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Tom Glavine had fun, has fond memories of Mets

Tom Glavine, who was elected to the Hall of Fame on Wednesday, said his time with the Mets was ‘fun.’

“It was a fun five years, albeit a tough five years at times for my family with me being gone,” Glavine said (ESPN, Jan 8). “It was a great experience being in New York and playing in New York. It’s an experience, I think, every player should have.”

Glavine was 61-56 with a 3.97 ERA in 164 starts during his time with the Mets, which comprised roughly 20 percent of his career.

“I’ll always have fond memories for the Mets organization for the opportunity, but also because I won my 300th game in their uniform. That’s something I certainly will never forget,” he said. “By and large it was a very fun, positive experience for me. I certainly had some down moments as well. But I’d like to think I was a part of them kind of turning the corner and helping get their organization back on track, as evidenced by the playoff appearance in 2007.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Ugh. It was 2006, Tom. 2006, not 2007! Jeez, I hate that I now remember Glavine for things like this, plus his disastrous outing to end 2007. As if the seven runs he allowed wasn’t bad enough, he later said he was “disappointed,” — not “devastated” — by the performance, which infuriated Mets fans more. He had a terrific career. I loved watching him pitch. He was a nice, smart, generous, talented, smooth and stoic man on the mound, and he contributed a lot to the Mets in a short time. Yet, when I see him, I can only think of that final game against the Marlins, which only supports the overarching association that he was a Brave in Mets clothing.




95 comments
SomeHighSchoolKid
SomeHighSchoolKid

How come its ok for you to remember glavine for one horrible inning but I cant remember beltran for one horrible at bat?

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

Matt making a comment about someone else messing up with facts. How hilarious is that?

Mike Lee
Mike Lee

Sometimes Matt gets ripped for little or no reason but this is really indefensible. Matt constantly makes mistakes in writing on his own blog and is going to rip Glavine for misspeaking? What a joke. I can now see why the respect for Metsblog is constantly dwindling. 

Bill Florian
Bill Florian

There is a backdrop to that really bad critical outing. In that frame, on I believe was a 2 and 1 pitch, he threw what was clearly strike 2. However, the ump squeezed Glavine on that pitch, calling it a ball. Glavine then I believe walked that batter, and then all the wheels just came of. Not an excuse since there are bad calls all the time, but this came at such a critical time.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Yet another pitcher we signed in the twilight of his career. Did he ever win one big game for the Mets. Probably, but I sure as hell can't remember.

cver
cver

Somebody watch the last game of 98 and tell me what nice guys Glavine and the gang were.  I believe we got swept in Atlanta.  All we needed to do was win one of the last 5 games and we would have made the playoffs.  Atlanta was already in, but they really socked it to us.  OK, that's fine - don't expect them to roll over, but that last game really stuck in my craw, watching them all laugh at us as we imploded.  


Let's face facts here.  Pitching coach Mazzone talked on the radio a couple of years ago about his "bag", which had all the little files, pine tar, vaseline or whatever was in there to help Smoltz and others - maybe Glavine - win all those games.  I definitely feel that Maddox deserved to get in, but Smoltz definitely not, as he was singled out by his own pitching coach as a cheat.  When Mazzone talked of "others", it's a little tough to pinpoint whether Glavine was one of those getting "help", but it's hard to not consider him even more suspicious than Piazza.  Glavine didn't have that bag in Queens and it definitely showed.  I don't think of him in a nice way.  While a lot of it is the rivalry, I think that my feelings about him might be based on more than that.  If he had been a great guy, won a ton of games for the Mets and brought them success, that would be one thing.  He couldn't even be loyal to the Br*ves nor they to him, which says a lot about all of their character.  OK, the Mets organization isn't very classy either, but just sayin'.

TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

Anotherr Met in the hall of fame. Welcome home Tommy. Dear Wilpon, time to retire number 47 please.

thegolden1
thegolden1

That final game of 2007 was the last time I set foot in Shea Stadium....not the way I wanted to see an old friend go out. Tom was good for the team however, he is a class act and deserves this honor 100%.

MetsOregon
MetsOregon

What did he do in his biggest (and final) moment with the Mets? He soiled himself.


