagares were traded (Lagares doesn't fit the team's "offensive philosophy" and Chris Young was promised 500 ABs), but I'm not expecting other moves. Unless some team really wants to give us the store, I'm pretty certain Colon will still be a Met this time Friday.  

Kevin John
Kevin John

I think Terry needs to go. Last night was just frustrating.

BadContract
BadContract

I think the beat down that Alderson has given the fans is finally starting to take effect. We are complaining about a bloated $11 million contract? for a pitcher that is going to give you @15 wins a season? I don't think that is to much.

I wouldn't trade Colon unless it would mean that we could sign or trade for someone (Tulo, Tomas the Cuban, etc.) It also shows that we are sellers, the below-average, nothing-special-really team just like the past 6 years. Time to get over the selling.

Ricky Gurbal
Ricky Gurbal

Trade colon for a power hitting prospect.... end of story move on

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Fellow Gms..''Billy Beane does more with less than any GM in baseball''.

skaye19
skaye19

The Mets should trade Colon for what they can get and use his and C Young's money to sign Melky Cabrera and Asdrubal Cabrera as free agents and keep our young pitchers.  It makes no sense to trade the pitchers for players that we also have to pay big money too.  If you are going to have to pay big money at least keep the young pitching and see what happens.

rico
rico

So Matt, what you ate saying for the 100th time this week is: according to rumors and opinions seen on other blogs, the mets may trade bartolo, then again maybe the won't. Something else may or may not happen but we are not sure what that is.

Father Dooley
Father Dooley

No one should give Sandy a pass here, NO ONE.  He has not won ANYTHING yet with this ballclub.  He has a chance, RIGHT NOW, to improve this team via a trade.

Either put up or shut up Sandy!

1harris1
1harris1

I've never believed they were in serious play for Tulo because of his contract. Whether they're wise or not to be unwilling to take on that salary, if you can't eat CY's money, you're not adding a guy due 100 plus million over five years.

Anthony Joseph
Anthony Joseph

Enough with this story, if they do they do, if they dont they dont. How many times do we have to see stories on the same subject?

xplr
xplr

Are the Mets ever going to increase payroll?

xplr
xplr

They are crazy if they don't. This team is playing better, but they would have to make a Tampa Bay like run to seriously contend this year. Considering the number of potential starters for next year and Colon's $11MM salary, how can you not trade him now to a contender? I believe if they wait till the off season his market value will be extremely low.  


Sell now!

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Alderson will have just as much trouble dumping Colon's 11 mill. this winter. No one is going to pay that for a guy that's 42 next year. This will be part of Alderson's speel to us this winter about having to wait for the 11 mill to come off the books before he can have the flexibility to get a bat. Does any of this sound familiar? SMH

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@metzsuc  I agree. You'd have to give up a ton of prospects plus pay an enormous salary on top of that. He'd obviously be a great addition, but I don't think he's worth it.

herblehman
herblehman

@metzsuc Agree totally. A player that's hurt so often won't be of much use to us.

If anything, the Rockies will trade Carlos Gonzalez, who is literally worse than Chris Young when taken out of Coors Field. I looked it up. (CarGo does have more home runs than Young on the road.)

fourwedges
fourwedges

@herblehman I don't think they will trade Lagares because of his ++defense and their focus on pitching.  He seems to hit well enough (.270).

@Kevin John we need to win the serriezzzzss ~ Terry Collins


When someone makes a quote like that, time to go.

@BadContract I'm just tired of being that below-average, nothing-special-really team. If they sell Bartolo, it shows they are just that like the last 5-6 years. That's the real reason why I want Tulo, Castro, and/or Tomas (The Cuban Corner Outfielder). To make a move saying we're over being that team.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Albert E Lewis Maybe this year will be different, but Billy Beane's teams have been consistent underachievers in the post season.  The baseball hierarchy loves him because he advances the meme that you can win with a low payroll.  His zero world championships speak volumes to the contrary.  

Max Denby
Max Denby

Sandy would prolly say, well we got a top end starter on a one year deal, which would have been impossible. Still not a good enough reason.

@skaye19 11 million dollars is not going to sign Melky Cabrera. Go for the Cuban guy Tomas and trade a couple pitchers for Tulo or Castro!

@sandybgone I've been trying to say this everyone who thinks that we shouldn't trade for Tulo and just try to grow prospects and hope for the best.

BronsonSNY
BronsonSNY

@Christopher Hall When hasn't it not been about winning? Because a GM is actually is taking the precious measures to develop a team, it's not about winning?

@Father Dooley Are you suggesting that Sandy should kill himself?


I agree with your point though.


