Duda Davis

What you need to know about the Mets 1B situation

1) Terry Collins and Sandy Alderson repeatedly said all winter that first base would come down to a competition between Lucas Duda and Ike Davis during Spring Training. However, both players spent most of the spring rehabbing from injury.


2) They split time through the first week of regular-season games, with Josh Satin getting one start against LHP Gio Gonzalez.


3) Late last week, Collins said Duda would begin getting most of the starts at first base when facing a right-handed starting pitcher, while Satin would most likely start against left-handed pitching. Ike Davis would be on the bench.


4) Davis hit a pinch-hit, walk-off grand slam this past Saturday, then started Sunday at first base against a right-handed starting pitcher. Duda was on the bench.

Collins said after Sunday’s game that Duda would return to the starting lineup Tuesday against right-handed pitcher Aaron Harang.

“We’ve got to at least stick by our plan a little bit,” Collins said Sunday, saying he still intends to play Duda more days than not, since if Duda fails he can play other positions, whereas Davis is only a first baseman.


5) The Mets still think it’s possible they trade Davis, according to sources (Martino, Apr. 4). The Pirates and Astros may still be looking to acquire a first baseman, but the Mets are not anxious to make a move just yet (Heyman, Apr. 7).




94 comments
Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

This could not be botched anymore than it has been. Its a platoon. Then they randomly hand the job to Duda. Then the next day they start the other guy and Duda sits. Is Moe Howard running this team?

triviaace
triviaace

These front office and bench decisions just reinforce my thinking that Alderson and Collins are idiots and should be on the next train out of Dodge.  Their decisions are mind boggling to say the least.  Collins press conference is somewhat like Casey Stengel's except Casey knew baseball.

kasper11
kasper11

I don't understand this..." he still intends to play Duda more days than not, since if Duda fails he can play other positions, whereas Davis is only a first baseman"


To me, that is more reason to play Davis.  He is first base or bust.  If he succeeds, maybe you find other spots for Duda.  Maybe he ends up in the outfield again (god I hope we don't need him there).  Or DH's when necessary.


But right now, you are in a situation where, if by some chance Duda succeeds at first, you never try Ike.  You end up with Duda at first and Ike nowhere.  

bleck319
bleck319

Give Ike the season.  Give d'Arnaud the season.  If they do not produce, go sign or trade for a first baseman and catcher next year.


If both produce.  Great.  Sign an outfielder and extra relief help.


If one produces and one does not, keep the strength and fix the weakness.

JoMama
JoMama

I don't understand how Ike is in the mix at all. Can't hit, can't field, can't do anything. My mom can hit .185

Zach Ripple
Zach Ripple

Competition? Duda- 2 for 14 with 2 walks, 2 homers: .143/.250/.571. Davis- 4 for 8 with 1 walk, 1 double, 1 homer: .500/.556/1.000. And the winner is.... DUDA??? If this is a competition, I'm going to have to say it's a bit rigged, eh?

adam
adam

Sandy was supposed to bring structure to this organization and he has not. It's a complete mess. Ike and Duda, if they both played a full season, would have very similar seasons. Duda a higher on base, Ike a better fielder. They are both decent players. That's it. That's all they ever will be. Play one, trade or cut the other. Put an end to our misery of having to read this crap everyday. At the end of the day I blame Sandy. He's like the nice boss who can't make the tough decisions and fire the nice employee who can't get the job done. It's been almost 5 years and were virtually in the same position we were 5 years ago, we just have pitching prospects instead of hitting prospects. Our best player is towards the end of his prime. Our best pitcher may never be the same. Our top offensive prospect, TdA, stinks. Wheeler looks like a #3 at best.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Theres always a better way ..and that way is not Duda or Davis.

grandpamet
grandpamet

What you need to know about the Mets 1B situation: If you have 3 first baseman, you have none.

GhostofCasey
GhostofCasey

We had the greatest expectations for Ike when we signed him and he finally made it to the show.  With all the drama surrounding first base, the fact is that he is still a first baseman and Duda is not.  At best, Duda looks like an Adam Dunn clone.  Good occasional power; no real defensive skills; no speed; no "pep".  He does not inspire teammates to play better, ask iconic first baseman do.  He is just part of the scenery, which doesn't motivate anyone.  If you had to trade someone, he has to go.  He is really the man without a position and he is not a long-term solution for the Mets.  Can Ike be that guy?  Maybe and maybe not, but 2014 is another year for the team to see what they have and what they need to jettison. I say give Ike until the All-Star break and then fish or cut bait.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

My god, it seems like we've been reading this article for the past five months. It's like Groundhog Day. If I'm the Bucs or Astros I trade for Ike and just start him at 1B for the rest of the season. Yeah, he's fairly anemic against lefties but he'll still crack 20+ home runs. Duda is what he is--a plodding cripple-hitter with limited range at one position. Not sure Satin has been given all that much of a chance. But the three-headed monster simply does not work.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

I hope Colorado sucks this year and they look to trade Cargo. I'd trade anyone of prospects for him. I hope that's what the Mets are saving there money and prospects for a big time impact bat like this then I could live tejeda tda and duda or Ike. In fact id throw anyone of these guys in the package too hahaha

tigerinblu
tigerinblu

this blog repeats the same crap over and over and over and over and over

tjsands
tjsands

If they want to go with Duda, I am fine with that.  Ike has had plenty of chances to solidify his hold on the position and has not done it.  I cannot honestly say that Duda has been given the same chance, especially when playing his preferred position.  Either way, they are both flawed players and neither is the likely long-term solution.  Unfortunately, Dom Smith is only 19 so we are looking for a 2-3 year solution...


