What is going on with Curtis Granderson?

The Mets scored eight runs and had 16 hits on Tuesday, yet Curtis Granderson was 0-for-5 with a strikeout.

Granderson, who is batting .144 during his last 170 plate appearances, was not in the starting lineup Wednesday against the Marlins. Instead, Terry Collins started Kirk Nieuwenhuis, who hit a two-run home run and helped the Mets to their second straight win.


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This season, Granderson is batting .210 with 16 home runs and 49 RBI, while striking out in 23 percent of his at bats. According to FanGraphs’s WAR, Jason Bay did more to help win games in his 95-game first year with the Mets than Granderson has done in 133 games this season.

That said, Collins is hopeful Granderson will be better in 2015.

“I think a year in the National League, I think a year seeing what it takes to be successful in this park, I think he’ll probably come into spring training with a different outlook of what he’s got to do to find success here,” Collins said earlier this week.

Granderson signed a four-year, $60 million deal with the Mets prior to this season.

“The guy has been invisible,” a Mets person recently told John Harper (Daily News, Aug. 28). “Remember, he was supposed to be our cleanup hitter.”




165 comments
Sequan Canady
Sequan Canady

Yankee fans laughed at me when he was traded to us. I see why

Andrew Boone
Andrew Boone

He is trying to pull everything to right. Going to NYY might have ruined his swing.

triviaace
triviaace

Maybe the great manager should talk to the great general manager and try to get Jason Bay back so we can have bookend outfielders in right and left fields.  Scratch that because he might just do it!

qualcomm
qualcomm

“Remember, he was supposed to be our cleanup hitter.” I hope whoever said that silly statement has nothing to do with baseball operations.

Coupon Hater
Coupon Hater

REMEMBER CRUZ AND THE GOOD ABREU WERE BOTH AVAILABLE BUT WE GOT GRANDY AND CY

counselor
counselor

Remember hes a career 250 hitter. Remember he's a 150 times a year strikeout victim.  

David Jay
David Jay

What's going on with Granderson?


HE SU CKS.


Any other questions?


Kyle Turck
Kyle Turck

My  yankee fan uncle called this when we signed Grandy. he said Grandy was all or nothing but mostly nothing. I hope to god I'm wrong but I see alot of similarities to Bay. Maybe we can rent out Yankee stadium for a few games.

matmil
matmil

My question is this, will Collins play him everyday or spot him a few more and play the other guys mostly?

If curtis swings with 2 hands again he will probably be better

John Ericson
John Ericson

TC is hopeful Granderson will have a better 2015.  Based on what?  This is who this guy is.  He's a small ball park hitter.  He is going to do nothing for the Mets.  I said so at the signing and I'm no professional scout.  The Mets are idiots.  The so called genius of Sandy Alderson has been a giant flop.  Signing Granderson, Chris Young, a host of bust relief pitchers.  Sandy's last off season was a joke.  A chimp with a dart board could make better choices. 

Gerard McGinnis
Gerard McGinnis

Mets seem to take in players like Bay,Chris Young ,Grandy who are not young & struggled in the past. They pay them big bucks. They trade players who are young & play well. Pagan, Beltran etc.  Now they will trade Murphy who is an  Allstar & best hitter on the team. They never learn.

Steven M. Harries
Steven M. Harries

That said, Collins is hopeful Granderson will be better in 2015.

“I think a year in the National League, I think a year seeing what it takes to be successful in this park, I think he’ll probably come into spring training with a different outlook, get the same HGH of Jeter's he used with the Tigers and Yankees, and shoot up properly without being caught like Ol' BugEyes on the Brewers, of what he’s got to do to find success here,” Collins said earlier this week.

gold
gold

Eat the contract. I know this will never happen with $45 mil to go, but don't the Mets have a better chance to win with Niewenhaus, or den Dekker, or Campbell, or even EY out there?? Isn't putting the best team out there more important than the size of a contract??

