Ike Davis had a rough afternoon, going 0-for-5 with four strikeouts on Opening Day.

Where things stand with trading Ike Davis

The Mets offered 1B Ike Davis to the Orioles for LHP prospect Eduardo Rodriguez, but Baltimore declined (Encina, Dec. 31).

In talks for Davis, the Mets have been asking for top young pitching, such as Rodriguez, Pirates RHP Nick Kingham (Perrotto, Dec. 17), and Brewers RHP Tyler Thornburg (McCalvy, Dec. 1).

The Orioles and Brewers remain interested in Davis (Puma, Dec. 27). The Pirates had shown interest, but have since acquired 1B Chris McGuiness from the Rangers for RHP Miles Mikolas.

In early December, it was reported that the Brewers intended to move quickly to get a first baseman (Haudricourt, Dec. 12), but they have still not made an acquisition to fill that need.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The Mets clearly want a pitching prospect. From what I can gather, teams only seem willing to part with lower-tier, Double-A pitching. So, if I had to guess, I’d say the Brewers are still the best fit for Ike, but Milwaukee is probably waiting to see how the market ultimately settles. They’ll then get a final read on Sandy Alderson’s asking price, match that up with what Michael Young is looking for as a free agent (assuming he’s still available) and then make a decision.

In the meantime, the Mets can wait and keep talking with the Orioles. There is no rush. They can always bring Ike to camp, see what’s what and either keep him, deal him before the start of the season or cut him at the tune of $600,000, according to ESPN’s Buster Olney.

155 comments
rubiconx0
rubiconx0

if Ike starts off badly which there is a good chance he will, with all the bad publicity and discussion on this site, the boos will start and not stop. Ike will be the center of attention in a very bad way and bring the energy of this whole team down. That is the main reason he has to be off this roster before the stat of the regular season!

Jav Nunez
Jav Nunez

I would honestly just keep him at this point. Maybe widd chris young curtis granderson in the lineup some pressure might come off lets not forget he did hit 30 hrs a year ago n widd 90 rbi i think he just needs the game to come To him n work on his weakness

Kevin A Garney
Kevin A Garney

Let's just trade him for Fernando Martinez and teach him to play first base like we taught Duda to play right field! Or we could start him at cleanup with Granderson batting 5 th , then he might see some decent pitches.

Steven Bergel
Steven Bergel

The Met payroll is ridiculously low. The Wilpons are horrible owners. Met fans should boycott everything Mets until they sell !!

NJstixx
NJstixx

@SNYtv Not a Jet fan...worst thing that could have happened to the org. Gino isn't a starter and Rex isn't a head coach...

nthmetsfan
nthmetsfan

I would not trade him for the sake of trading him.  If they can only get a low prospect, they are better off keeping him, getting some other hitting coach to work with him, and see if he can get Ike turned around.  They can always release him if he doesn't improve.  They need a LH power bat, and in spite of him being so awful, at least there was a glimpse of a good ball player at one time.

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

You know, one scenario that's not talked about and should be is if the Mets trade Ike to the brewers or sombody for a RP and the Mets intend to go with Tejada at SS and this Duda/Satin platoon at 1b, why not take that 8 to 10 million you would spend on Drew or Morales and sign another Sp like Arroyo, why do we have to have a maybe in the 5th spot? Sign Arroyo to a 2 yr deal for 8-10 mil, have a really strong rotation of Wheeler, Neise, Gee, Colon and Arroyo, you give up no draft pick for Arroyo, you let Syndergard and Montero dominate the whole year in triple A, when the off-season comes and harbey comin back you are in a tremendous position of strength in trade talks with team for offense because of the pitching depth we have.

Jimmy Gayron
Jimmy Gayron

I know this is off-topic, but can I ask a question about the SS situation? Yesterday, a smart fan on here (thanks for the info, Wexler) explained to me that Seattle would have to be "blown away" by a deal, to trade SS Brad Miller. I am not saying trade Thor or Wheeler, that's plain crazy. But what about offering something really good (DeGrom or Montero and Gee)?

I'm all for signing Drew until Cecchini makes it to the bigs, as it appears most fans here are. BUT, if we get "Michael Bourn'ed" again, why not try to pull this off?

Brad Miller is considered one of the top ten shortstop prospects in the league, and he did well playing for a ML team (it's not just "projections"). Check out his numbers, they are pretty damn good. Also, he can be controlled until 2019. So, you are looking at a potential marquee shortstop leading off for your team, possibly until 2019! Looking back, what prospects would you have traded to acquire Jose Reyes at the start of his career?

