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What will be the Mets everyday outfield?

The Mets promised Chris Young a certain level of playing time this season, Sandy Alderson said at Citi Field on Tuesday.

Curtis Granderson will obviously be in the everyday lineup, Alderson said, noting that Eric Young Jr. and Juan Lagares will also see time in the outfield, as well.

“We’ve got some things that we need to sort through, but right now we’re happy with those four and presumably we’ll have a fifth outfielder at some point and be able to work all of them in,” Alderson added (Collier, Dec. 18). “It’s a nice dilemma to have given where we were last year with the no-name outfield.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Young Jr. might the closest player — from a traditional, speed stand point — to a leadoff that this team has. So, he may have a leg up on Lagares, in this regard. Of course, Lagares is a far superior defensive outfielder and Young Jr.’s OBP leaves a lot to be desired. It may depend on who the Mets are facing and who Terry Collins has on the mound that day.

I assume Granderson will play left field, which means Young will mostly play right field, while Young and Lagares will platoon in center. Unless, of course, the Mets trade Ike Davis, put Lucas Duda in Triple-A, shift Murphy back to first and let Young Jr. play at second. Plus, how does a possible fifth outfielder factor in?

There are roughly 60 days or so until pitchers and catchers, in case you were wondering…




280 comments
rstpigeon
rstpigeon

Lagares should not split time with anyone and no one should have promised anything to Chris Young. EYJ is no leadoff hitter. The Mets don't have one. they still have no cleanup hitter, either, and no solid solution at 1B.


I look at this team and I still don't see a lineup that can last the season and play .500 baseball, let alone be competitive. Like any fan, I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see genius at work building this team and, of course, there's no money to just buy the right players. Trades are becoming tougher, FA's are declining in quality as their prices go up - you need to develop your own, that's what it's been looking like over the past several years.


So, the Mets are still looking to the minors and the guys like Nimmo and Cecchini that don't appear to be getting anywhere for their future offense. Not looking good.

jreyesfan7
jreyesfan7

Matt, I'm very surprised about what you said in Lagares not being the starting CF. It will be a disgrace if EY got the starting job. EY is the perfect 4th outfielder. Brings speed for late innings but that's it. I hate the fact that some here fall in love with players like these. Lagares or tejada might fall in the leadoff spot. Tejada, yes has regressed a lot since his freak quad injury, but he is 24. He has played well before. If he comes into shape and matures he will contribute. He has over .280 twice in significant playing time. Lagares killed the LIDOM before he got injured. Give the young guys a chance!

Vin Santiago
Vin Santiago

If Davis shows you something in spring training then you can always send Duda down, EY and Lagares in center.  The team is not going to be great but I think its a better team without Duda.  You can't have Murphy at first base because he loses all of his value, Murphy as a second baseman is in the top 10 in the national league as a first baseman he's not even in the top 20.  

Andi
Andi

Is there anyone down in the farm that can be the 5th?


There is roughly 60 days till my 50th bday, in case you were wondering....  :)

Mets6986
Mets6986

By all accounts, it seems Choo might not be able to get the 7 years Boras was seeking. The Yankees, Mariners, Tigers and Astros are all dropping like flies as suitors. The Rangers will now turn to Tanaka and Choo might only be able to procure 5 years.


Do we make an offer? Say 5 years, $100M? Sure sounds a whole lot better than 7 for $140M. 


If we get him, put Chris Young in CF, trade Murphy (for salary relief) and play Eric Young at 2B. We knock 4 (FOUR) birds with 1 stone (getting Choo):


1. We have a VERY potent OF with Granderson, C. Young and Choo (LF - CF - RF) instead of Grandy - Lagares - C. Young


2. We have a lead-off hitter in E. Young at 2B and competitive top of the order. Choo can hit behind him and Wright, behind him.

Without Choo, our lineup would look something along the lines of 1. Lagares, 2. Dude (according to TC?), 3. Wright.


