What is David Wright’s place in MLB?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Yankees SS Derek Jeter announced today that he will retire at the end of this season.

“I was fortunate as a young player in this town to be able to watch how Derek Jeter conducted himself on and off the field,” David Wright said in a statement from the Mets. “I’ve always been a big Derek Jeter fan for what he has done on the baseball field. I became an even bigger fan after getting to know Derek and learning there is more to this game than what goes on between the lines. Excluding the Subway Series, I wish him all the best in his final season.”

David Wright 1 (BARON)The topic on MLB Network Radio today was: “In Jeter’s absence, who will be baseball’s next ambassador?”

They mentioned Troy Tulowitzki, Andrew McCutchen, Mike Trout and others. They did not mentioned David Wright, who was team captain for Team USA in the last World Baseball Classic, when he was nicknamed “Captain America.”

It’s a shame, frankly. Wright has the same class and professionalism as Jeter. He plays in the same market. He has the same respect for the game and his fans. He’s passionate about the game, his work, charity efforts and how he’s a role model to kids. They were similarly productive hitters. The biggest difference: The rings. The playoff appearances. The annual national spotlight in October.

I wish I could see how MLB would view Wright if he had two or three World Championships, given his personality, the city he plays in and how he handles himself on — and off — the field…

135 comments
Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

There's a whole section of fans, who are casual fans, and watch nothing but the post season. They know Jeter because for 20 years they tuned in every fall and saw Derick Jeter playing. Until Wright starts making the post season the casual fan will not get familiar enough with him for him to be the face of the MLB.  Wright is basically unknown outside of New York, except to hardcore baseball fans. You think Wright is a household name in Iowa? Jeter is. Yes its because of his situation and he did get lucky to be on the Yankees, but the fact remains. You need to be a post season player on a consistent basis to be the face of MLB

gotham
gotham

Magic Johnson vs. Carmelo Anthony

David Wright vs. David Jeter

Is it really about the rings ...?

Magic Johnson could be asked to adapt the personality and discipline of point guard, center etc...

Derek Jeter could adapt the persona of a lead off hitter and many slots in the line-up.

Last summer, the home game against the Braves, started by Dillon Gee... Gee showed such resolve after his 100 pitch...

In the eight, Met's up 1-0, EY steals second and third.

David Wright had a 2-1 count ...

We just needed a sac fly for an insurance run...

The balloon just burst ....

By the time Atlanta took the lead in the ninth ...

Dillon Gee's masterpiece was pure isolation, there was no 'team' on the field in the ninth...

Yankee champions, Thurman Munson, Derek Jeter, facing a great closer in the ALCS or WS, down by three, and just rattle a pitcher with unhip table stuff, even if they did not foul off five balls, work out a 12 pitch walk or just a pitch down the middle to just aim a clean soft liner to center to get a pivotal lead-off on base ... Just worked the pitcher enough to make him human for the next batter ...

I think of Mets in similar situations: Ray Knight, Kevin Mitchell, Gary Carter, Todd Zeille and Robin Ventura ...

Did Ventura fly out to the track or get the grand slam...

He met his goal through out his career...

I believe with lineup protection and a team that can potentially win 87 games, David Wright will make his teammates even better, adapt to the situation, adjust his place aggressiveness, think about how the pitcher will be much more hittable for the next batters in the inning and he will look at his abat... Understanding Dillon Gee's 120 pitches, EY's stealing 2nd and third, one out, 2-1 count, 1-0 Mets bottom of the eighth, playing first place divisional team, setting up a more competitive season series for 2014 etc ...

David swung to hit the ball to Terminal D at LGA at 2-1 and 2-2, hitting with two strikes man on third... One out...

I believe David Wright is a work in process and when he us at his career end will be even greater than he is now ...

Hayward made a diving catch with the tying and winning runs running the bases ...

I never was more let down more in my 45 years as a Met fan...

How many years did Bobby Cox make sure, Charlie Manuel make sure they psyched out the Mets with small or anyball to come back and win consistently again and again dominating and just owning the Mets in September?

The Wilpons' just did not get it to educate the new brain trust who were not there before 2006 and after 2006 ...

It does not fall to the New GM and Manager..

Owners are the best historians ... And historians make sure history does not repeat itself ...

The owners either idolize or are in fear if the players ...

They must be accountability from the top down ...

Hopefully David's nuptials will do wonders for him as teammate as much as his star ...

Derek Jeter with David Wright's physical package, would he hit for the fences at 2-1, 2-2, 3-2, bottom of the eighth Mets home up 1-0, or just get EY home, show he had Dillon Gee's back, he had EY's back, (EY was making David a better teammate by setting the table?) that he wanted to reverse the Brave dominance of the Mets (especially in Queens) and be in the team process of dominating the Braves in 2014 and 2015?

drmetfan
drmetfan

David needs to win and perseption around baseball will change.

