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What happened in the 8th inning last night?

Jeurys FamiliaJuan Lagares and Eric Campbell committed errors in the eighth inning, which lead to four runs, as the Mets gave up a two-run lead and lost, 5-3, on Monday night in Atlanta.

“When you’re developing young players, once in a while you’re going to have a hiccup, there’s going to be some mistakes made,” manager Terry Collins said after the game. “You just tell them, ‘Tonight’s over, you can’t dwell on it and tomorrow is another day.’”

Collins said he would not have a team meeting, but would instead talk one on one with the specific players who need to be addressed.

Familia let up a pair of singles to start the inning, then got a ball hit back to him for what could have been a double play. However, Familia hurried the throw, bounced it to the bag and all three runners were safe. Next, Tommy La Stella singled up the middle, but Lagares – charging hard – over ran the ball, allowing the tying run to score. Campbell then misplayed a high chopper for an error with the bases loaded and the go-ahead run scored. Dana Eveland concluded the disaster by walking in the game’s last run with the bases loaded.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

It was brutal to watch. What’s worse, the Mets were looking good the previous seven innings. Zack Wheeler pushed through a difficult first inning, the offense was actually doing something, the bullpen – which has been terrific – was taking over and all seemed right with the world. Then – blink – and huh, what happened?

Familia threw flat-footed to botch the double play. Distracted, he threw a ball to start next batter, followed by a meatball down the middle of the plate that was ripped back up the middle to Lagares, who misplayed the diving liner. Lagares is usually so sound, but here he looked to be rushing. He picked up his head to look at the runner going around third and he totally missed the ball. To make matters worse, Campbell bobbled and dropped a high chopper at third, then palmed a throw in the dirt that pulled Lucas Duda off of a first base… again, a run scored.

It’s hard to kill on Familia, who entered the game pitching nine straight innings without letting up a run. But, he has to make that throw to shortstop. He, like all pitchers, probably practice that play a million times in February and March. The same can be said for Lagares. But, that’s the point, these things happen with young teams. It’s why it is SO difficult to win with a roster like Sandy Alderson has put together. At the same time, to keep this from happening, it has to happen and get out of their system. Young players need to make mistakes, learn, get comfortable and confident, and that only happens through time. This is why they’re called ‘growing pains.’

In the meantime, I expect Terry to talk to the guys who need talking to. I also expect him to encourage better communication among his fielders before the game, maybe doing extra work on fundamentals in the weeks before the All-Star break. This is a time of year when tired, younger guys can become distracted and listless. His team is already on the brink of oblivion. This will be a good test of how he can keep these guys from totally coming undone.




260 comments
A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

Well fundy's is something that has hurt this team several times this season..brain farts will happen,but these errors seems to be a routine w/ these guys..

mymuts
mymuts

The late great Ralph Kiner used to say, after seeing a bad play "Not at this level" . Good teams find a way to win and bad teams find a way to loose

Joe Kurioo
Joe Kurioo

“When you’re developing young players, once in a while you’re going to have a hiccup, there’s going to be some mistakes made,”


Didnt this midget say he doesnt have time to develop young players like last week . #fireterry so sick of this dumba$$ 

Mark Martelli
Mark Martelli

They did just as expected. I was not surprised in the least.

Olerud42
Olerud42

I hope they fire Collins and bring up Wally soon, not because Wally will be any better (he won't be) but because I'm so sick of hearing about it from people on here.

robby
robby

The Mets are brutal period.  Get rid of that old man TC he's finished.  Bring in Wally.  Don't know if things will improve but there not getting any better with collins.  He tells them they have to play perfect baseball and they are playing tight.  I feel bad for the pitching staff they are the ones getting the losses because of the players and that imbecile Collins  UGH

Matthew Shea
Matthew Shea

Bad teams find ways to lose games. Bad teams consist of bad fundentmentals (check), bad coaching (check), and bad talent (check). The Mets have all of those things. Of course bad ownership/GM help give you the bad talent as well. Look at the end of the day if there pitching wasn't above average (which it actually is if you look across baseball) they would be the worst team in baseball by far. The lineup they roll out there every night is the worst that I can remember.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

A question for TC, How does the team actually prepare for a game? Last night indicates they must have been watching TV or something else non-baseball related.

sayhey24
sayhey24

The Mets organization seems to both lack in selecting players that understand fundamentals and effectively teaching fundamentals at the lower levels. If you dont understand fundamentals before reaching the bigs, you probably never will because you have fully developed bad habits. I blame Collins for his bad and irrational decisions, but I cannot blame him when players make mental errors or dont understand stuff you learn in little league. Fundamental habits are developed over years, not months.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

It's simple the tomahawk chant< oooooooOooooooo>  got to our Metsies last night.

