What’s on Tap: Niese’s 2nd start, Ike and Duda in lineup

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The Mets and Angels continue their three-game series in Los Angeles on Saturday when Jon Niese takes on Jared Weaver at 9:05 pm ET.

Niese will be making his second start of the season, after spending time on the disabled list. Terry Collins said he be allowed to throw up to 105 pitches during the game.

Ike Davis and Lucas Duda are both expected to be in the starting lineup, with one starting at first base and the other at DH.




53 comments
cleonsvan
cleonsvan

Granderson needs to be dropped in the line-up and platooned when C.Young gets back. I know it's early, but this struggle to make contact has been going on since last year.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

This is a very bad match up for Niese. I hope he's up to the task.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

I'm curious...and this is directed to you..


What is with all this bitching and moaning about stuff that NOTHING can be done about now?  No they didn't sign Jose Abreu.  He's signed with the White Sox.  What does coming on here and constantly bitching about it actually accomplish?


Ike Davis and Lucas Duda's combined production puts them in the middle of the pack in MLB.  Not great, but not terrible either.  They are here.  They are going to be here.  If Sandy could've traded them in the off, don't you think he would've?  He shopped them to every team except maybe the Yomiuri Giants.   So what are you solving by coming on here and crying about trading them...constantly?


Choo signed with Texas and Chris Young signed here.  Besides the fact that nothing can be done to change either of those facts, the last any of us saw of Young he was batting .320 in ST.  But yet you're all KILLING him for having a quad strain and being K prone.  


This team is not as bad as their first 3 games indicate and they're probably not as good as their last 5.  But supposedly they are YOUR team.  So how about just for a lil while you give the diatribes about how bad the team sucks, a rest for a bit?  


Lastly....if the team sucks, TC sucks, SA sucks, the Wilpons suck (ok i'm with you there), AND Metsblog sucks....what the f@#k are you doing here rooting for this team?

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

our two great first basemen, last night Duda 0-2 2k's  Ike 0-1 they are both something to look forward to watching today! Tejada isnt exactly tearing it up either! Yet, our cheap owners do NOTHING to make this offense any better!! How about a trade or something???/ What a joke, a .500 team at best!

getalife
getalife

Woah, Terry is using Ebonics now...

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

Every team seems like they have that one homegrown power guy, Trout, Harper, Stanton, Freeman... The Mets, Duda? Davis?? Pppffftttt... Where's our Harper or Trout?? Is there anyone close to that kind of player in the farm? I'm honestly asking, is Dom Brown one of those kinds of players? Or are the mets scouts really that bad??? D. Wright and Reyes are the last homegrown position that I could remember that actually made an impact and that was YEARS ago.

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

Signing Young  and Grandy and letting Byrd man walk.  Nice job Sandy!  Marlon crushing it so far this year.

mets2891
mets2891

Mets should've signed Jose Abreu all along.  With an $87 million payroll and how god awful this team has been the past few years, it's a risk that would've been worth taken.  6 years $68 million may end up being a steal.

eric88
eric88

When will this Duda, Ike nonsense end. They can't play and are not tradable. They have no value. It is year 3 and the Mets still haven't decided who sucks less and should start. They can't hit, period, and that will never change.

mets2891
mets2891

There's no logical reason for Ike not to play first base tonight.  He's the much better defensive player and it's further evidence that he should've been given the job all along.

nolrog
nolrog

Ugh. 9:05PM on a Saturday?  What ever happened to day games?

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Problem is that Chris Young hits .200 with a ton of strikeouts, just like the rest of the team. They need batters who can hit for average.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

@C.K. Dexter Haven Because things dont have to be this way, we want a big change, we complain because we care!!! Now do you get it!!!???

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

@c.k. Take it easy bruh, we like bitching cause we care. We know nothing can be done but I know I can't bitch about this to my wife, so I do it here...

DMMP
DMMP

@C.K. Dexter Haven  People want more from the team they watch day in and day out than failure.  People put their time and money towards watching a product that they want to see win... And that's something that hasn't happened in almost a decade now.  People are frustrated. They want change. They want to see whatever needs to happen to put a winning product out there happen.  It's peoples right to complain.  If you accept mediocrity and see this team as being a 95 win playoff team, more power to you.  But most don't... and many think there are steps that can be taken to lead us to that point...Thus they vent and complain and explain their thoughts.  I'll go down with the ship every year until this team becomes amazing again...  Because I do put so much of me into this team that I want so badly to see succeed again. But until then, I think it's mine, and everyone else's right to complain and vent if they'd like... Offer thoughts and suggestions... Opinions... ETC.  

