What’s on tap for Sunday, Aug. 24

Today at 4:10 pm ET on SNY, the Mets conclude their three-game series against the Dodgers in Los Angeles.

Bartolo Colon (11-10, 3.85 ERA) returns from the bereavement list to face Kevin Correia (7-13, 4.87)…


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In case you missed it…

Jacob deGrom pitched well the first three innings, but the Dodgers eventually tagged him for five runs and defeated the Mets, 7-4, on Saturday night in Los Angeles…


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The Mets put Bartolo Colon on revocable waivers (Rosenthal, Aug. 24). In the event Colon clears, the Mets are free to trade him to any team. If he’s claimed, the Mets can pull him back or try to work out a trade with that team.




32 comments
George Komninakis
George Komninakis

Collins keeps batting Wright in the 3 hole despite him being a rally killer all year.  That is why i love managers who do not care how much a player makes, but how much the player performs.    Geez, if we aren't going to trade him with Colon to the Orioles, can we at least bat him 5th!

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

"We’re going to go into September and I don’t know where we’re going to be in the standings, but I think it’s going to have meaning.”


- Terry Collins

matmil
matmil

Moving Wright out of the 3 spot has been a no brainier for over a month. Only Collins would have left him there and shows that he is an insecure manager. Best thing going forward is to sign a player who can hit in the 3 spot and move Wright down in the order to take pressure off of him. Murph could hit 3 but Collins won't do it and I don't know why. Expectations have to come down on Wright, I feel for the rest of his career. But he can still be an integral part of a resurgence if they can get him some help. But Collins definitely has to go.

josef
josef

If Terry keeps putting Wright out there to bat 3rd, we may get to the promise land! 

baldy
baldy

Don't give up, guys! 90 wins is still possible. We just have to win 30 of our last 32 games. Ya gotta believe!

josef
josef

Let's face it! Wright is not capable of carrying a team on his back, like Pujols used to in Saint Louis or currently Stanton is in Miami, or how Jeter had done for years for the Yankees till recently. The only time he carried the team was in 2007, during their infamous Collapse 1.0, when no one was hitting in August and September but him. Starting from 2008, or the Collapse 2-0, till now, he has not carried the team, even despite solid stats in 2012, and 2013. He has been a very good player till this year, but by no means he is an elite player. An elite player not only carries the team when needed on a consistent basis, he is their true leader, and makes those around him accountable and better, which Wright does not. His career batting average, which till this year was over 300, is now at 298 and dropping. His career batting average with RISP is around 250! An elite player has his batting average and his batting average with RISP around the same, and in some cases, an elite player has a higher batting average with RISP than his regular average. This is one of the best barometers of being elite, which Wright is not. Sadly enough, his batting average with RISP and 2 outs, drops even further and goes below 250, His batting average with RISP and 2 outs, indicative of very close games, from the 7th inning onward, drops even lower.

All this points to the fact that he has been a very good player statistically, with a solid glove, but he has never been elite and will never be.

This year, he is just plain terrible, and when you have an idiot as a manger, who consistently runs him out there to bat 3rd nonetheless, the results are clear. At this point with his horrific 2014, he should sometimes be benched and when playing, he should be batting 6th, not 3rd.

During the course of his career, most his HRs, and RBIs have come in games when the team is way behind, or way ahead. If you look at his stats of 1 and 2 run games, either wins or losses, the number of his HRs and RBIs per at bat in those games is significantly lower than his career averages. All this shows that those of you who unconditionally defend and protect him, are either clueless about what a team leader, a captain, or an elite player should be like, or have a man crush on him because of his pleasant personality, nice demeanor, and being a good all-around guy. Or you may be vicariously living through him, a guy with money, good looks, having a model as a girlfriend and future wife, etc.

Time to see the reality!

frustrated
frustrated

2 1/2 out of last place.  I have faith the mets can make it there.  Battle for the basement 2014!!!!! maybe by the end of the year Wright's average will be under .250.  does he even hit double digits in HRS this year? I still think the big issue with getting to last place will be some of the vegas call ups in september.  This could cause the team to win some games.  Until TC rubs off the losing mentality on them.


Terry Collins is a loser.  End of story.

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

The pressure is on Terry from up top now -- Mets are currently 11th in the draft for next year and if they fall to the top ten, they won't have an excuse to not sign a free agent. Win Terry, Win!

shea
shea

If Sandy can move Colon our payroll will fall to bottom 3 teams in all of baseball......BOTTOM 3!!!!

mrgee
mrgee

Remember those fun years when we had a nice big lead over Philly and then little by little the graphic of the Phanatic got larger until they overtook us?

Yeah, that's kind of how it feels right now, except instead of a playoff race, we are talking about the race for last in the East.

tullydew
tullydew

What's on tap for Sunday, Aug 24......