Muhammad Qureshi
Muhammad Qureshi

Wright is just as good as Jeter. It's b/c the several championships Jeter has which is why he so revered in this town. Wright is as every bit of class as is Jeter. To top it off for DJ isthe longevity he has which seperates himself from Wright. In the end, there's no question that we have our Jeter and we should be extremely proud of the fact that he is going to be our guy to wear the blue and orange for his entire career. As lopsided as the Wilpons may be at the moment, and with the comments Fred made regarding Wright a couple yrs ago, they still have treated him with class, unlike Cashman and the Yanks telling Jeter to find a better deal if he can. I can't see Wright going anywhere nor anyone letting him go anywhere else. So we definitely have our "blanket" as Malusa put it, lol. As far as Jeter goes as much as I hated his guts and utterly loathe him b/c he always killed us, all us Mets fans have to love him for what he meant to Baseball period. I can't understand why the media had to put a negative spin to his announcement. I mean the guy was all about the fans and the game right, so why wouldn't he let both appreciate him as he did them. He's freaking Jeter. Bottom line timing shmiming let the guy go out on his own terms.

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

As far as the "face of baseball", it's tough. Jeter is obviously that face, but someone else will be after this year. Could easily see it being Wright. He'd be one of two captains in the league, and the face of New York sports. 

I think Wright is held in higher regard than Tulo and McCutch, and Trout still needs a few more years. He's not the best player, but neither was Jeter. 

Zachary John Flaherty I
Zachary John Flaherty I

they mentioned tulo over david wright? gimme a break. the guy's a great player but he's on a bad team and is injured more often than playing. how would he be the "face of the mlb" ?

Harry Fournaris
Harry Fournaris

Wright had a competent team around him for 2.5-3 years and his #s were amazing. 2009 and on, after a certain "event" and lineup dilution, wright has merely been a "very good" player (with a broken jason bay and lucas duda as his protection). Our great ownership also thought building a massive park that went exactly against the strengths of your franchise player (i dont care if park is supposed to last forever and you dont build a park for a player - just build a fair park that isnt an ebbets field replica, but alas, that was too much to ask) was a great idea. 

bockers
bockers

Wright strikes out too much and is not more than a 20 HR per year hitter.He does have a lifetime average slightly over .300.

baseballnblues
baseballnblues

Derek Jeter...yawn... Yankees...yawn again. What Mets fan really cares. I certainly don't.  I respect Jeter for his play and professionalism, but it ends there pretty quickly for me.

tullydew
tullydew

"They mentioned Troy Tulowitzki, Andrew McCutchen, Mike Trout and others."

When did these guys get their rings?

It's not about rings Cerrone, it's about ability.

tullydew
tullydew

Wrights good not great.

He's not even a top 10 ballplayer in the game right now. Maybe not even top 20.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

I am as big a Wright fan as anyone but it's not just about rings. He's had a couple clunker seasons these last few years and his durability is officially an issue. Jeter missed time with that broken collarbone but that was about it. Every year with Wright it seems like it's something different now. No way Jeter was entering the decline phase at this point..

Stephen Gengaro
Stephen Gengaro

Jeter is very good - in my view not great. I think he was incredibly lucky to be at the right place at the right time. When Wright has had protection is his lineup he has been outstanding. Hope we see that in 2015+. I would also say a Wright is a better guy off the field. Jeter acts the part, Wright lives the part. Many surveys of players have noted Jeter as one of the most overrated players on the game

eric88
eric88

Wright better ask for a trade if he want's rings. He is on the wrong side of 30 now. Wilpons will screw him out of ANY rings.

11gilkey
11gilkey

Jeter has 5 rings and Wright has 2 collapses and no rings. You are a moron Cerrone.

Muhammad Qureshi
Muhammad Qureshi

No question, he is king of NY, w. Prince Harvey and Wheeler behind him.

gotham
gotham

I bothers Wright more than fans that want a perennial winner ...

Football is the ultimate team sport ... Baseball can be but as the writers say, the Mets are a team of individualists ...

I want a player who works on his craft, makes his teammates shine and makes the highlight reel with a clutch offensive or defensive play late in a close game ...

I could care less about popularity into the masses ...

gotham
gotham

Ambassador column is about nothing better today to fill our voids?

Boni Maroni
Boni Maroni

@Harry Fournaris  

It's really a shame that some of our favorite players have had little to nothing around them in order to make them great.  Great players need really good players around them.  It's hard to be the ONE.

Ian Carvalho
Ian Carvalho

@bockers  That wasn't the case when he was in a competent lineup. That said, he was still a 5+ WAR player last year.

hlow24
hlow24

@bockers  we're wondering whether he can replace Jeter as a "face of baseball" and you mention HRs.  Good job, because that's obviously why Jeter was the face of baseball.  

hlow24
hlow24

@baseballnblues  isn't that what we're talking about?  His play and professionalism?  Thats what has made him an all time great.  His play and his professionalism.  Well done sir, it can end there.  

Ian Carvalho
Ian Carvalho

@tullydew 162 game averages for 2 players below. Can you tell which is Wright, which is Tulo? 