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

I'd be pleasantly surprised if they finish 500

4EverMets
4EverMets

@kefhrny17 I think the Mets don't want to draft players like Harper or Trout 'cause they will cost money in the long run and the Mets just don't want to deal with that or annoy the fans when these players leave for big money. Just my opinion!.

DMMP
DMMP

@kefhrny17  Dom Smith. I believe you mean... And he's likely to be more of a 30-35 HR guy... Which is definitely power.... He's still young so who knows, he could end up having more power or less. He'll still be a fantastic hitter, but he's more of a defense and average guy that has some power.  Which is a GREAT thing to have. He gets comparisons to Adrian Gonzalez pretty regularly. Dustin Lawley is probably our best PURE power hitter in the organization... But power is not everything... Nimmo could develop some more power... Puello definitely has 5 tool potential/ability...    

mattisadrunk
mattisadrunk

@mets2891  He has done all his damage against the Twins slow pitch softball rotation and in physics defying confines of Coors field. The Royals made him look like Ike Davis. Way to keep up that good ol' franchise tradition of one-dimensional evaluations followed by a chorus of unjustifiable I-told-you-sos. The final verdict on his contract will be unknown for a few years so why would you want the team to sign a 1B when there were far more, less certain holes to fill in the lineup? Why commit 6 years to an unknown when you have a real deal 1B prospect in Smith and a potential (yet maddeningly unpredictable) power bat in Davis to keep the position warm until Smith is ready for 2017? Seems a little convoluted in the long run with real potential to compound existing issues.   

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@mets2891  WHY is it a risk that would've been worth taking?  Because he has 4 hrs and 15 RBIs in April?  Lemme ask you guys something, you remember Chris Shelton from a few years ago?  Exactly!  Now imagine being committed to him for 6 years at $11.5mil a year.  Your all so angry at the Wilpons for not spending ANY money that you want them to spend something just to spend....smh

DMMP
DMMP

@mets2891  Many of you likely remember me petitioning the signing of Abreu in the offseason. In fact... I argued it was the TOP move the team should make, and would come back to bite them.  That his contract was going to end up being under market value and a steal.  I know it's early still... But it's beginning to look that way... Mets are a very risk averse organization... And teams in baseball don't go very far without taking some risks sometimes...  We also missed out on Puig, Cespedes, Darvish, list goes on...  players we could have had for relatively UNDER market value who would just have required cash.... That we didn't even pursue.  Imagine having Puig on this team right now? Or Cespedes in the middle of the lineup?  How about Yu Darvish as your Ace, with Syndergaard in the wings, Harvey back next season, and more arms to come amongst the group we already have? (Mejia, Neise, Gee, et al)  - It's pretty amazing to think about... but that's all it is... Coulda woulda shoulda.

lgm86
lgm86

@mets2891  This was Sandy's major mistake.  It's disgusting that we didn't even give him a chance.  It was the equivalent of signing a top-3 AAA 1B prospect.  You just can't find guys who are this talented in free agency anymore.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@mets2891  Don't you remember Cerrone's ( or maybe Baron's not sure) propaganda report basically trying to sway us away from him ?? I certainly do. 

openmind6
openmind6

@mets2891

Will you stand by that statement in 2 months if Ike is batting .190 like last year??

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

Seriously. Theyre both getting at bats.

It's amazingly frustrating how, with what little we have, they still fail to field the best possible team.

nolrog
nolrog

@mets2891 But, but, but, Ike can't be the first baseman.  Because Duda is the starter. . . right?


(note, a dash of sarcasm in the above)

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

It's really really unfortunate that Ike and Duda are the only options... They're both such trash.

hankypanky
hankypanky

How original. Did you stay up all night to present us with this gem?

hankypanky
hankypanky

Day games went out with the Edsel.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@Kevin VanTassell I know, but Chris Young has looked good this spring and he spent the winter with Rod Carew. He is athletic enough and has had enough success where we might catch lightning in a bottle.