I know everyone is going to say "pitching wins championships", and I couldn't agree more. My question is this. If you wouldn't trade pitching prospects to get a player like this, then when do you ever? And why the hell not? Please enlighten me, for I am really confused by this.

metsrule
metsrule

Ike Davis should not be on this roster next year, he needs a change of scenery. Just look at what Pagan did after he left and Ike has a lot more potential than Pagan.

queva
queva

If you're Ike Davis, you have to feel so unloved--he's a bum!

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

I think eventually the way this plays out I think ike gets traded to the Brewers for that relief pitcher Kotzler and then we end up signing Kendra Morales and duda is on the bench or goes to the minors.

WillisReid
WillisReid

There is no way Davis is a Met by April 1.  Sandy is asking for a lot because he has nothing to lose, he's not going to end up stuck with Davis on the roster all year.  Worst case he cuts him late in ST after all the other teams have found ways to fill their 1B void and Ike gets picked iup by some random team on a minor league deal for depth.  Probably won't get the opportunity to do much at all at the big league level in 2014, and the Mets don't have to worry about the backlash of him having instant success elsewhere.


I think the Mets will be a better ML team before Ike is an above replacement level player, and that is really all that matters from a perception standpoint.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

This is easy keep him and use him alot hope his value goes up there will be suitors for him but he needs to increase his trade value. 

MFan28
MFan28

Mets are crazy to just hope another team is foolish enough to give them a top pitching prospect for Ike..he just can`t hit. Get an average pitching prospect or a decent all-around bench player. Stop hoping to get a Top Prospect. He`s had 1 good 1/2 half season in 4 years...the other 3 1/2 have been horrible...sprained ankle-out for 4 months?..Arizona Fever?..Oblique?..etc And worst of all, he can`t hit. Throw him a curve in the dirt..swing and miss. High fastball..miss it by a foot. Rather see him hit 25 hrs for Milw. than hit .210 for the Mets. Let him go already. Not watching if he is on 1B & batting 4 or 5! 

metsrule
metsrule

Honestly, I think Ike should be traded for bullpen arms considering we have none

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

You're asking for pitching prospects - no one wants to give those up for a player destined to be overpaid through arbitration. Add to that, the Mets reluctance to send down a young, unproven player with options when he was clearly lost at sea and kept talking about his ego and the need to have it stroked and you've displayed to the world a potentially overpaid clubhouse cancer. Maybe that isn't the truth but the Mets have not been good at how they talk about their own (put Tejada in that box), how they cultivate players and how they publicly deal with ego issues. Now, shake that all up with the historic inability to produce a power bat or high-quality position players and you don't have a cocktail anyone wants to swallow.


Ike's need to succeed in 2013 was crucial from many angles - baseball, business, personal - and failed on every level. It doesn't mean he can't succeed in 2014 but it requires someone to take a chance on him as an athlete, and investment, and a solid person with a good attitude. In this case, 1 or 2 out of 3 won't cut it.

Hank Lee
Hank Lee

This is what happens when you try to trade someone when their value is at its lowest. Mets often hang on too long. Trading him after his 30 HR season would have been ideal.

How do you know when to make the move? Competent scouts. ("I know Ike hit 30 this year boss, but he has huge holes in his swing that are about to be exploited")

At this point they should let him be the starting 1B an hope he comes out hot. If not, release him. If so, trade him. Obviously they don't believe in him so there is no point keeping him even if he starts well.

hankincolo
hankincolo

BTW, if anyone is annoyed by the constant Ike updates, just think about what it's going to be like when ST rolls around and Ike shows up in Mets camp. 

hankincolo
hankincolo

Reality says, no one wants to trade their young pitching. Not a single team will do it.  So, regardless of whether my fellow Mets fans like it, Ike will be wearing a Mets cap in ST. At which point, if I'm management, you say to Ike, Lucas and Wilmer, let the competition begin! Hit or be gone.

Jonathan Calaso
Jonathan Calaso

Look at mike trouts first 200 abs before you say Flores can't hit mlb pitching

dave42
dave42

What do you all make of Flores playing mostly 1B in winter ball?  Seems to me like perhaps the Mets are thinking of him as option 1 or at least option 2 for 1B this year, with perhaps a Duda/Satin platoon as the back-up plan.  If Flores can win the job in Spring Training, perhaps that would make Duda this year's Mike Baxter - backup 1B and corner OF.

metsrule
metsrule

Any chance Reyes comes back?!

