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What is Eric Young Jr.’s role on the 2014 Mets?

In 148 games for the Mets and Rockies last season, Eric Young Jr. hit .249 with a .310 OBP, 27 doubles, seven triples, 70 runs scored and a league-leading 46 stolen bases.

He reached based 33 percent of the time when batting with no one on base.

Young has played 52 of his 404 games at second base, the rest he has played in the outfield.

The Mets acquired Young last summer from the Rockies for minor-league pitcher Collin McHugh.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

He’s an interesting player, and I understand why this front office tried to acquire him multiple times before landing him late last summer. He’s quick, exciting and versatile (at the plate and in the field), but he’s not an every-day contributor. He looked totally overexposed at times, despite a nice start. Yet, despite that, he can lead the league in stolen bases. As I said, he’s interesting…

Michael Baron, Contributor

In an ideal world, he is a fourth outfielder on this club. He could also prove to be a quality backup infielder, and perhaps spell Daniel Murphy against a tough lefty at second base.

Maggie Wiggin, Contributor

He is an ideal bench player. I’d like to see him get 200 or so at bats, primarily as a pinch-hitter with the occasional start due to rest or injury. And it goes without saying that he’ll be one of the best pinch-runners in the game not named Billy Hamilton, which is a nice trump card for close and late games.

Andrew Wharton, Contributor

I see EY as a fourth outfielder who — get this — actually comes off the bench, as opposed to starting. Weird, right? His speed and ability to play a couple of different positions is valuable, especially in situations where the Mets are playing for one run. I doubt he’ll serve as a defensive replacement because all three projected outfield starters can flash the glove on a consistent basis, but he can definitely be a solid option to turn the lineup over and kickstart a rally. In a less-than-perfect world, he serves as a starter in the event someone becomes injured or if Juan Lagares isn’t hitting.




55 comments
pcshea
pcshea

Let's do something crazy and put Murphy at SS, and move Eric Young Jr. to 2B. Maybe, in this case, the value of these players will increase due to their multiple position eligibility. Also, the batting order for 2014 will look much more sexy and intimidating. And, if all goes wrong, Terry Collins can simply move the players back to their original positions the very next day.

A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

He provided a much needed spark to the team. And perhaps, some of these new guys will do the same..but I think his spark is invaluable..

Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

EY will get no fewer than 400 AB's.  I think 350-400 is actually good for him.  He will get time in at least 3 positions this year.  I do not think he is an everyday player, but certainly versatile enough to play.  

dexx
dexx

EY2 put up a 1.7 fWAR from the day the was traded to the Mets until the end of the season.  What I found most interesting about EY2 is that in 48 road games with the Mets last season, he hit .293/.361/.385, but at Citi Field he hit .201/.265/.260 


I really thought his game would translate well to Citi Field with his speed, and he played outstanding defense in LF with the Mets last season.  To be honest, I would've rather we kept EY2 in LF, Lagares CF, and play Grandy in RF, and with MDD or K-New & Brown as the 4th and 5th OF, and spent CYoung's money on Drew. 


I can see a scenario where Granderson starts 140 G, C.Young 130 G, Lagares 130 G, and EY2 85-LF/5-2B.  THat would give him 90 starts, and with his versatility, could end up getting 400 or so ABs.

lindro88
lindro88

EY deserves more than 200 AB's.

metsfan130
metsfan130

1.  Chris Young RF

2. Daniel Murphy 2B

3. David Wright 3B

4. Curtis Granderson LF

5. Ike Davis 1B

6. Stephen Drew SS

7. Travis d'Arnaud C

8. Juan Lagares CF


This is what the lineup should be IMO (if they sign drew). Not a fan of C. Young leading off but I don't know who else to put there, maybe Lagares if his OBP gets better. It shouldn't be a question to put EY in for Lagares so we could have a lead off hitter. Lagares is an elite defensive player he put up a 2.9 WAR last year according to Fangraphs.

mets2014
mets2014

Unless they trade murphy, eric young will be starting in LF and leading off...folks stop trying to fool yourselves, but lagares will be riding the pine

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

EYJ is a 4th OFer. Chris Young is a 4th OFer. Lagares is a starter, unless he can't hit, then he becomes a 4th OFer. Meet the Mets, safe haven for 4th OFers.

dannym28
dannym28

Billy hamilton is starting not pinch running. 

l_g_m
l_g_m

He is a 4th outfielder.  That's all.  Can come in late in games and pinch run, pinch hit and play defense as well as occasional starts here and there.  Not a starter and not a leadoff hitter.  

David Martin
David Martin

Are you guys (and Maggie) at MetsBlog allowed to disagree with one another? Weird.


I rarely see it. It doesn't help any of you stand out as a thinker.

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

I'll bet real money that cerrone and the other 4 analysts are dead wrong and Collins starts ey opening day over Lageras. Young, Grandy and Chris Young will be the OF.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

He was one of the least productive hitters in all of baseball last season.  SBs are nice, but you have to have some kind of combo of getting on base and power and EYJ does none of those things.  I think saying he should be the 4th outfielder is everyone being very nice to him. 

mike23
mike23

Right now a 4th outfielder maybe playing some 2b at times but if Lagares struggles with the bat mets might think about shifting Chris Young to CF and putting EYJR in LF but hopefully that is not the case and EYJR can be a spark plug off the bench in situations and a quality 4th OF for this team (i'm sure he wants to start though like most so it will be interesting to see if he thrives as a bench guy or regresses). 

Brian Sementa
Brian Sementa

lets sit the league leader in stolen bases right........ btw whos leading off?????????? EY should play 2nd and move Murph to 1ST

Hodges14
Hodges14

@lindro88 Where?  This is the same guy that was DFA'd by the Rockies last year.  The Rockies were a bad team... 74 wins.  They were ready to throw EYJR away.

Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

i was going to say there is no way Davis bats 5th and CY 1st.  Than i saw Drew and realized it pointless. CY is here to add speed and power and should be the 5 hitter based on the logic of the order.  I still do not think Davis goes north with the team unless he tears it up in the Spring.  Duda is pencilled in as the starter along with Satin unless Davis comes in on fire.

lindro88
lindro88

You might want to break up those 3 lefty's considering two of them can't hit left handed pitching.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@metsfan130 That's a pretty sad lineup.  Leadoff hitter and 5th hitter both hit under .210 last season.  7 & 8 hitters have no major league track record of hitting at all.

l_g_m
l_g_m

@metsfan130 CY strikes out way too much to be a leadoff hitter... I would say out of those players that drew or murphy would be leadoff

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@nymetsrule Chris Young has potential to be a starter, and he was a productive one for years in Arizona...as for Lageres, his defense alone makes him a starter regardless of if he hits

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@dannym28He's being looked at to start. Unlike the mets, they won't continue to trot out someone hitting below .200 for very long.

Andrew Wharton
Andrew Wharton

 If I say I see EY as the #3 starter, does that make me stand out as a thinker? 

;)

Andrew Vazzano
Andrew Vazzano moderator

 Quite often, actually... just not here.

vvmayshays
vvmayshays

@BringBackDaveTelghe 

Scott Hairston could be a better #4 with  Young getting even less time.  Young is more of pinch runner on a good team.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Brian Sementa The goal of the team should be to win...not to steal bases.  How many playoff teams do you think EYJR would find himself starting in the outfield?

beers22
beers22

@Hodges14 @lindro88  who cares what the rockies did?  Not saying he should get more than that, but the rockies assessment of him should have no bearing whatsoever.  Teams can be wrong, guys can get better or have more success in another environment.  Happens all the time.  How many teams passed on Byrd last year or RA a few years before?

metsfan130
metsfan130

@lindro88 Yeah well against lefties move d'Arnaud up. I think he will end up being better than a 7 hitter regardless of a lefty or righty pitching. I just have him there for now because that's where he should be right now.

metsfan130
metsfan130

@Hodges14 @metsfan130 And I think Ike Davis will be a lot better this season. Along with CY, he was unlucky last year, he had a low BABIP and hit a lot of pop up fouls that were outs that would go into the stands in Citi.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@l_g_m @metsfan130 And Murph doesn't get on base nearly enough to bat leadoff (or second for that matter).  We just don't have enough options and have one of those dope  manager types that think second base should bat second.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Eric Koeller @nymetsrule Chris Young is a lifetime .235 hitter with a .315 OBP who has never had a .800 OPS season.  He was fortunate to play in a great hitter's ballpark for most of his career.

beers22
beers22

@Mark Kelly @beers22 @Hodges14 @lindro88 I'm not even arguing that he isn't.  All I'm saying is I don't care what the Rockies thought of him, and have little bearing on his current value as a player.  U keep saying the same thing and it has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@beers22@Mark Kelly@Hodges14@lindro88I didn't but you can't assume he will be better than he has been. He wasn't good last year. 


Guys like Byrd and RA are lighthing in a bottle guys. 


EYJ is and should be a very good 4th outfielder/pinch runner/ backup 2nd baseman.

beers22
beers22

@Mark Kelly @beers22 @Hodges14 @lindro88 way to misconstrue the point... but for arguments sake, there are plenty of other examples of guys who teams have written off and turned into all stars... Jose Bautista, Carlos Gomez, David Ortiz, Chris Davis, just to name a few obvious examples

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@beers22@Hodges14@lindro88 People Passed on Byrd because he was OLD, and his awful 3 year deal with the cubs came to an end. He was going to retire if he didn't make the mets. 


RA was 35. Had a 1.6 WHIP and a 1.5 WHIP in 2 years and 200 innings with the Twins.


You can't pick 2 flukes and assume it will happen to others.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@beers22@Hodges14@lindro88People Passed on Byrd because he was OLD, and his awful 3 year deal with the cubs came to an end. He was going to retire if he didn't make the mets. 


Dickey was 36. 


You can't pick 2 flukes and assume it will happen to others.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@metsfan130@Hodges14He also struck out 27% of the time. A career high and the APEX of a concerning trend.


He did walk though and some of his numbers actually look like he could break out (Lowered swing at pitches out of zone, increased Swinging at in zone). i'm still skeptical.

metsfan130
metsfan130

@Mark Kelly @metsfan130 @BringBackDaveTelghe @l_g_m I like that lineup if we sign Drew and he leads off. I also think TDA will put up #5 hitter numbers  too but the reason why I had him at 7 is because that's where he deserves to be right now. Eventually he'll move up.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@metsfan130@Mark Kelly@BringBackDaveTelghe@l_g_mPossible YES. Probably NO. And he hasn't earned batting 5th to start the year Right now. 


Just my opinion.


Since it's the mets and there can be no out of the box thinking allowed it won't happen. But my OD lineup would be:


Duda/Satin

Murph 

Wright

Grandy

TDA (with good spring) 

CY

Tejada

Lagaras



if Drew is signed I might lean him leadoff for no real actual reason other than he' the 4th most proven hitter on the team and he's not a 2,3,4 hitter.


Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@BringBackDaveTelghe@l_g_m@metsfan130Well he's also been quoted that EYJ might be starting in CF and batting leadoff because of STEALS. 


Also nice to see a .208 hitting Ike davis batting 5th. I'd bat him behind Lagaras

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@dannym28@Mark KellyYes he'll be handed the gig. But they will not hesitate to send him to AAA and they have said so Publicly.


This is a guy who hit .256 .308 .343 in AAA last year witn 103K in 123 games.