Travis d'Arnaud swings

Travis d’Arnaud is still struggling, scout says he doesn’t look strong

Mets C Travis d’Arnaud is hitting just .190 with three extra base hits and four RBI this season.

He hit just .202 in 32 games last season.

“I haven’t liked him so far,” a scout recently said about dArnaud (Baseball Prospectus, Apr. 25). “He hasn’t looked good defensively, including allowing a bunch of passed balls. I’ve seen him miss some fastballs, almost like he has a blind spot. It’s slider bat speed and he just doesn’t look very strong.”

Maggie Wiggin, Contributor

D’Arnaud has been frustrating because he seems to go through long stretches where he’s hitting the ball well, making solid contact, but the results just aren’t there. The only positive takeaways right now are his above average walk rate and his below average strikeout rate, but those will only take him so far. … I still expect d’Arnaud to be an above-average catcher, but I do wish he weren’t taking the scenic route to that destination.

Michael Baron, Contributor

It’s frustrating because he’s been dubbed as the top catching prospect in baseball, yet he simply hasn’t produced in his first 150 or so at-bats. I wonder how much of a toll his injuries have taken on him, considering he missed most of 2012-2013 due to impact-type injuries. … He’s told me on several occasions in the last couple of weeks he feels fine, is getting more comfortable at the plate, and he’s shown signs of coming around lately as well. Ultimately, it’s the results that count, and he’s a key to the future success of this franchise, so that comfort must begin to translate into consistency in short order.


3:05 pm: Here is d’Arnaud’s OPS progression through each day this season (@AdamMets on Twitter):

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109 comments
Charles Gustafson
Charles Gustafson

Why doesn't d'Arnaud give his pitchers a target. Glove does not come up until last second?

Chaz Marcum
Chaz Marcum

Finally it seems the blinders have been loosed, I for one don't particularly care for d'Arnaud's bat or defense but I am sick and tired of hearing from these Met announcers always talking about how d'Arnauds this savior of a catcher and I have not seen anything that impresses me about him, in fact I think the Mets ought to consider moving this guy to shortstop and solve their own problem internally because as catcher d'Arnaud's just a Piazza wannabe but doesn't have Piazza like tools to be the hitter he was.  TCollins are you listen move d'Arnaud to shortstop, he has the arm for that but can he make the transition is the question.

melmet
melmet

HOW IN THE WORLD can met propaganda tell you that D'ARNAUD IS A "CANT MISS"  when anyone who has ever watched the game as a serious fan KNOWS THIS GUY IS NOT A MAJOR LEAGUER!..he is a wimp..has no heart...is an automatic out..takes called third strikes every single game....lets passed balls every game...has a pathetic arm..and is not a winning spirited player...GET HIM OUT OF HERE!...AND BRING IN A REAL CATCHER.

jenkins
jenkins

Just admit he can't hit and send him to the minors. He's not 6-2, 210  either. He's like a fictional player. Reports on him have nothing to do with the player he isn't.

Matthew Truscello
Matthew Truscello

He has not impressed me at All..... I know that he has huge expectations..... but right now I like Recker much better... He is much better defensively (especially his arm) and has been hitting better than Tda. Also, the guy is a beast

Kevin Bostwick
Kevin Bostwick

im not worried about him that much, but does anyone find it odd how TDA doesnt hide his throwing hand when catching he just sits it somewhat behind his glove now that worries me

A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

well it seems as of late, he's looking better at plate..getting cple more hits every day....He is a work in progress, brought up perhaps too early as some speculate, or at least as a #1..I think the upside should be fine, both off/def...just more time.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

To be honest I believe that Travis will be a good hitter, better than many people think. However he needs many everyday drills on blocking and throwing to second because rite now he projects below average defensive catcher, and pretty soon competition will take advantage of it. i certainly believe that Recker will do a better job as an everyday catcher.

Eddie McAniff
Eddie McAniff

Talk to Mex he says his swing is great right now

Michael McDermott
Michael McDermott

Yes, he's hitting .190-something... but that's after starting 0-for-17. So since his bad 1st week -- he's around .260ish. If he keeps that up, no one will remember the 0-for-17.

eavdr10
eavdr10

Gotta love the "scouts", all the hindsight in the world, but no foresight. Same scouts knocking him were the same ones lauding him a year ago. He's looked average at best, but he went straight from a year of injuries to the Major leagues for the first time. He is going to take time.

bigdirty
bigdirty

I think he has looked just fine behind the plate. i think he has had some pass balls very early in the year but since then he has been solid. I also think that the pitching staff has been termendous and as a rookie catcher , he should get some credit for that. 


I think he has looked better at the plate just a little behind. I dont think there needs to be a week to wwek analysis of the kid yet. he has a lot of talent. 


I am positive he will be able ot put it together soon. 

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

This article is akin to TC "resting" Grandy for the day game yesterday after Grandy took what we all viewed as pretty good steps on Wednesday night....


The timing isn't quite right.


Mark Virgilio
Mark Virgilio

I don't understand the comment about his defense.  Everyone has been talking about his great arm & framing strikes and let's not forget the tag he made the other night.   And with him catching, the Mets have the fewest steals against in the league.  He has proven to be a much better defensive catcher than we expected.