Another loss

matmil
matmil

It's meaning is going to be he has to find out where the unemployment office is.

hurricaneditka
hurricaneditka

@baldy  So basically, we're going to be mathematically eliminated from reaching Sandy's goal before the last month of the season even begins. Maybe by 2016 we can be a .500 club, that seems like a more realistic goal

josef
josef

@dk1357 and if we go 28-4, we will make the playoffs!

josef
josef

@dk1357 All we need to do is go 21-11 the rest of the way, to finish at 500!

nncyel
nncyel

@josef It's ok for you to not like Wright. But it's not ok for you to make up stats. Wright's career BA with RISP is .294 not .250. Giancarlo Stanton is .264. So Wright is better than Stanton for that particular statistic - a lot better. You clearly have an agenda against Wright and are selectively choosing stats to prove your point, but in your haste to do so are getting numbers wrong. Moreover, by your own criterion - "An elite player has his batting average and his batting average with RISP around the same" Wright is an elite player because his BA and his BA with RISP are indeed about the same.

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

@josef Wright has sucked since the ASB, but no need to make up stuff.  To say most of his HRs and RBI's come when the games have been decided is just not true.   If you look at this team the last few years, most of their games are close, so in fact there are very few opportunities to pad stats.  The one major knock on Wright is that he very rarely the last 5 years has hit a 2 or 3 run HR late in the game that has led to a win or has gotten us back into the game.  This year he has been pretty bad in late close situations, hitting only about .200 according to baseball reference.


Tough to compare Wright to Jeter when Jeter has had Hall of Famers surrounding him for for 20 years.  Wright had his best years when the line-up had some players in it, but besides Duda this year, the line-up has been barren of a legit hitter since they traded Beltran in 2011.


Easy to start hating when the team is in a tail spin.  Don't root for DW when he bounces back next year.

shea
shea

@frustrated Im not defending Collins....he is indefensible....BUT....if i were to defend him I would point to the following:

-His GM gave him a "power bat" that is so bad this year, Collins is forced to bat him leadoff 

-His GM went into the year publicly stating the need to improve at SS, yet did nothing

-His one legit player, wright, is having a awful year

-He was forced to bat Young (dont tell me he wasnt, the more you read its becoming clear he was forced to play that bum)


Again, Collins is indefensible, and I want a new manager....but IMO Alderson deserves a bigger share of the blame than Collins. 

1harris1
1harris1

@mrgee  And to think, those "fun years" of '07 and "08 were the good old days.  LOL  Who could have thunk it?

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

@matmil The Mets will not fire him. His job is more secure than a Supreme Court judge's.

josef
josef

@hubie_wc Do you consider him to be an elite player and a clutch guy for his career?

josef
josef

@shea @frustrated I agree, That had better options out there to sign a bigger bat, since players with much better track record in their career were still available. Instead, Alderson picked up a guy in C Young, who has a very good year 2 years back, with no true track record of success, and paid him 7.5 mil.

Even Grandy's signing for the number of years they gave him was questionable at best, and that is on Alderson too.

frustrated
frustrated

@shea @frustrated  totally agree there.  sure he has helped the minor league system in theory.  I say in theory because we truly do not know the complete picture on that and will not for at least a few years.  I just can't see having a manager who loses year in year out and falls apart in the 2nd half of every year come back yet another season.  He unfortunately is the face of this debacle along with Sandy.  I am sure this goes all the way up to the wilpons on how they run the franchise.  Unfortunately you cannot fire the owners or force them to sell unless something catastrophic happens (donald sterling) type of event.


Just need to see a new face, new strategy, new coaching staff, new left fielder, new shortstop, and a major shake up.  MAJOR

shea
shea

@DarrolRayFanClub @shea

started the year ranked 22nd in payroll at 89m


Take out Ike's 5, Colons 2, gets us to right in range of the bottom rung.....we'll never get to the Marlins or Astros level (there is a significant drop to those two) but the Rays at 77m are within reach.


You also have to factor, the A's started the year with lower payroll but have added...so our ranking would fall even without Ike and Colon

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

@josef @hubie_wc Elite player - no.  But there are very few of those.   Clutch - through 2008 definitely yes, the last 4-5 it has been been spotty.  Not enough.


He should have been dropped in the order 2-3 weeks ago.

josef
josef

@hubie_wc @josef I agree with your assessments! Things began to change after 2008.

Do you think he deserved the contract they gave him? It seemed the FO chose Wright over Reyes for financial reasons, but retrospectively, how would have things turned out if they had signed both, neither, or Reyes over Wright?

Would be interested in your comments!

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

@josef @hubie_wc I would not have signed Reyes to a six year deal.  Way too brittle.  He has performed well only recently in Toronto.  On Wright, 8 years was too long, but that was the market at the time.  Now we are seeing the fallout in the post steroid era.  The front office had to sign Wright after they traded Beltran and Reyes was let go.  They had no choice or else ticket sales would have plummeted further.


They need him to bounce back or else that contract will make Jason Bay's look like a bargain.

suzyq
suzyq

Exactly! An 8 year contract to a guy who is 31 and will finish out his contract at 39 was totally ridiculous when he was never a great player to begin with. Sandy had a hell of a senior moment and the fans are going to suffer for it if wright doesn't snap out of whatever funk he's in.

josef
josef

@hubie_wc @josef To me, the worst move from the business perspective was that in the summer of the last year of Reyes here, they should have known whether they were going to sign him to not. If the answer was yes, they should done whatever necessary to sign him. And if the answer was no, which seems to be the case, they should have traded him to a contender for some high level prospects. Not trading him, and then not trying to sign him either, is stupidity from a business standpoint, The ROI in this case was absolute zero!