Glavine's numbers qualify him for the HOF; but if Glavine is a no-doubt first-ballot Hall of Famer and Piazza is not, then something is wrong.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Cerrone, What is the matter with you....got up on the wrong side of the bed?  Glavine earned his spot in the HOF and mostly for what he accomplished as a Brave. I am happy we had him as a Met even in his declining years.

md92468
md92468

Sorry Matt, one is devastated by the loss of a loved one, a dire medical prognosis, a national tragedy...but not by a baseball game. The man threw a clunker, owned up to it and moved on. That's what you do in sports. 

Gregor Kitzis
Gregor Kitzis

To hell with Glavine. I'm allowed to hate the other team and I don't like seeing the enemy masquerading in a Met uniform. It would be the same as Michael Jordan in a Knick uniform. I wanted to beat him, not root for him. Apparently Glavine felt the same way when he ruined the Mets' season and it didn't really bother him. 

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

I don't hate the man but was not happy about the end of 2007. Great pitcher and should be in HOF. He was one of many Met killers who happened to also wear their uniform.

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Yeah, well I don't have fond memories of Glavine as a Met. Very much agree with Matt about the bad memory of the Marlin game in 2007. I was there and I was not happy. Also not happy with Glavine's reaction after the game. Ok. I'm done.

dooley
dooley

Disappointed not devastated? I cannot speak for all Mets fans, but I have no issue with this.

mets2891
mets2891

Can't stand the guy, but to be fair, I think his last start overshadows the fact that Glavine was pretty good when he was here.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

i maybe rare i did not dislike him like other Mets fans have and everybody has a right to their feelings pro or con. Robzilla i agree how you feel but until i meet a person i will reserve the right to judge him myself i do not need another person to tell me good or bad. even if they are a friend or realative or not.  People can have a bad day. 

robzilla
robzilla

I work with a guy who grew up with Glavine. Said he was/is every bit the jerk that he comes off as. F U Glavine.

Ernie Junkston
Ernie Junkston

Let's just all stop with the "woe is me" b.s. Stop complaining about the past and focus on the future, which I believe is going to be bright for us Mets fans. 

Elias Rosario
Elias Rosario

what are the mets waiting for inducted him in the mets hall of fame.

Mark Vega
Mark Vega

He had fun, certainly wasn't devastated...

Catt-A
Catt-A

I think it's time to stop hating hating Maddux, Glavine, Chipper et al. It's not like they were John Rocker who was a heinous human being, they were guys who did their best to win, and were very successful. Do you still hate Pete Rose for fighting Buddy, or Vince Coleman for running all over us in '85? (Maybe bad example since they're not the most likable individuals off the field, but you get my point). 

nwmets
nwmets

@cver Aside from the fact that you're accusing Glavine of cheating, he also had another 5 years of age by the time he got to Queens. 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@TurkWendell4Life Not sure Glavine's performance while a member of the Mets merits his number being retired by the Mets.  Braves, different story.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@thegolden1 Who knew moving into a new stadium would bring 5 years of terrible baseball?

cver
cver

@md92468 I am not even totally convinced that his performance wasn't deliberate.  This guy had not one shred of orange and blue in him.  That game was the beginning of the end for the Mets possible dynasty, which was very good for Atlanta.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@md92468 The whole thing is ridiculous.  Who cares what word he used to describe that game.  He knows, we know, everyone knows he had a terrible game in a big spot.  It's like the people who are still mad at Beltran for not swinging at the last pitch in the NLCS against Wainright.  Get over it.

Chris Wang
Chris Wang

@md92468Totally agree with you. No athlete is devastated by one bad outing especially Glavine who made the playoffs a million times with the Braves.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Victor Triguero It's a pretty big disservice to Glaving to mention him in the same sentence as the other 2.  This is Glavine's day.  He should enjoy it.  He had a great career and earned his ticket to Cooperstown.

rico
rico

@Haggerty Gilbertj sometimes there is no gas left in the tank.  I'm pretty sure that was the case.  

hashburry
hashburry

@dooley Stop being so mature!  Don't you know that losing a baseball game is supposed to ruin your life?  Didn't you learn anything from Beltran not committing hard-kiri at home plate after striking out in 2006?  It is a mortal sin (may even be part of the 10 commandments) that a player is supposed to crawl into a hole and flog themselves when they don't meet fan expectations.

