Travis

Travis d’Arnaud is good behind the dish

In late December, Zack Wheeler told SNY he thinks Travis d’Arnaud is “great behind the plate.”

Dillon Gee made similar comments on SNY’s Mets Hot Stove on Thursday, saying d’Arnaud is very good at receiving pitches outside of the strike zone.

“He probably got me a few pitches that wouldn’t have been called strikes,” Gee said. “That changes the game when you start getting calls like that.”

According to Gee, d’Arnaud has a lot confidence behind the plate, “which carries over to us on the mound.”

D’Arnaud struggled at the plate in 2013, hitting just .202 with a .286 OBP, 4 extra base hits and 5 RBI in 112 plate appearances.

“I think he’s been so concentrated on calling the game, he got caught up and maybe only had a few good at bats,” Wheeler said. “I think next year he’s going to catch fire and take off.”

47 comments
hankincolo
hankincolo

The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to  hit a round object, moving very quickly or moving away at the last second, with a relatively narrow round stick. 


Let's give this kid a chance to start fresh in ST. Remember, he lost a lot of playing time to a fluke injury.  

maxster
maxster

Flores is a better prospect as a hitter. Put him at 1st everyday and watch the production. Dump Duda and Ike. Wilmer Flores is your 1b.

maxster
maxster

He hit .202 last year. He fits right in.

Benji Isabel
Benji Isabel

What do these names have in common: Ben Davis ,Ben Patrick, Dioner Navarro, Jesus Montero, BJ Surhoff and Barry Foote? They were all catchers that were loved by scouts. d'Arnaud was sold to us as a middle of the order bat. Now he's being repackaged as a defensive whiz. I'm sorry but I can't buy hype any more.

Nancy Kurtik
Nancy Kurtik

Travis has had some freak accidents, not related to his position of catching.  His back was tweaked by a trainer, he slid into 2nd breaking up a double play and crunched his knee, and then an errant foul tip cracked the top of his foot.  It is not like he was injured blocking the plate.  I have seen him catch in Las Vegas and he is a great Catcher and a decent hitter!  Once he puts his mind to the job at hand, no one executes better than Travis.    He will come around in 2014 and I can't wait!!

robbie
robbie

Let's not forget he broke his foot in early April, wasn't able to do much of any baseball activity during rehab and only played a few minor league games b4 being called up to a struggling ball club. Your not going to expect much production out of anyone under those circumstances. I don't care who you are. If Travis can find a way to stay healthy he will do just fine hitting. Eventually he could even be a number 5 hitter but will likely bat 7 until he proves himself. He also is someone who is injury prone so if he can stay healthy would be a major bonus.

mystere24
mystere24

How about we wait until he's played a full season in MLB before we try to evaluate and draw conclusions about him? I'm the biggest Mets fan there is and I wouldn't know Travis if he passed me on the street after the cup of coffee he's had in the big leagues thus far. Here's something to chew on:


Player A, Season 1: 32 Games, 1 HR, 5 RBI, .205 BA

Player B, Season 1: 13 Games, 1 HR, 3 RBI, .206 BA


Player A is Travis d'Arnaud.

Player B is Mike Schmidt.


Silly point made?

hankypanky
hankypanky

I understand what Wheeler and Gee are saying. I wish I could see it with my own eyes. It amazes me how many bloggers insist that d"Arnaud will break out despite his bad showing last season. Face it. He was mediocre at best and lousy at the plate. I wish him success but I don't understand the optimism

Phil Mancini
Phil Mancini

A pitching prospect and Wil Myers from the Royals would have been a much better deal for Dickey


Andrew Herbst
Andrew Herbst

I have a feeling TDA will start to hit this year and become better defensively.

mets2014
mets2014

I have a good feeling about this kid...if he produces similar to LoDuca I will be happy, but I think he will be better

Poop-a-doodle-doo!
Poop-a-doodle-doo!

Last season was his first.  Let's give the kid a chance, maybe it took a year to "get his feet wet" now 2014 could be a big year for the kid.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

i believe if he stays healthy he will be good.  He has a strong arm. and i was surprised by his defense. his hitting will come spring training he was hitting got hurt in Triple A  again and went back alittle he will be fine if he just stays healthy that is the only red flag on him.


imissshea
imissshea

I'm not disputing d'Arnaud's abilities behind the plate in any way, but do we really think what teammates -- especially pitchers -- say about him is of any value? Do we think that if d'Arnaud was only marginal back there either Gee or Wheeler would have said so in an interview? Honestly, these guys may (or may not) know a good catcher when they see one, but I can't imagine we'd ever hear anything but praise from them about a guy wearing the same uniform. These are opinions are pretty close to useless.

Daniel
Daniel

Now, we need him good at the dish. 

Jean_Valjean
Jean_Valjean

Well, if he's anything like the player I saw last year, at the plate and behind the dish, he'll be back in Las Vegas by July on the Flopsville Express.

wooferson
wooferson

if he doesn't hit, he's just another backstop. really. time will tell and the clock will tick this year.


chasesimms
chasesimms

How HUGE would it be if this guy ended up hitting a little?

Frank D
Frank D

Moving forward, this team is going to be based around pitching.  D'Arnaud's main importance will need to be running the pitching staff.  The front office must provide enough offense so D'Arnaud's offense is welcomed, but not necessary.  

