What’s on Tap for Wednesday, August 6

The Mets (54-59) continue their three-game series with the first-place Nationals (60-51) on Wednesday in Washington at 7:05 p.m.

Jon Niese (5-7, 3.24 ERA) gets the start for the Mets, opposed by Doug Fister (10-3, 2.68 ERA) for Washington.


In case you missed it…


Zack Wheeler fought through a rough beginning before settling in as the Mets topped the Nationals by the score of 6-1 on Tuesday night in Washington >> Read more at MetsBlog, ESPN, MLB.com, Newsday, New York Post and Daily News

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Matt Harvey threw 25 total pitches from the mound in Port St. Lucie, during his second bullpen session since Tommy John surgery >> Read more at MetsBlog




137 comments
darkknight
darkknight

28-32 isn't the prime anymore. That is a fact tainted by the steroid era, which greatly slow the aging process

Praggy Ptl
Praggy Ptl

DH 56 gms / LF 47 gms / RF 8 gms


April: 101 PA / .284 BA / .376 OBP / .956 OPS / 25 RBI / 7 HR / 5 doubles / 22 K

May: 129 PA / .339 BA / .388 OBP / 1.135 OPS / 27 RBI / 13 HR / 8 doubles / 27 K

June: 117 PA / .215 BA / .282 OBP / .647 OPS / 14 RBI / 5 HR / 1 double / 23 K

July: 106 PA / .211 BA / .292 OBP . .671 OPS / 9 RBI / 4 HR / 4 doubles / 19 K

Aug (small sample): 17 PA / .133 BA / .176 OBP / .376 OPS / 2 RBI / 0 HR / 1 double / 5 K

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Does "Doug Fister" have his name blocked out by your more tough blocking software?

</innocent look>

Mets0987
Mets0987

Damn 90 player names could be released in a testimony of 3 years.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Its a shame this organization hasn't developed better position players over the years.. we might not be having this conversation.

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

I find it interesting that no one can agree to what starting pitcher to deal to get the big bat we need.


But think about it. We at least for once in a very long time have extra good level talent to trade to really improve the club.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

I think a lot of this depends on what Sandy does ..a good GM knows when to trade players..knows the capabilities of his players and adjusts accordingly...on Gee and Neise?....maybe one of them should have been traded already[before any arm problems]..?

matmil
matmil

I think one major drawback of this offense is they strikeout too much. We need more guys like Murph and fewer Grady's and Youngs.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

And for those who think Flores cant hit...has he ever been given a chance?...the kid has had  3  80 rbi seasons in the minors..and is still young..so?

darkknight
darkknight

@Praggy Ptl oh cruz..... yeah cruz is terrible, the fact that people act like Sandy should have signed him is absurd. He might have been worse than CY on the mets

mets74
mets74

@Joe Paulson I have to spell it "Pfister" but now there's an article about cupping. I got away with that one though.  

theglider
theglider

Done kicking the handicapped this morning?

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

@Albert E Lewis They say good pitching takes longer to develop. So if you are a rebuilding club, develop that first. Than move to hitting. Seems to be what Mets have done and still in the middle of that process.

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

@Mike Herrington its almost like the NBA draft - when you have 3 top players.  Its all the perception of the other team and who they think has the highest ceiling.  If you ask people who they think has the highest ceiling out of Wheeler, DeGroom and Syndargaard? I am willing to think that the voting would be pretty close

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

@matmil fair statement, they have struck out 919 times this year but in comparison their opponents have struck out 898. so its almost a wash.


and yes i have seen enough of the Youngs for a lifetime 

theglider
theglider

Actually he has been given two chances and did nothing. But don't let facts stand in the way of some posts on here.

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

@theglider  He's hardly been given "2 chances".  Are you kidding me?  Flores has gotten prolonged playing time?  Hardly. 

Mexpert
Mexpert

@theglider You are insane if you think Flores was given a shot. You are a moron and need to shut up.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Rimo Chaloney Dont waste your time on the glider he has an unnatural hatred for Flores. 

theglider
theglider

I just go by numbers. You go by excuses.