Vincent Santiago
Vincent Santiago

One knock that HAS to be put on Collins is that this team just doesn't execute the fundamentals of baseball.  These players have a hard time turning double plays, they are horrible on the base paths with exception of Granderson and EY (but Granderson is the only guy on this team who has any real baseball sense).  Sandy gives Collins garbage but I'm not sure what Collins does to make this garbage into at least decent yard sale material.  This team is 8 or so games out and I don't know why they aren't 30 games out.  

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

I sure hope they will have Familia practicing that throw to 2B.  It's the 2nd time he's screwed that play up.  I mean they WILL work with him on this, right?  To not work on it is just inviting trouble yet again.

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

Could someone explain why Terry wanted Valdespin to be beaned for admiring a HR in a major league game. An impressive one too. Yet he thinks its ok for Tejada to demand Towel waiving on a meaningless ground-ball single while losing in ugly fashion. Or EY demanding towel waiving for hitting a two hopper  that is tossed into right-field that should be a 3 base error while losing. 

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

who cares the season is over.  I gave them a chance going into the pirates series, but after losing 3 out of 4 the season is now over.  Wake me up when Syndegard is pitching I'm interested in watching him pitch

stage52
stage52

I do not think Terry ever reprimands any player for any bad play ever.  That is the problem.  Everyone on this team knows that nothing ever happens after someone has a bad day. 

metsfan89
metsfan89

Matt dude just stop man. Making bonehead plays is not "growing pains". Thats just bad players who are poorly coached. Growing pains is what Wheeler and TDA are growing through. So this is not the same thing. 


Its really time to hold Terry accountable. I understand its all up to the players in the end but the manager is there so stupid things like this don't happen. And 3.5 years later with Terry they still do.


Enough with the passive approach on Terry. Tell it like it is. The guy is a garbage manager and does nothing good for the team. I am so sick of hearing all this "this will be a good test" talk. What have the last 3.5 years been with Terry? I mean seriously dude stop shilling (i hate that word by the way) and tell it like it is. Terry,Sandy, the Wilpons and the team are complete garbage and something should be done. 


Honestly Matt, if you were more real with us I think people would enjoy your content more. The whole passive approach you have against this team makes you look really bad.

The Third Lantern
The Third Lantern

The Alderson regime views this period as an unfortunate but necessary price to pay for an era of sustained excellence. Terry Collins is their Buck Showalter.

Regardless, playing moneyball in New York City is like bringing a Yugo to the Indianapolis 500. My favorite Mets teams never "hunted strikes", they HUNTED WINS.

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

I can tell you what happened. The last time we had this situation with Hanley Ramirez up Familia hesitated and confused Murphy who over hustled and had no business covering. Rather than address the situation Flores was blamed Familia was not given practice and follow up so he failed to execute a DP comebacker. Tejada stinks and should have at least gotten one out and even had a shot at two. Perhaps he was still smiling and thinking of towel waiving after his previous DP blunder wherein he wasn't even charged with an error. The fact is Terry doesn't teach fundamentals and we make the same mistakes. The appeal play at second should have been reviewed also . Terry is a loser and is ruining my summer for the 4th year in a row. I hope all the idiots who thought Murphy should have been covering with Hanley up aren't wondering why he wasnt covering last night. The answer is simple FLORES took the fall!

mets1973
mets1973

This is at least the 10th game that the Mets's defense has failed them. Murphy, Duda, Tejada Young have made costly errors. None of these guys is a "young player". I blame Terry for not stressing the fundamentals.

Agustin Torres
Agustin Torres

Going to the game tonight after last night... I don't know, I don't undestand why Collins still here.

legs3
legs3

You develop Youngsters in the minor league which is where Terry should be.  He can teach with no pressure of having to win in the majors.  Excuses at this level are not acceptable.  We are not bringing up 20 year olds like most teams do to learn.  It is a losing culture that has carried on for 13 years with no end in sight unless our pitchers are having an team ERA of 1.00.  Get real Sandy you are years away from developing position players and NY fans are not going to accept going to the ballpark to watch losing AAA teams you are playing.  A few yes but not 7 or eight in the lineup and a different one every night.  What is Terry accomplishing playing different kids every night and Sandy bouncing them back & forth from the minors.  You call that development.  