3. We have a deepened bench with Lagares serving as late-inning defensive replacement and 4th OF.


4. Most importantly, we get a RIDICULOUS on-base machine in the 2-hole hitting in front of David. Choo had a .423 OBP.

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

For me EYJ still has potential, but I'm not sure if we should be trying to harness that at the MLB level. Looking at his full career in pro-ball there are 2 of Eric Young Jr. The first EYJ had a good to excellent OBP for most of his minor league career, then came his time in the major leagues. With the exception of 425 consecutive plate appearances spread between 2011 and 2012 his OBP has been a problem at this level. Purely a guess, but I'm curious if this is what intrigued the Mets about him. His .318 OBP last year in his time with the Mets was an improvement over the .290 he had in the same season (albeit for only 180 PA) with the Rockies, but .318 still isn't good (although it was just 1 point off of Daniel Murphy's OBP last year). Either EYJ can't handle the level of pitching in the majors, ML pitchers figured out how to pitch to him and the book on him is out, or he lost his way somewhere and a system that emphasizes patience might be able to put him back on the path he was on. Whatever the true reason for the 2 EYJs, I'm not ready to fully give up on his potential, but that clock is ticking.    

billa
billa

Again, no net improvement of power in the outfield.

One big bat in April 2013 and one now.

mojorisin
mojorisin

well Rickey Henderson was a good leadoff hitter, and he was fast ... oh wait, he had a .401 career OBP

steve333
steve333

Tired of this platoon crap.

Just pick a line-up and stick with it for more than 10 minutes

Daniel Saviuk
Daniel Saviuk

Matt: I love reading your blogs. You are so insightful. As a die-hard Mets' fan, I certainly appreciate all the information you give.


Daniel Saviuk
Daniel Saviuk

I love that scenario. Murphy at 1B, E.Y. at 2nd.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Promised Young time in the outfield? Oh? He wouldn't have come here at $7.5M if he didn't?  BTW, talking about EY Young, Mets Today flagged that Colin McHugh is available. You know, if the Mets need AAA depth or something.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

"Young will mostly play right field, while Young and Lagares will platoon in center"

To forestall confusion, let's make it a rule to say "EY" and "Young."  "Young Jr." doesn't quite do it either. Suggests his dad is still playing.  

Phil Mancini
Phil Mancini

Anyway you cut it an extremely weak outfield. 

mets4lyfe
mets4lyfe

EYJ should not see significant playing time in 2014. He posted a .318 OBP with the Mets while getting to play essentially everyday.

Herb Goldstein
Herb Goldstein

IMO the starting outfield is E Young (LF) - C Young (CF) - Granderson (RF) if Murphy is still with the team in spring training. If Murphy is traded, it may come down to whether Lagares or Flores has a great spring,

mustang66
mustang66

CJM, I think I'm just getting desperate. How did the Mets expect to sell usTejada when all last year they did nothing but then denigrate him. I wanted forPeraltabut that kind of money is reserved for the other team in town. I don't see any real improvement in this team yet unless the young guys starting hittin a lot better. Shortstop the caliber of Drew would go a long way toward helping us compete for the second wild card. Even is it just keeps our interest alive until September

mustang66
mustang66

the Rockies just traded the shortstop Herrera to Boston for a journeyman reliever. He hit 292 last year and has some speed. Wake up sandy, wake up

mustang66
mustang66

I've got a crazy idea for a leadoff hitter. How about these cheapskates spend a few bucks and get a shortstop who can hIt run and field. I guess I have to free up a few dollars. They can sell some of the empty seats 2 collectors and sell them through Steiner Sports. I'm not dropping my money unless they get a quality shortstop.