Glavine was convinced to come for more money, pitched ok at the tail end of his career and didn't get arrested.  I think that is a pretty good run for a Met.  This franchise has almost nothing to be proud of, so meaningless little statements by players make irrational fans wring their hands.

metstastic
metstastic

@dooleyNeither do it.. This is a game after all.. not life and death!

hashburry
hashburry

@robzilla I'd like to see what people who grew up with you are saying. BTW, have your friend come by and clean my pool when he's done with Glavine's.

sean
sean

@Catt-A Rose?  Yes, and I wasn't even alive for that.  He was a dirty player and what he did to Buddy could be charitably described as bush-league.


Coleman?  Not for '85. Throwing a firecracker at small child while he drove off with members of the opposing team that had just cleaned his team's clock.  That's why he's not exactly my favorite person.

Larry?  Yes.  Not for being a Met-killer.  Willie Stargell was more of a Met-killer than Larry and I love Pops.  Pops never questioned my loyalty as a Mets' fan, never questioned that there was such a thing as real Mets' fans, never verbally slapped me in the face by in so many words saying my love for my team was a sham.  Larry did.  So the hell with him.


When it comes to baseball, I have a long memory.  I don't think it makes me a bad person that I have a long memory when it comes to baseball.  I don't care if anyone else thinks I'm a bad person because I have a long memory when it comes to baseball.  

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Catt-A I "hate" them as opposing players but have nothing but reverence for them when it comes to their abilities as professional athletes.

chasesimms
chasesimms

@Catt-A I'll say it again.  Cerrone is not an adult.  He's a child and his success amazes me. 

md92468
md92468

@Hodges14 @Kenneth Meltsner Yeah, people are pretty quick to forget the 7 inning 0 run performance in Game 1 against St. Louis or the 6 inning 0 run performance coming off a loss in Game 2 against the Dodgers that year when he had "nothing left."

cver
cver

@nwmets@cverYes, he was older by the time he got to Queens and had to deal with Questec also.  Obviously, the guy didn't do it all with smoke and mirrors, but neither did Bonds, Clemens or the rest.  It seems that Selig, who used to root for the Br*ves when he was a youngster and they were in Milwaukee, has looked the other way on Mazzone's comments and not investigated, which he should.  The writers should be more on this themselves, too, including who was it, Burkhardt who interviewed him and didn't bring it up.  I used to think that Mazzone was amazing and badly wanted the Mets to get him.  I am curious as to why he hasn't been a pitching coach again, since he went briefly to Baltimore.  I see that he is now a color commentator.

Gregor Kitzis
Gregor Kitzis

@Hodges14 @thegolden1 Me. I hate Citifield. "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot." Shea had fair dimensions and every seat was a good seat. The dimensions at Shittyfield have clearly hurt David Wright's power numbers, definitely got into Jason Bay's head (though he may have crashed anyway) and inflated Jose Reyes value because of all those triples to the point where he left but hasn't hit like that since. Plus, there are lots of obstructed view seats there whereas Shea had almost none. I have to sit in the third level where I can't see a third of the outfield and the section is called Excelsior??? Barf.

nwmets
nwmets

@cver @md92468 So he was a mole, planted in Queens by the Atlanta Btaves? Yeah, that sounds plausible. It's not like the Mets managed to get their asses kicked by the Braves before that. Oh, wait...

md92468
md92468

@Hodges14 @md92468 Exactly. I remember Joe Montana saying that what made great players who they were was their ability to put the last play behind them, good or bad. Kind of sad when fans can't do that after 5-6 years. 

rico
rico

@BringBackDaveTelghe @Catt-A But now that they are no longer opposing players but retired players who say nice things about our team, NY and the org hard to hate them. Ya Ralph Branca and Bobby Thompson became great friends.  Hey Chipper named his first child after our stadium. 


Those guys were great and deserve the accolades, as much as I hate the freakin Braves.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sylow59 @rico @Haggerty Gilbertj It was one bad game.  He obviously wasn't the same pitcher with the Mets that he had been with the Braves but he did have his moments with the Mets.  He pitched very well in the post season in 2006.  Not sure why there is controversy surrounding this guy.  He's certainly qualified to be elected the HOF.