Salman Ali
Salman Ali

I've never seen so much detailed information before regarding a player on the roster the team is trying, and failing, to trade.


Whatever you think of Ike, it's a bit strange to get daily updates on who exactly other teams won't give the Mets for the guy.  Why would the FO continue to leak this stuff?

MMIAA
MMIAA

I was thinking of this last night. So basically this is a 600k gamble. You keep Ike until the last minute to see if you can get someone if not you cut him. Kind of a waste of time but appears to be the game SA plays.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

this is not an instructional league, at this point of his career he should know what he's doing and what is expected of a big league first baseman!

dexx
dexx

@Jimmy Gayron Would you rather take a chance on Miller, and give up Montero & Gee, or sign Drew, who is already good, and give up an unknown 3rd rounder?

WillisReid
WillisReid

There is no way the Mets sign a 1B.  I'm not sure they sign a SS and they don't have 4 other options to play it.

WillisReid
WillisReid

@Ron Davis They just spent for the first offseason in 4 years.  They are trying to win games and bring people back to Citi.  Playing a guy who has been absolutely terrible for about 75% of the last two seasons to build his value runs counter to pretty much everything they've set out to do this winter.

Jimmy Gayron
Jimmy Gayron

Are you Ike Davis' Dad? Nice try Mr. Davis.

MetsOregon
MetsOregon

@MFan28I mostly agree; Ike has to go. But to be fair, did have a decent 2010 season.

dexx
dexx

@rstpigeon He has a terrible attitude.  How could you get that confused?

RS
RS

@hankincolo Teams don't LIKE to trade young pitching, but if they get desperate enough it happens.  See wheeler & Thor.  I agree Ik's a tough sell, but I also don't see much point in bringing back a garbage prospect for him either.

WillisReid
WillisReid

@hankincolo I bet he get cut ends up on someones AAA roster as depth and ends up some other teams Andrew Brown.

WillisReid
WillisReid

@dave42 I think he would put up similar offensive number to Murphy and I hate the idea of Murphy's bat at 1B.  

Erin II
Erin II

@dave42 I don`t even want Duda`s cleats touching outfield grass if he accidentally rounds a base too wide.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Almost none. I am a huge Reyes fan, but his contract is horribly back loaded. He will make 16 mil in 2014 (not bad), the next 3 years he gets 22 mil per.

dexx
dexx

@Salman Ali To try and get teams to believe there are other teams interested.

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

@Salman Ali 

It's nonsense drivel to make fans try to believe that they are still actively working to do something to improve the team.

Cerrone has cited Braun for Ike. Kingham for Ike. These are idiotic fantasies.

Alderson had some money to spend, and really, really rolled the dice on older and/or declining players in Colon, Granderson, and Young. That was the budget. Maybe, if they get rid of Ike they might be able to afford Drew if his price really goes down, but overall, we are probably looking at the 2014 Mets right now for the most part.

 

Gland1
Gland1

@Salman Ali Except it's not really detailed information.  It's the same info/links over and over.  Nothing new is really happening but it makes it seem they are working really hard to trade him because they keep posting about it.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

He is trying to get a decent arm for Ike. He has done a nice job building up the pitching depth in this organization. I don't think it is a waste of time. Why cut Ike before he has too?

dexx
dexx

@MetsOregon@MFan28 Actually, you're right.  2010 was the only season he had starter level WAR.  I can't believe people reference his 2012 season as a reason to keep him.  Yes, he hit 32 HRs, but he was awful in every other meaningful statistic, and just as bad on defense.  1.1 WAR in 2012, -0.2 in 2013

dave42
dave42

@WillisReid@dave42 I hear you - though Murphy was probably our second best returning hitter from 2013 and two of him would be an improvement over what we had last year at 1B.  I'm intrigued to see what Flores can be.  He's still just a kid.  But they better have a good back-up plan.

sylow59
sylow59

I think it's more like MB keeps posting the same things to make it seem like they're working hard.

dexx
dexx

@anthony G. Decesare Duda had a higher offensive value according to fangraphs than Morales did last season in 300 fewer plate appearances.  So your suggestion would literally make us worse.

dexx
dexx

@hankincolo@RS He won't be on the team to trade midseason.  He will be moved before spring training.  There is no chance he opens 2014 with the Mets.

Gland1
Gland1

@sylow59 and to make it look like he is hard at work gathering new info