That said, they should not use "position versatility" as a key consideration.  Duda is not a good OF and Ike was All-Pac-10 as a RF at Arizona State.  Why don't we try him out there?  He supposely has a very strong arm and in fact was a relief pitcher (which we could use as well!)


Either way, they are both flawed players and neither is the likely long-term solution. Unfortunately, Dom Smith is only 19 so we are looking for a 2-3 year solution.  


And hopefully, that solution is not an automatic out...

matt520
matt520

Duda stinks and has limited upside. Ike stinks but at least has the upside to be an above average contributor.

If Ike is traded, is there any doubt that he will bat .260-30-90? He has that upside, he has hit 30 in the past, he is far superior than Duda with the glove, he clearly is beloved by his teammates (chemistry matters), and he should be starting everyday for the Mets.


Chad Michael
Chad Michael

It is a tough spot.  I get Terry not wanting to flip flop back and forth based on who had the better day earlier in the week.  Yes Duda had the monster game but overall I think Ike has looked stronger at the plate.  To be honest he probably should have held off on naming anyone a starter.  That way he wouldn't have tied himself down so early on.

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

I'm not clear, just why do we need to know this (as if we already didn't)?


Trade 'em both and find a real fill in until Smith is ready. Who cares if one or the other succeeds with some other team? At least then, there won't be a management plan to almost/ sorta/ kinda stick to "a little bit." Geez, can't these guys work together and buy into each others' ideas more than a little bit?

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

A little competition never hurt anybody. Maybe Ike is doing well bc he sees his job slippin away. Maybe if the mets brought in a quality backup to tda or tejeda I could see them performing better. The problem with the mets is these guys are jus handed jobs without really performing at a high level. Obv wright and grandy are handed starting jobs bc they have sustained real success over a long period of time in the majors. But who's is tejeda duda Ike and tda to be handed anything. Ideally you want an everyday first basemen but the current ones we have on this roster do not deserve to be handed a starting job . Now if they brought someone who has had real and consistent succes in the majors then yeah hand him the starting job.

BadContract
BadContract

“We’ve got to at least stick by our plan a little bit”, speaks volumes Collins.

rico
rico

After Ike's grand Salami i think Sandy's asking price went up for him.


Yanks just traded Nunez for an good young reliever..sigh

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

These two should be installing cable televison. 

mike23
mike23

Just let Ike play 1b full time this  year and if he is awful again go get a new fresh 1b for next season. Trade Duda to an American league team. 

Bud Britton
Bud Britton

@JoMama Duda is a lumbering oaf who can't get near a ball to lean over a railing and catch it, who sprints to first on a ball that is hit hoping to make it on time, who doesn't know how to cut off a ball, who has crap footwork on the bag and who unlike your mom, can't hit .185. All this to get power in the line up? What are you watching? Duda's best season at any level isn't nearly as good as Ike's best in the bigs. Or is it that you spell Duda I-K-E???


metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@tjsands  The thought that any first basemen has had a fair chance to win the job is insane. Terry switches lineups everyday. Ike probably has 100 ab's vs lefties in the last year and half. If that. Terry does not understand the concept of picking a starter and sticking with him. I don't care who it is. Play them everyday . For 2 weeks. No matter the starter. Then play satin vs the next lefty after that. Rinse , repeat. Consistent at bats get people going. Not playing 3 out of every 6 days. 

adam
adam

Who cares if his teammates like him??? That's the problem with this team!!! Whether or not he's liked is irrelevant. They both stink. Every teammate hated Ricky Henderson, and Michael Jordan, that didn't seem to matter. Ike Davis's job in life is to hit the ball, and he stinks at his job. Nice guys finish last.

jsnooka
jsnooka

Both belong in triple a. So who cares. I believe that next years 1st baseman is currently not on our roster. Thankfully

Mike Baudistel
Mike Baudistel

@Wayno  Have we really seen enough out of Flores to believe he's a decent major league player?  I just don't get the love affair with him.  He's looked decent at times but definitely does blow me away.


hankincolo
hankincolo

I've been a big fan of Ike's and I still think he's the answer, but I would not give him the entire season, more like two months of constant playing. If he fails, he fails. Then you move on and bring up Duda. 

JoMama
JoMama

@Bud Britton I don't disagree but I am done with Ike. We gave him a shot, he's as awful as they come and only starts hitting in late Aug. He blows, if we're gonna win 75 games I'd rather see anyone else in there. Do you recall how bad Ike was for 75% of the last 2 years? 

ferizzi726
ferizzi726

@BringBackDaveTelghe @Zach Ripple  Yes, however, Ike is the hot hand right now. And this is a guy who has the last 2 seasons started terrible. So when he's off to a good start and showing signs of hope, why would you bench him?

Bud Britton
Bud Britton

@Pete Brilvitch @Bud Britton@JoMamaThe only two that have bothered me are Ike and Beltran, and I believe after going his own route that Carlos has proven everyone wrong.They are doing a decent job being proactive with all the broken golden arms...


Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@JoMama @Bud Britton You forget that he started off 2011 well. He was hitting over .300 and near the league lead in RBIs when he got hurt that year.

Bud Britton
Bud Britton

@JoMama @Bud Brittonone year coming off injury and a lost season, the other coming off illness with another injury. Duda sucks when healthy. The guy is nothing more than a DH, bench Ike and you need to have an answer better than Duda.