Glenn Blasius
Glenn Blasius

If this doesn't put paid to the myth that we can buy our way out of our misery via the FA market, then there's no hope for any intelligent life on this website.   Has anybody taken a gander at Stephen Drew's number's while we are at it?  And for the record, Nelson Cruz has been extremely ordinary over the last 3 months.   What FA has Sandy passed on who would have bought us more then say, 2 more wins?  

queva
queva

"What's wrong with Granderson?"


I know--he stinks!

Paul Schmidt
Paul Schmidt

He hit 210 haaaaaaaaaaaa that is all tejada hits better haaaaaa

bklynlou
bklynlou

Forget about grandson an bay let's be thankful we have a pitcher that has the heart of a lion when he pitches he makes grandy an after though an bay an the pitcher is degrom and I am happy he  is met hopefully he wins rookie of the year great job degrom 

Mike Cutrone
Mike Cutrone

"Jason Bay did more to help win games in his 95-game first year with the Mets than Granderson has done in 133 games this season.".... Lol, that's crazy. I thought Bay was worse.

Randy Wilcox
Randy Wilcox

Wow. I know Terry has to say SOMETHING supportive but to say that yeah, once he gets a full year in the National League, THEN we hope he'll be able to come around...

...who gets a full year of "getting used to a league"? Not even the most promising rookies get that before being shipped to AAA or worse.

This is another Jason Bay/Oliver Perez situation, and sooner or later it's going to be on Grandy himself to do something to help the team - whether it's improve at the plate or sit yourself. 

I love the guy. Seriously. I am sure not a one of us is more disappointed in his performance than he is. Who wants go to NY for big bucks and suck? But sooner or later - or now - the situation becomes untenable.

This season is lost - for him and for the Mets. Some decisions need to be made before Opening Day. If his Spring Training isn't amazing, Grandy himself may have to earn respect by doing the right thing. I know, I know, on a basic human level that's asking way too much of anyone, but it has to come to perform or don't play.


iamwilpon
iamwilpon

I hate all these Jason Bay comparisons. Ridiculous! Jason Bay was far better....

josef
josef

Sadly, both Wright and Grandy are on the decline, but DW's drop off should be more concerning since he is only 31.

if we look back at the last 6 years of David Wright, from 2009 till now, he averages 16 HRs and 75 RBIs a season! These are hardly All-Star type stats, and are certainly not worth 22 million a year! It means from his age 25 till 31, which coincides with his prime, he has only averaged those numbers. Do we now expect him to be getting better, while he has started to move past his prime?

if we are lucky, David Wright will revert back to his career averages of the past 6 years, meaning around 15 HRs and 70 RBIs in 2015, which is better than 2014, but hardly what this young team needs!

As for Grandy, He is Jason Bay 2.0, only worse! He is going to make Jason Bay and his contract look reasonable!

We are stuck as these 2 make up 1/4 of our line up and our true veterans for the next few years!

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

2015 will be Sandys 5th year here...but wait till 2019.. and youll see..LOL!

mike23
mike23

Whats going on? He's not that good and hardly worth even half of what he is being paid. Maybe mets can do a bad contract for bad contract type of trade in the off season... he should also be playing left field as he has a weak arm. 

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Yeah, and Chris Young's swing is starting to come-around. It scares the literal bejesus outta me that we will be watching the Grandy-man and David Wright flail helplessly at the plate for the next three plus years. Wright will probably bounce back but Granderson has looked consistently inept for most of the season. And was killing the team in the #1, #2 and #4 spot.As several people have illustrated, Sandy should have taken a long look at the guys stats and realized that he might not be a good fit for Citifield. It's just logical. He is supposed to be a great guy and solid clubhouse presence. But it still feels like we are watching the return of Mike Cameron, George Foster and Jason Bay.

hashburry
hashburry

The other problem with Granderson is he can't throw, so it would be nice to bring in a real RFer and move him to left.