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

@Mexpert @theglider with Tejada getting a hit last night and starting the 2 dp's you can bet the farm he will be in the lineup again today 

Mexpert
Mexpert

@borsh13 Look I hope he isnt but does it seem normal that the so called clean players dropped off HR totals with the the rise in testing. DW used to hit 25-32 HRS he is gonna hit 12 this year. The experts say Peds dont make you hit hRS but they allow you to stay strong all year. DW looks tired in bunches. That is the way it was when I was a kid Dave Kingman and Mike Shmidt would have 30 HR at the Break and end up with 36 and 37. 

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

@Mexpert @Rimo Chaloney  Agreed.  He doesn't want Flores to succeed. I root for Tejada, but after watching him these past few years, you see what he is.  A low .200 hitter with decent to good (not great) defense. 

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

@theglider if you go by numbers you would have stopped playing this guy to:


his 1st 2 years numbers


Games 145

At Bats 483

BA .197

HR's 19

RBI 55

K's 151


Mike Schmidt

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Karl Leopold I watch the game I see 3 terrible at bats and an infield hit I also see the same terrible technique on the DP's did you notice the high toss on the first one. Although as much as i think he stinks he did react well to the high hop off the lip. But he was the worst player on the field last night.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@Mexpert @borsh13 Or maybe its because he is 31 and not 24 anymore. Everyone gets tired down the stretch and there were many years in the past when Wright's production dropped off in the 2nd half. Also David was about 15 to 20 pounds lighter during his homerun phase. Other than a decrease in homeruns from previous years (which happens to half the players in the league) nothing adds up to Wright having anything to do with roids.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@jimmybxnyc Are you serious ? Why cant he just admit who he is. Tejada is an Omar guy too.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@borsh13 I said an infield hit and i stand by that I though good contact. But lets get real on many nights that is 5-3. I also say he showed good hands on the high hop although horrible feed that made it too close.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Rimo Chaloney  I see a panicky fielder bad arm terrible backhand and he requires 100% effort to get the ball across the diamond. In Flores I see a relaxed and smooth player maybe too relaxed. But I give him credit the other rookies look like they want to kill Terry he and Lagares are well behaved.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer Yeah the one year in between when he was jacked I think 2012 he was in the 20's but he said he lifted a ton . Not accusing but without Peds most baseball players cant sustain that kind of workout regime. Unless you Believe Nomar worked out 6 days a week 9-5 without Peds and then feel off the planet with Drug testing was a coincidence.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@mustang66 I'd start listing the players throughout history that slowly dropped off in their careers but that would take the rest of my life. Stop instantly tying people who have abnormalities in their numbers to steroids, its annoying and ignorant. There are so many variables in baseball it's insane, to tie our captain and the backbone of our team for the past 10 years to steroids without a shred of proof other than numbers is beyond disrespectful. He has stayed with this team even when the people running it stopped caring about it, he is our only remaining tie to when times were good, so until there is proof, he deserves better treatment than this from our fans.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@Mexpert @Zach Goeringer A back injury and being tardy on fastballs is not proof. It's a back injury and being tardy on fastballs. This era of baseball is annoying because every time a players struggles or has a less productive season the dolts cry steroids. Also by 2012 there was mandatory testing on a monthly basis for every member of every team so that sort of squashes that theory. Guess he was just lifting weights.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@jimmybxnyc @Zach Goeringer @Mexpert @borsh13 Oh completely right. It wouldn't have anything to do with being switched to batting 3rd in the order, having no one around him, swinging at bad pitches trying to do too much, upper cutting, changing his two strike approach. In his best years he batted behind two future hall of famers. So his production dropped off? that happens to half the players in the league on any given year. Don't accuse someone of something when you have absolutely no proof and barely a hunch, better yet the captain of our team.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@jimmybxnyc Interesting I agree that Flores has that potential and Tejada doesn't.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@borsh13 I do I see Tejada as having no skill and amazing that he has gotten this far. I see Flores as great potential and it would be nice to give him 50 games at ss to see if we have a real good hitter at a weak offensive position. Terry has wasted 4 second halfs trying to win and not answering these question marks.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Karl Leopold @Mexpert  no doubt Interesing Tejada had a an error on easy backhand in a Wheeler game that was changed to a hit. It was Nats and LaRoache weird scoring.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer everyone drops off but not at 27. Also he dropped off with no injury. I like DW alot and he has been a good player but something is missing. Backbone of a losing era is not a great item on his resume. He never carried the team and he disappears way too often. Carlos Delgado who without a doubt was PED user carried this team for long stretches.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer I agree in 2012 he was lifting the point is Wade Boggs said it. Is that with Peds you can lift for ever even during the season. One theory is he tried to do it naturally in 2012 but he couldnt sustain it. I give him credit. He maybe a 280-300 hitter with 10- 20 HR potential. 