Bob Giacalone
Bob Giacalone

I think you should go through all the endless possibilities. Again and again. Then write it all over and pretend you are saying something new.

dexx
dexx

Granderson (LF) EY2 (CF) C. Young (RF) Lagares defensive replacement every game for Murphy or Duda late with EY2 moving to 2B.  This will also allow 33 year old Granderson to get 1 day off/week against at tough LHP. Lagares will get plenty of playing time as he will essentially be backing up all 3 OF spots & 2B. Collins hates playing youngers players anyway.

Eamonn Scollan
Eamonn Scollan

Don't want to be harsh but you are stupid if you have EY anywhere near centerfield.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@billaWho was the Big bat April 2013... Please don't' say Byrd, he barely sniffed the OD Roster and almost retired.


Outfield has been Tremendously Upgraded, while offensive production overall might be minimal it will be hard to be worse then the dozen guys they played minus Byrd.

The Feels band
The Feels band

@steve333 Well, hey, Platoons make total sense sometimes... though Duda ans Satin? UGH, no, please. 

Jason Luft
Jason Luft

Why? I'd rather the Mets win more games.

mojorisin
mojorisin

dude, that is hilarious... good one

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

@Daniel Saviuk Murphy finally settled in last year and had a great season...so lets move his position again and make sure he has to start over again. No thanks.

foophilly
foophilly

Actually he was claimed by the Astros yesterday.

Joe Valenti
Joe Valenti

@Herb Goldstein You have to go with Lagares on Opening Day. Between CY and Grandy you are going to have 300+ Ks and a .220 average. EY Jr is going to hit .260 with a sub .320 OBP and no power. The only hope (and I say hope because it isn't much more than that) for production out of the OF is Lagares. Let him play until he proves he can't. There's no reason to block prospects when your alternatives at CF are Chris Young and EY Jr

CJM
CJM

@mustang66What? He's a 29 year old backup infielder. Career .658 OPS. Speed? 14 career SB and 10 career CS. Mets need a starting shortstop. They already have a crappy backup. Seriously, Jonathan Herrera is no better than Tejada, and at least Tejada's young.

Herb Goldstein
Herb Goldstein

@mustang66 another nonsensical comment from another disgruntled "fan". They overspend with Young's $7.25 MM and Granderson's 4/$60 MM. Even Colon's contract was generous. And still you call them cheapskates. The off season still has plenty of dealing time left. I've got a crazy idea. How about taking a more realistic view of what has already been done, and waiting to see what they do about a shortstop. You do know, by the way, that it takes at least 2 teams to make a trade.

sell
sell

Cerrone's metsblog is a joke of recycled garbage. Try writing something original. In fact, just take a composition course, for starters.

sell
sell

Not a single chance Eric young is our opening day cf.

billa
billa

Tremendous???? Mets SLG was 29th out of 30 teams!!

For HR, they were 25th out of 30teams!!  How have they improved those stats?

Byrd had 21 HRs.  Sadly for the Mets that's a BIG BAT.  They may have replaced his bat but should still will be

near the NL stat bottom in runs scored and total bases!!

The outfield is still power weak!!

Joe Valenti
Joe Valenti

@Mark Kelly @billa Really? I bet the OF average is lower than it was last season between Granderson, Young, and Lagares. $25M is a lot to spend on .220 

Joe Valenti
Joe Valenti

@Jason Luft I wouldn't. If you aren't going to make the playoffs then you might as well be bad enough to have a protected 1st rounder

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@foophillyThanks. Sounds like he might be starting again soon though he might be moved along at some point too.

Joe Valenti
Joe Valenti

@CJM @mustang66 Why not bring in some competition. If nothing else, it gives Tejada incentive to actually work a little bit harder. I say they sign Clint Barmes for that exact reason

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@CJM@mustang66But new names are better than old names... DUH!!! 

Plus the mets are littered with Journeyman Relievers... Heck i wish the mets could trade their massive depth of journeymen MI's and CI's for Journeymen RP's. At least the RP's might stick. 



sell
sell

No. He won't. He was barely average in left.