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

Since 2011 here are the FA position players that have signed multi year contracts averaging of $10M or more - let me know what ones you thought was a good signing


2013

Robinson Cano         10          $240,000,000

Jacoby Ellsbury       7              $153,000,000

Shin-Soo Choo       7              $130,000,000

Brian McCann        5              $85,000,000

Curtis Granders     4              $60,000,000

Jhonny Peralta      4              $53,000,000

Carlos Beltran       3              $45,000,000

Mike Napoli           2              $32,000,000

2012

Josh Hamilton        5              $123,000,000

B.J. Upton              5              $75,250,000

Nick Swisher          4              $56,000,000

Michael Bourn         4              $48,000,000

Angel Pagan           4              $40,000,000

Shane Victori           3              $39,000,000

Torii Hunter             2              $26,000,000

2011

Albert Pujols        10           $250,000,000

Prince Fielder        9              $214,000,000

Jose Reyes            6              $106,000,000

Jimmy Rollins         3              $38,000,000

Aramis Ramirez     3              $36,000,000

Michl Cuddyer        3              $31,500,000

Carlos Beltran        2              $26,000,000

smanj
smanj

@Gerard McGinnis Beltran?? He was 34 when they traded him, and they got Zack Wheeler in that deal....are you saying you would not have made that move?

Glenn Blasius
Glenn Blasius

@Steven M. Harries Collins is nothing if constantly hopeful.   If he weren't, his brains would be laying on the dugout floor at this point of the season.   

josef
josef

@queva He is just old and slow, and time has caught up with him! It is the beginning of the end!

Randy Wilcox
Randy Wilcox

@Mike Cutrone Bay had a helluva glove. And let's not forget Bay played himself into a few concussions that brought his decline on. Grandy just.....fell off.

bklynlou
bklynlou

@Randy Wilcox this is why Alderson keeps Terry around he says all the right to make Alderson look good  not the bad guy for these underperforming over paid jokes as players

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

@Kenneth Meltsner  What makes you think that David Wright will bounce back next year.  He might cut his strikeouts down to about 120 if he would open his eyes when he swings.  I am shocked that this "great" manager and coaching staff and Keith Hernandez never noticed this.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@Kenneth Meltsner  I agree I just don't see David and Curtis leading the way toward being a contender... I sincerely hope Wright is not in decline ..if he is.. that contract Sandy signed him to will not look good in the coming years along with the Grandy deal.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

@hashburry They already have better throwing rightfielders than Granderson.  I just don't think Collins knows this.  His moves/non-moves make absolutely no sense to me at all.

dave42
dave42

@Karl Leopold  I'll say Cano (so far, kind of), Ellsbury, Hunter, Beltran's '11 year and Cuddyer and I'll give Reyes a passing grade.  Cuddyer and Beltran's first are the best, I think. 

dooley
dooley

The true tragedy is that if we didn't sign Granderson, and he signed with a team with a hitter friendly park (and I think I pointed out how it's Citi Field affecting his performance in other posts on this thread), then we would all think we missed out on him.

Brian P. Mangan
Brian P. Mangan

@Karl Leopold NIce list.

2014: Cano, Ellsbury, Peralta, Napoli

2013: Bourn, Pagan

2012: Reyes, Rollins, Ramirez, Cuddyer, Beltran

hashburry
hashburry

@Karl Leopold Does any of that change the fact there was a high risk that Granderson would in fact stink?  Alderson signs guys and crosses his fingers.  See, e.g., Chris Young.

josef
josef

@Randy Wilcox @Mike Cutrone Grandy just sucks! If he was any good, the Yanks would have made a little attempt to keep him. And Sandy was stupid enough to outbid himself and overpay this guy, both on a per annum basis and on the number of years!. He could have offered 3 years for 35 mil, instead of 4 for 60!

josef
josef

@Jack Fitzpatrick @Kenneth Meltsner If he reverts to his last 6 year average of 16 HRs and 75 RBIs, we should all throw a party! :) We would be lucky, if he did even that! Forget the All-Star type numbers! Waste of 22 million per year for the next 7 years!

Mike Cutrone
Mike Cutrone

Right?!? Usually Keith notices everything lol.

Mike Cutrone
Mike Cutrone

David needs to move closer to the dam plate. Pitchers are killing him on the outside corner.

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

@hashburry @Karl Leopold as this list shows - most FA's signing are high risk.  There are 22 players listed and how many are playing to the current contract? about 33% maybe