R: 101, H: 184, 2B: 41, HR: 26, RBI: 103, BA: .301, OBP: .381, OPS: .888

R: 101, H: 179, 2B: 35, HR: 29, RBI: 103, BA: .295, OBP: .367, OPS: .877


Didn't bother adding steals or golden gloves, because then it would have been lop-sided.


Oh - and one plays his home games in a bandbox...

Harry Fournaris
Harry Fournaris

@tullydew  if wright had an even semi decent lineup around him for the last 5 years, it would be a different story. Thank our great ownership for that.

baseballnblues
baseballnblues

@tullydew I could say the same about Jeter, then and now. Way overrated player who was lucky to be surrounded by the talent those teams had.

gotham
gotham

Bottom line, I hate the Yankees ... Jester is a first ballot HOFer...

We can write to we are blue ...

Wright needs to get better as a teammate ...

As a leader by example ...

With protection or without...

Ian Carvalho
Ian Carvalho

@BringBackDaveTelghe  Wright has had 2 seasons, besides his rookie year where he appeared in less than 140 games. Career average for games played: Wright: 137, Jeter: 136

Harry Fournaris
Harry Fournaris

@BringBackDaveTelghe  those clunker seasons were on teams with absolutely no talent, while he had to adjust to playing in a canyon of a park. This joke of an ownership literally sabotaged the only good thing they had going. It's hilarious

vandelay
vandelay

@BringBackDaveTelghe  Wright hasn't entered the decline phase of his career yet.  He's just posted back to back elite level seasons.  The injuries are a bit of a concern now...but still, really it's only been two years where he missed significant time with injury (and he played 156 gms as recently as 2012).  That's not an "every year" issue just yet.  In terms of "clunker" seasons Wright's down years a few years ago weren't quite up to the standards of some of his other seasons, but they weren't terrible.  Jeter had his share of down years mixed throughout his career as well

Stephen Gengaro
Stephen Gengaro

Check out his OPS+ versus Jeter in years when they were 25-30. Wright's are better and he does it without protection.

gotham
gotham

Can you be outstanding without great postseason numbers, late inning clutch or just catalyst ?

Small sample .. True?

Did VP Bentsen to be say to VP Dan Quayle...

"I knew Jack Kennedy and you are no Jack Kennedy"

A am a Met fanatic ...

Jeter was drafted by Bob Watson, Gene Michael?

Luck, sure ..

He was born in family with outstanding emotional intelligence ...

How is David Wright ever in Derek Jeter's league?

How does he change the momentum of the game?

Make his teammates better?

Start game changing rallies in crucial rivalries with a huge walk or single?

gotham
gotham

Cerrone's job is to stimulate posts with our responsive comments that hit our emotions and my pain?

Ian Carvalho
Ian Carvalho

@11gilkey  isn't that the exact point Cerrone made? Any reason to tear the guy down on here, even if it invloves you looking like the moron.

Stephen Gengaro
Stephen Gengaro

Jeter has 5 rings because of the people around him. He is overrated and has been repeatedly voted one of most overrated players in the game by his peers. Jeter was very good, but below average defensively and not even best fielding SS on his team.

gotham
gotham

If Melo had LeBron would the Knicks win?

I think David Weight has been bored since 2007 his team game is asleep at times ...

I need more from him, protection or not, winning 75 games or ninety games ...

gotham
gotham

Face of anything ... What does the public demand first ?

Face of football?

Baseball?

Soccer?

Hockey?

College coaching ?

NCAA programs?

What are the top two attributes to be the face?

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

Agreed. Wright would be a beast in the recent past Yankee line-ups and park. He is a GREAT player. Glad we have him.

Get him some lineup support now, while he's in his prime.

Ian Carvalho
Ian Carvalho

@gotham  Is the part about him needing to get better as a teammate an leader sarcasm?

gotham
gotham

Great WS MVPs are in season stat leaders?

What about innings 7-9 game tied men on base?

Vs. 5-1 games?

What does your research say?

Does a crucial leadoff walk leading to tying run get to Baseball Reference under WAR?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Stephen Gengaro Also, Wright does play near "Gold Glove" level of defense and Jeter may be one of the most overrated defensive players of all time.  Grantland did an awesome article last year on him and just how awful it was over the years.

gotham
gotham

Jester makes the play when it counts ... On the biggest stage in sports ... Sure he is overrated ... His game IQ and EQ are without par...

I wish we drafted him...

I hate the Yankees!!!

Harry Fournaris
Harry Fournaris

@BringBackDaveTelghe @Harry Fournaris  how is it giving the player a free pass? when there was talent around him, he put up superstar #s, along with "taking his walks". The last few years, he's still "taking his walks", but also has to be the main power hitter, average hitter, and driving force in the lineup (while hitting in a park that is largest where his best power is- thank Jeffey!), with AAAA help. And if you think Granderson's 190 strikeouts will make a big difference, i have a bridge to sell you..