Chris Lyons
Chris Lyons

I'll take Keith's word for it tht he's having better at bats and his swing looks better over these 3 bufoons word

hashburry
hashburry

He looks like a little kid playing with grownups.  Not sure where those long stretches of strong contact have been.  If that' is 2 or 3 ABs, then sure.  His bat looks awfully slow.  It is a joke to think TC said he has "lightning" in his hands.  It is also idiotic to say he is a key to the future of the franchise.  MLB is littered with catchers that come in and produce.  There have only been a handful of catchers in the history of the sport that have been game changers, Bench, Piazza, Molina.  Look at Posey.  He has already started to deteriorate as an offensive catcher.  The Giants will have to move him or lose his bat altogether.

ametfanincanada
ametfanincanada

It seems like this story was held up in moderation for a few weeks...it's kind of irrelevant now. LGM!

cerrone we have damn backup in minors---we have to do shortstop---use pawecki as bate----and lagron for a trade.

metsnjets
metsnjets

When exactly when we're those long stretches Maggie ? You have got to be kidding me with that comment this is why your articles I never ever finish reading I start reading and by the time I get mid first sentence I've got to stop and move on . unbelievable stuff you write

likeike
likeike

I feel like he's been making better contact... less fly balls recently... just observation, haven't looked at the numbers... nor will I until there's enough of a sample size

Let's give it up for to the comments section for being more optimistic than the writers here.  Way to go guys



bklehmann
bklehmann

He's CLEARLY getting better!!  


My problem with this post is by saying one scout thinks he doesn't look good, but a) is he watching every game?  b) is he the only one?


I'm sure there are many other scouts who may completely disagree, but focusing on one brings in this confirmation bias that I think most Met fans would disagree with.  


He's a rookie!!  He's getting better!!  The pitchers consistently speak highly of his game calling.  Let him play and learn.  He's going to be fine in due time.

cj1786
cj1786

"It’s frustrating because he’s been dubbed as the top catching prospect in baseball, yet he simply hasn’t produced in his first 150 or so at-bats"......

Just read that over again.  And keep reading it over until you see the problem.  

Eric Carlos Torres
Eric Carlos Torres

Well I'm no expert but I wrote a few days ago on here what it is that I personally see that D'Arnaud is doing wrong. He is strictly swinging for power. His bat only moves through one zone of the plate. His swing reminds me of Jason Pridie from a few years ago. He needs to start going with the pitch.

72tilltc
72tilltc

He has started to hit a little. But Maggie he has not had long stretches of hitting the ball hard. You really know nothing about about the game.

Sal
Sal

This D'Arnaud piece is both too premature and too late.


It's blatantly premature to start worrying about a kid playing his first full season as the starting catcher on a major league team on April 25th.  Just absurd to whine at this point.


It's also too late to talk about how bad he's looked when he has actually looked pretty good the last 2 weeks.  The defensive miscues and most of the offensive woes came in the first week of the season.  Since then he's looked very good behind the plate and is making much better contact when he's hitting.  He's also getting on base and walking at a very reasonable rate.


Oh by the way, the pitching staff is doing phenomenally well with him as the catcher.


What the heck is the purpose of this piece?  It's as if you guys aren't even watching the games.

paqza
paqza

If by fundamentally better, you mean worse, then yes.

paqza
paqza

@A Pocono View_  Some hitters take a while to adjust to the Major Leagues. Between his offense and defense, d'Arnaud is already an improvement over Buck/Blanco/Thole/Barajas/etc and has a much higher ceiling. He's starting to hit the ball with some authority and will likely finish the year with a .260 or better average and something around a .750 OPS, which would be more than respectable for a an above-average defensive catcher.


He's not going to turn into Mike Piazza but we haven't even had an "okay" catcher since Piazza, so I'm fine with letting him develop.

paqza
paqza

@Antonino Plaud  d'Arnaud moves around well and is an excellent receiver (much better than average at stealing low strikes for his pitchers) but will need to work on his passed balls, definitely. I strongly disagree that Recker's the better backstop, though.

paqza
paqza

Dickey's got an ERA the wrong side of 5, d'Arnaud is hitting way better than Buck despite his early season struggles, and Syndergaard just made his strongest start in AAA. So yeah - definitely an Alderson gem. Traded away an old, overperforming player for a catcher with upside and one of the better pitching prospects in baseball. "lol".

paqza
paqza

@eavdr10  And even before hitting his stride, he's already an improvement than the guys we've had to see out there - Blanco, Barajas, Nickeas, Thole, Buck. Despite starting the year on a pretty long 0-fer, he's still getting on base at around a .300 clip.

jenkins
jenkins

@hashburry  ?? Posey is not deteriorating. I see him every day. He's a great hitter. Giants are smart to move him because he's such a great hitter.


The slide rule was put in because of his value.

paqza
paqza

@hashburry  Posey's doing pretty well so far, and 2 rings are 2 rings any way you cut it.

cj1786
cj1786

@bklehmann But what scout is going to say he looks good right now?  He struggling!!!!  I mean no S--- you "haven't liked him so far".... I haven't liked him so far either because he is hitting .190.  But as we know, its not about what he is doing right now.  Its about giving the guy a chance to settle in to see what he can do over a full year at this level.

metsnjets
metsnjets

He needs to also bulk up a little more the guy is so small

metsnjets
metsnjets

Ty I thought I was the only one that noticed that comment

melmet
melmet

@Sal I HATE TO DISAGREE WITH A FELLOW MET FAN....but sal...he is below average in every single aspect of the position...bar none. there is not one single thing he does on a major league level.

melmet
melmet

@paqza WE LIKE THE PITCHER...but d'arnaud is not and will not be a major league catcher...he is weak..cannot hit more than 200..looks at 3rd strikes every day....gives pass balls every day....and has a weak pathetic arm which is not accurate...

melmet
melmet

@metsnjets he is a weak wimp..he can barely swing the bat...it's too heavy for him. He's also very lazy behind the plate..at least 3 or 4 balls get past him every game..HE IS NOT A MAJOR LEAGUER....AND HIS ARM IS LAUGHABLE..PLAY RECKER!!!

nymess
nymess

@metsnjets  there's no way he is 6'2" 210 lbs, as I said in another post. Chris Young, who looks much more solidly built and muscular, is listed at 6'2" 200 lbs.