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

I just laugh when I see comments bashing this kid already or comments questioning whether or not he's an every-day catcher.

The kid got injured and only managed 220 Plate Apperances between AA, AAA, and ML.  112 of those came with the big club.

It's so incredibly stupid to pass judgement on a guy, let alone a rookie, after facing Major League pitching a mere 112 times.  Hitting just doesn't work like that, especially for a guy that's never hit at the big league level.

I don't know if he'll turn out to be a stud or a dud, but there isn't one person who could possibly know the answer to that given the context and small sample size.

md92468
md92468

His priority last year was exactly where it should have been - on calling games and building a rapport with his pitchers. There's no reason to believe he won't hit moving forward  - within reason. For those hoping for Buster Posey II, you might have to temper expectations a bit...

Far larger challenges loom at 1B & SS than with d'Arnaud...just give him his reps and let him learn. 

nolrog
nolrog

@hankypanky  I agree.  I was not impressed with him in any aspect last year. 

dave27a
dave27a

While most of us don't understand the pessimism surrounding a guy making his first appearance in the majors, after missing almost the entire year, in a barren lineup.

Which One's Pink
Which One's Pink

@hankypankyagreed.  He looked weak and like a pop up hitter.  Probably his pitchers covering for him.  No idea why the masses are saying he will come around, other than they have read 25 stories of people saying he will come around.  I am thoroughly unconvinced. 

Frank D
Frank D

@imissshea I would tend to agree with this if D'Arnaud hasn't been lauded for his ability to manage a pitching staff at every level.  Scouts, coaches, and players alike have all commended him on his framing ability and his ability to call a game.  He's the real deal back there. 

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@imissshea  "Honestly, these guys may (or may not) know a good catcher when they see one"

You really think a Major League pitcher wouldn't be able to identify a good catcher?  You're kidding right?

Frank D
Frank D

@Jean_Valjean Dude, he's 24.  He doesn't even have 100 ML ABs under his belt.  I understand as Mets fans that we get nervous about prospects because the Mets will try to sell us on less-than-stellar talent, but every stout loves D'Arnaud.  

Nancy Kurtik
Nancy Kurtik

@chasesimms How huge would it be if he made MVP and ended up in the Hall of Fame?  Could happen, you know.

totz
totz

Agreed.  He's been praised at every level with his ability to handle the staff and receive the ball.  My main concern with him is staying healthy.  He's got a good swing so I think he can at least hit a little, which will be a bonus.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Robby Johnson He was injured the year before too.  Rumors emanating from the Blue Jays organization prior to the trade had them questioning his durability,  that he was a good hitter but possibly too fragile to be an everyday MLB catcher.  And then he got hurt.....again.   Keep in mind too that he'll be 25 next month, not exactly a spring chicken.  Part of the reason he was ripped by fans was the unrealistic way he was built up prior to being called up to the majors.  Fans were led to believe he would be an immediate impact player, which he clearly was not.  

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@md92468 Amen dude.  And Buster Posey certainly looks like a potential Hall of Famer so far.  If TDA is anywhere near him I'd be thrilled.

Nancy Kurtik
Nancy Kurtik

@Frank D@imissshea Yes, at every level, Travis has been heralded as the best catcher the pitchers have seen.  That is a remarkable feat!

Which One's Pink
Which One's Pink

@totzthere is not one competitive major league team with a great handler, can only hit a little, type of guy.  Those days if they ever existed, are gone.  Mets have a full boat of guys who can't really hit. 

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@Macacawitz Oh for the love of God.  80% of your posts are just you playing devil's advocate looking for an argument.

Now him being 25 is an issue hahaha.  You're comical.

Granderson got beaned twice last year and missed most of the season.  Let me know of any rumors emanating from the Bronx.

md92468
md92468

@Macacawitz @Robby Johnson If it was a stress injury caused by the rigors of catching I could see the reasoning. But a broken foot from a foul tip is just bad luck that could happen to anyone. The far more important issue to keep an eye on is his back...he didn't play enough last year to expose any lingering disc issues from previous seasons. But I wouldn't connect last year with his previous history -sometimes you just get hurt. 

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Robby Johnson @Macacawitz 




Granderson's proved he can endure the rigors of an MLB season, he's done it for years; he deserves the benefit of the doubt.  d'Arnaud is a dated projection at this point.  He was an elite level prospect two or three years ago, and has done virtually nothing since.  That's why being 25 matters.  His value is not what it was two years ago.  When a guy who's rumored to be soft sustains two significant injuries in two years, before even making it to the majors, there's a problem.  


And I do think the Mets should send him for a bone scan.  Catchers are slow for a reason.  They tend to be thick boned and muscle bound.    Remember, the Jays were willing to part with him in favor of a guy they just released.  I wanted Pierzynski or another veteran catcher here for this year.  I don't think d'Arnaud's ready to take on the rigors of a 162 game schedule at this point.


And stop being so shrill.  The "hahaha" and high pitched whining make you sound like a petulant child.  If you stopped shouting and whining maybe you'd be able to see a little more clearly.  

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@md92468 @Macacawitz @Robby Johnson Maybe.  Another guy might have taken the same foul tip and gotten a bruise, for him it was a broken bone.  An everyday MLB catcher is going to get nicked a lot.  If he takes another foul tip and breaks something else red flags are going to go up all over the place.