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer Look i hope it isnt true but He and Reyes do fit the profile Reyes was a skinny kid Reyes injuries and DW back fracture all fit the injuries from Peds.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@Mexpert @Zach Goeringer They say that steroids weren't around in the 60's but im not buying it. Roger Maris hit 61 home runs and then completely dropped off in his late twenties and by the time he was Wright's age he only hit 13 homers that year. This could only mean one thing...STEROIDS. Put that asterisk back next to his name.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@borsh13 I heard wally and Edgardo Alphonso say this guy can play SS i trust them over Terry. I have seen him play I saw back hand throwing on the run and the dp all very good technique. I think he has 1 error at ss.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer  He had a misdiagnosed broken hand you are a fool. You need to learn the game and understand the history. I bet you thought skinny shortstops are supposed to hit 40 and 50 Hr's also. Its natural.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer very foolish very short porch 295 to right batting ahead of the greatest player in the league. he hit 33 the next year and 23 in 90 games after that 26 then onset of injuries. You talk out of your ass he played 46 games the year before his 13 medicine and training wasnt as good and by the way I hope Wright gets to 13 this year.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@Mexpert @Zach Goeringer I need to learn the game? you have spent the better part of 2 hours accusing a player of taking steroids based on a drop off in stats and nothing else. Shame on you. I used Maris as an example because he dropped off around the same time as Wright. There are endless other examples of this. The people that actually did do steroids did a grave disservice to the game not only because of  inflated stats but because it made people cry foul every time there is a abnormal variable which is unfair and downright ignorant. I'm done defending myself to someone who has shown no basis for his argument other than crying about the fact that he doesn't hit 20 homers anymore. Do yourself a favor and never take up a career in law.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer  Haha very ironic comment. Circumstantial evidence is evidence. It is not the quality of an eyewitness account. You are fool if you think cases aren't proven on this type of evidence. Now if you are talking reasonable doubt, that is the standard criminal law. In civil law it is a preponderance of the evidence. meaning 50.1% is enough.  Now i don't know if he ever took steroids and his numbers arent that insane like Ivan Rodriguez Brady Anderson and Javy Lopez. All I said was i wouldn't be surprised. The Fact that you blindly used Maris as an example because he dropped off is foolish. You need to understand he was seriously injured misdiagnosed with a hand injury and played less games and in those days played at less than 100%

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@Mexpert @Zach Goeringer a drop off in stats is not circumstantial evidence for steroid allegations, its an educated opinion. Opinions are not evidence. Circumstantial evidence would be if his finger print was found on a needle or a bottle, direct evidence would be video of him taking steroids. Maris played 119 games the year he hit 13, that's 17 less games than a year in which he won an MVP award. I'm sure he was injured and you are right about that, but what I'm arguing is sometimes players drop off and there is no reason for it other than maybe he doesn't handle adversity as well as others. David showed a glimpse into his past when he played for team usa, batted 5th, and had an actual team around him. Being that the Mets have dropped off at basically the same rate as Wright i'd think that would be a better reason for his decline than crying steroids.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Zach Goeringer  You have no clue opinions are evidence. Experts are asked to testify all the time once they offer an opinion it is evidence. Some opinions dont require an expert to be admitted into evidence for example Handwriting and voice recognition to name a 2. Finger prints are not circumstantial evidence they are direct evidence if they match. A fingerprint on a mirror will prove someone was in the room. It doesnt prove a crime was committed by that person.  You really have a little knowledge but I happen to be the expert on evidence. What you are referring to is the quality of the evidence not whether it is or isn't. Like I said i dont know absolutely but I wouldn't be surprised. I would need more to suspend him and clearly there is no proof at this point to warrant discipline.