7up17left
7up17left

We are all very passionate Met's fans but every now and then we have to remember that it is just a game and life goes on...


Along that same note it was exactly one year ago that we lost the most courageous little girl I have ever known.  God bless Teresa Bartlinski who lost her heroic battle and inspired millions of people a year ago today.  God Bless you little Teresa, and your inspiration continues...

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

What happened in the 8th inning last night?  Real simple...


Starts with an "A" and rhymes with shmashmortion.

gregf
gregf

You really think the offense was doing something, Matt? Wow ... three runs, all in the first three innings, like so many other games, then nothing ...


This is the hardest Mets team to watch in my experience, ever ...

Michael Zvirblis
Michael Zvirblis

Get the whole team out of NY already. Daily nonsense that they actually have the nerve to repeat on WOR AM each evening.

pcubed
pcubed

“When you’re developing young players, once in a while you’re going to have a hiccup, there’s going to be some mistakes made,” manager Terry Collins said after the game. 


This guy, Terry Collins, is really feeling it - as he should. A week ago, he stated that he wants WINS over DEVELOPMENT.


So new week, new excuse. He NOW wants DEVELOPMENT.


He is a joke of a manager. Can't hold a press conference without stuttering or choking over his own words.


#FIRETERRY

#FREEWALLY

Sal
Sal

It's amazing the lengths people in this organization, and in the media, go to just to protect people like Terry Collins and Sandy Alderson from the consequences of their own results.


I can't think of any other time where a batch of front office people and coaches failed so miserably over so many years in NY without calls for their firing.


The talent may suck but that's not an argument to keep the same group of people around who created the roster and manage it daily.



Vincent Pocino
Vincent Pocino

After that debacle, I decided that last night was my last game of this season. I can't take it anymore. I don't know it has been asked before but how many games better would they be with Nelson Cruz. I really don't think it is too much of a stretch to think they would be 2 games out of first. The dregs that they bring up to the plate night after night is just sickening. 

Donald Baraf
Donald Baraf

The first people who should go are "us".  If we attend we contribute to this mess.  Time to vote with our feet and our eyeballs.  At some point this will affect the market value of this team and then maybe the tone deaf will begin to hear.


D
D

@Olerud42 Wally won't be any better, eh? This is a Certain Fact? interesting

ken1010
ken1010

@sayhey24 It's fundamentals, but its also "panic," rushing throws before feet are set (Familia) or rushing to throw before you have the ball (Lagares and Campbell.)  They are playing tight, worried, trying to do to much.  They need a fresh start, a new voice, and Terry has to go.

Ray Carattini
Ray Carattini

@Joe Wenzel  You tip your cap to the other team if their opposing hitter beats your best pitcher throwing his best pitch...you tip your cap when the opposing pitcher buckles the knees of your best hitter with his best pitch...you DON'T tip your cap when your sucky players panic into making stupid errors that costs your team a win that you had in your back pocket. Terry Collins is such a baseball mental midget that it's becoming epidemic amongst the players.

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

@Joe Wenzel This team makes the same mistakes over and over and they panic in tight situations.

Ray Carattini
Ray Carattini

@legs3  with the way he handled Wilmer Flores, Terry needs to be quarantined from any and all young players. Period.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@gregf  You weren't watching in the early 90's then.  Or the late 70's, or the early 60's.

Joe Kurioo
Joe Kurioo

@pcubed you what the sad part is non of these so called "reporters" doesnt have the balls to ask him questions like that either smh 

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

@ken1010 Terry makes em tight one bad play and you sit. Swing at too many first pitches you sit!

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

@Joe Wenzel  I can understand the excitement of a big hit but when EYjr. needed the towel waive for a 3 base error that was obsured. Win and cheer!!

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

@Joe Wenzel @Eric Hack He isnt the only one Torres flubbed a few Mejia also. The rundown was pathetic. My 85 year old father said "no one escapes a rundown when the ball isn't dropped". What about the back hand flips from Murph and DW. What about Terry giving away a run when the pirates had 1st and 3rd 2 outs and no one near 3rd. Terry doesn't understand odds percentage and probability.

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

@Michael Frias @gregf I saw the 70s early 80's still played hard and didnt have the pitching these guys have. Remember we traded for Sid Darling Ojeda and Gooden came up. so without any pitching they fought hustled and played baseball as it should be played they just couldnt get by with Falcone Randy Jones a lame Swan etc.