DMMP
DMMP

@kefhrny17  I'm with you honestly.  However, and I've said this before... .500 gets you nothing except the ability to say "you finished .500" - A dubious honor in my opinion. - As a team you're either better off tanking for the draft pick, or putting all you've got into being a playoff team.  

russ1975
russ1975

FU hanky spanky. What games have you been watching?

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@hankypanky  How long are people going to defend Terry with snarky comebacks and no leg to stand on ? It seems pretty obvious to most people the guy is just a front office yes man. "TC sucks" is simply a true statement . I challenge you to prove it otherwise. I don't think he was going for some all star gem comment. Just speaking truth, which apparently hurts wittle hankypanky

nolrog
nolrog

@dannym28 Well, that is true.  But I probably will miss this one as well (or at least, I won't watch past the 2nd or 3rd inning.)

4EverMets
4EverMets

@DMMP @kefhrny17 ZERO HOF position players in 50 years tells you all you need to know about the Mets lack of being able to evaluate, draft, and develop talent. They NEVER even get lucky with a player!! I would never care if they signed a free agent if I knew that the farm system was ALWAYS producing very good players. But the Mets, they can't do anything right with this ownership.

mattisadrunk
mattisadrunk

@DMMP @kefhrny17  finishing .500 after years of losing records can mean quite a bit to some people. Ask any pirates fan what kind of relief you feel when you finally get that monkey off your back. A better draft pick will have zero impact for the big club for the next 2-4 years...So unless you intend to immediately trade your higher draft pick and eat the signing bonus (for what though? Teams won't be willing to deal much for an unproven prospect who still has years of development ahead. This isn't the NFL or NBA.) the idea of turning your back on 7 additional wins is just a formula to keep fans away from the ballpark, and perpetuate the perceived lack of initiative that has held the club back. Would you really rather go into 2015 with a protected draft pick after another losing season and expect playoff caliber baseball with a majority of the same players as years previous? Or would you rather the team A) won at least 81 games which would likely have correlated to progress from hitters like TD and JL, as well as treasured minor league depth from trading CY and maybe BC? The 500 team gives me hope for the future. Your plan makes me thankful that management ignores endless temper tantrums from the so called "caring" fans. 

DMMP
DMMP

@kefhrny17  I think Dom Smith was a good pick. I think Nimmo was an overdraft BUT will turn out to be a decent player.  Ceccini RIGHT NOW is likely going to be at least a SOLID if not exceptional SS.... And that's pretty much sandy's guys.  For the most part, top 10 picks are pretty much guaranteed to end up league average or better with a few exceptions (unfortunately, mets probably number 1 at failure on that list with Steve Chilcott)  But there's much better chance of success with a top 10 pick than failure. After that, it gets more risky.

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

No, I'd rather them not tank because I like to see them win... I understand about draft picks, but their scouts are terrible and have done really nothing to prove otherwise... With the exception of the pitching.

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

With low expectations comes great surprises...

DMMP
DMMP

@kefhrny17  Dom Smith COULD be here by 2016 if everything comes together and he continues strong... 2017 is more likely though... I mean, if he absolutely dominates and destroys I guess 2015 isn't out of the question in september, though I highly doubt it.  He'd be one of the youngest guys in the league.  Call ups like that are usually reserved for future superstars.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Brilliant retort. Any others up your sleeve?

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@Steven Matregrano  also we're not looking for an all star team. We're looking for a winning team. Teams have done much better with less. Joe Maddon doesn't have all star teams down in Tampa but somehow he manages to win with a revolving door of players. Not to mention, he seems to get the best out of them more often than not. A trait that is not found in blessed Terry. 

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@Steven Matregrano  No job in America is it ok to consistently fail and consistently blame others unless you are the President or TC. I've said this before, good managers make the best of what they have. Bob Melvin, Clint Hurdle, and so on. TC had talent in Houson and with the Angels but never made the playoffs. The year after he left Houston , they won first place and made the playoffs with almost exactly the same roster. He was run out of town by the players in Anaheim due to his poor leadership skills and ability to communicate effectively with younger players. There is absolutely nothing about TC that says he can coach up a team the way some guys can. Some managers get the most of their players, clearly that is not the case with Terry.

lgm86
lgm86

@Steven Matregrano  Agreed, but you know what he could do?  He could show some consistency and leadership.  He made a big deal about naming Duda the starter and sat him 3 of the next 7 games.  He doesn't understand statistics or defensive value.  He's going to continue to shove EY Jr. into the lineup over better players.