#METSTHETEAM4TULO

buckets
buckets

The team is below .500, thus you might want to temper yourself a bit, father. There is no urgency here.

rico
rico

Tulo is on the DL with a hip injury. Hip injuries are pretty serious, especially for the player who is supposed to be the most lithe fielder on the squad. He also has a colossal contract and is on the backside of his playing career. Remind me why emptying the farm for this guy (who can't play) is such a wonderful idea? Because he WAS a star? I go for the cubs Castro over Tulo any day

xplr
xplr

@1harris1 I'll believe we are taking on a contract that will significantly increase payroll when I see it. So far, all I've seen in Sandy's regime is payoll cuts and lots of losses.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Wayno  In my opinion, he shouldn't be trading prospects for rental players right now. The Mets are certainly playing better, but I don't consider them to be in a playoff race. If this team gets over.500 and gets closer,  he can still make a trade after the deadline if it makes sense.

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

@xplr A's best record in baseball with a very low payroll. Payroll does not equal wins. Talent equals wins.

Billy Suede
Billy Suede

@xplr where are you seeing that they aren't? why don't you actually wait and see what plays out in real life instead of getting yourself all lathered up over rumor-mongering.  if a team is willing to pay the price, they acquire the player. not to mention, there is still the waiver trade deadline. relax. 

1harris1
1harris1

I disagree. Colon at 11 mil. for one year will probably look a lot more appealing to teams looking for pitching than what some of these pitchers on the free agent market will be looking for. And there's no reason to believe that Colon won't be an effective pitcher next season.

Scott Miller
Scott Miller

He's going to wait and just put colon on waivers so as not to pay the salary for next yr. Of course, then we won't get anything back for him.

If the mets inability to get a tulo/gomez/stanton type player is strictly financial, with the payroll as it currently is, the wilpons are unfit to continue owning a new york franchise. Simple as that.

Higher payroll doesn't always equal success, obviously, but the ability to improve a team so tremendously (and one that in my opinion is close to competing) with just one major acquisition needs to always be an available option.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Bob Burket  I don't think that's true at all. Last year a number of teams were interested in Colon, but didn't want to give him the 2nd year at his age. If a team trades for him this winter, they're essentially getting him on a one year deal. He's done nothing at age 41 to hurt his value.

herblehman
herblehman

@fourwedges @herblehman It would be a terrible move, one I certainly don't want to see (again, unless someone overpays). But just a gut feeling based on no concrete facts.

shinjoooo
shinjoooo

His teams may not win championships but they are consistently in the playoffs. I'd take that over the garbage we see here anyday.

fourwedges
fourwedges

@sandybgone Gee, Montero, Murphy, Flores, and Plawecki . those are the guys I am willing to trade.  Keep our other current pitching  starters and Thor and Matz (because he's a Lefty).

skaye19
skaye19

@sandybgone You don't have to do anything.   If I were to trade any of the pitchers it would be Niese.  The guy gets hurt too much and is too up and down.   But like I said I would hold onto the young arms and not trade them for huge contract 30+ year old players who go on the DL every year.  Our one advantage is young pitching if we trade 2 of the chips for a 30 year old hitter that would be a huge mistake.   Get Melky for 3 years and overpay who cares.  Keep the young pitching and sooner or later we will have a team come to us to overpay instead of the other way around.  We should not be giving 2 of these pitchers away in any trade period.

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

Not was, still is a star and possibly a top 3 player in baseball up until the injury. Hell also most likely be a top player for the next 3-4 years as hell still technically be I'm his prime. Its the rest of the contract that I'm worried about since he's signed till 2021. As he ages the injuries will start to become more common and serious which is why I wouldn't make the trade. But don't act like this guy isn't a star because he definitely is

1harris1
1harris1

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just think that the guy's contract was an insurmountable obstacle for the Wilpons from the start, regardless of how healthy Tulo is. Folks can argue the pros and cons of Tulo all day, but it's never happening with this ownership.

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

Please don't ever compare the A's and Mets ever again. The A's are run by a genius, and in case you forgot Beane just traded the top SS prospect in baseball for 2 quality MAJOR LEAGUE pitchers to help his team for the playoffs. What has Sandy done that's anywhere near Beanes level? Absolutely nothing

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Mike Herrington @xplr You will not win consistently over time with this philosophy.  Once players win they expect to be  paid.  In the rare case where a low payroll team wins a championship, the core is soon dismantled.  

xplr
xplr

@Mike Herrington @xplr That's great. That's like pointing to the CEO who started in the mailroom and saying, "This is where you can be". Of course, that ignores the inconvenient fact that the A's havn't won anything yet and that Sandy Alderson is no Billy Beane.

Father Dooley
Father Dooley

@Mike Herrington @xplr Well the Mets need more talent, especially at the PLATE.

mets74
mets74

@herblehman @fourwedges CY was never promised a certain amount of AB's. The only thing that he was told was that he would get playing time.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Bob Burket @Pete Brilvitch  I honestly think we are a big bat in LF and a SS away from being a legit team next year. Trading Colon will free up 11 million to help with those acquisitions. Any prospect we get will help the depth in the system even if it's a low level prospect - but I don't think it would negatively affect anything for next year.