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This is the year Noah Syndergaard learned to pitch

21-year-old Mets RHP prospect Noah Syndergaard will remember 2014 as the year he learned to pitch, he told reporter Jared Diamond (Wall Street Journal, July 18).

“I feel like my stuff is there from the physical part of the game,” Syndergaard said, according to Diamond. “It’s just all about the mental aspect.”

He is 7-5 with a 5.74 ERA in 17 starts for Triple-A Las Vegas. He has thrown 84 2/3 innings, leaving him to make around 10-12 starts this year, given the innings limit the team set for him in Spring Training.

Syndergaard dropped from being the third best right-handed pitching prospect down to fifth on MLB.com’s recent mid-season top prospect list.

He said he was constantly thinking about the Super Two cut-off date earlier this summer, since it may have indicated a promotion to Queens sooner than later. However, so far, Syndergaard is still pitching in Las Vegas, unlike Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler, who were promoted almost immediately during their first summer’s in Triple-A.

“They were older and more polished pitchers,” Syndergaard told Diamond. “They were ready at that point. And right now, I don’t think I’m ready.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

July 17: My hunch is that we’ll see Syndergaard starting for the Mets some time in August. I realize that in late June, Terry Collins told reporters it is possible Syndergaard may not see big-league action this year, despite starting the season ranked by MLB.com as the third-best right-handed pitching prospect in baseball >> Read more.




30 comments
Haig Mathosian
Haig Mathosian

I read in a Chicago paper that they're actively pursuing him. I say we should trade him, I think he's injury prone

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

No reason to bring him up this season. He is not ready. Plus there are other pitchers (Montero) who are more ready and could use the starts at the ML level.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Montero could still become  a decent starter..every pitcher is not good right away.

cver
cver

How does Montero's few starts affect his Super Two clock, etc.?  If he stays down the remainder of the season, have they already started the clock or it just depends on total time, not if he's up and down or will there still be an incentive to hold him back next season again, for example (even though they didn't this season)?

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Minor league baseball is not always about results. It's about development. Sometimes a pitcher can be working on a certain pitch and can be hit in the process. Or he could be working on location instead of how many batters he can strike out. Syndergaard is saying he is evolving from being a thrower to being a pitcher. It's what being a young player is all about.

cver
cver

Dang - this is exciting!  I love that Viola and Backman are taking care of him, even though Vegas is a really weird place for anyone to learn the game and there is more chance of him getting out of whack or hurt there.  As a matter of fact, not much has been said lately about it, but it might just be that this is exactly why he is out of whack - well, in addition to what has been mentioned in the article - the focus and knowledge of how to pitch.  Montero hopefully will get back where he needs to be also.  It is excellent that at least, the dark horse DeGrom blossomed and is very much prosperring in the bigs.  I trust Viola with our young pitchers without question.  I don't trust Collins and only half trust Warthen, although Warthen has to be given some of the credit too, I'll reluctantly admit.  And then we have The Vulture Phil Regan lower down in the minors helping the younger kids, which is also a very good organizational situation.  I will give credit to the front office for that.  Not sure about all the other problems though.

mets2891
mets2891

He's been awful this year, and part of the blame has to go to the Mets idiotic move to Las Vegas.  Only the Mets, whose whole rebuilding plan is centered around young pitching would have their AAA team in that hitters paradise.

Ron W. Davis
Ron W. Davis

i am not concerned about his high ERA being in the Pacific coast league . if a Mets fan is a true realastic we were not going to be a playoff team so if we keep him down or put him in the majors its still pitching 34 starts or almost i am fine if we don't call him up i would not rush him up . He may still come up but right now i am not think we are losing this year because he is not here. If Colon does get traded then who knows if he does not get called up in August or Sept but right now i do not feel we got to bring him up now.

Christopher Soto
Christopher Soto

I agree with the August time frame.....despite the poor record and ERA results he is still K'ing over 20% of batters faced while walking just under 5%.....opponents have a highly unsustainable .442 Batting Average of Balls in Play against him which is indicative of the PCL effect on pitchers.


The team will trade Colon late July or in August and Thor will come up and replace him.

Sal
Sal

That's a very mature outlook on his own development.  Very encouraging to see that from a young guy who you know is just dying to get a crack at the majors.


Kudos to the AAA staff as well.

tullydew
tullydew

Keep him in the minors and let him learn to pitch. He doesn't deserve a promotion and would hurt his growth.

specialk
specialk

@Haig Mathosian And he's injury prone because he had one injury this year that turned out to be nothing much more than some soreness and then got hit in a homeplate collision in a fluke play and is now back healthy? Besides that where are you basing that statement from? Seriously where do you people come from?

Craig Mitchell
Craig Mitchell

@imjimmybx interesting. How do you come to the conclusion that nothing is to be learned in AAA? That seems like a huge statement to just pull out of the deck.

p8erbaghad
p8erbaghad

@cver It's based on major league service time, not time on the 40 man roster.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@cver How does super 2 affect you as a fan will the mets lower or increase payroll based on super 2 or lower or increase ticket prices?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

He hasn't been awful.

The results have been bad, which are absolutely meaningless since all but three of his starts have been at cartoon ballparks. He'll be fine.

vimets
vimets

@mets2891 Do you know why the Mets have there AAA team playing in Vegas?

jenkins
jenkins

@Christopher Soto Agree with this. Really not worried about Thor in the slightest. He'll flash greatness this year and then really show his stuff next year.

cver
cver

@Mexpert @cver Good one!  Maybe I have become a little modified in my thinking by all of this or I'm just wondering based on the realities of our cheap owners:)  I am appalled by all that you mention though.  As far as Montero, as some of you on here already know, I am a huge fan and was a bit disappointed that he wasn't more consistent, but was very excited that they did bring him up and he had a few good starts early on.  The injury was too bad.  At least we see from Mejia that even a case like that, where he was very mishandled, a talent like that can come back.  And that's interesting - because more often with the Mets, they mishandle a player and then he blossoms somewhere else.  This might be a good example with Mejia of a player who was mishandled by Omar and seems so far to be doing well with Alderson - not sure, but Mejia's great right now.  If Montero is as good as I imagine he will be, I hope we keep him.  Not sure who we should ship out.  Niese was the guy I wanted gone, since he has an injury, but he's been so good, even injured, that it's hard to let him go.  I still think if we can get a lot back, trading Niese should be considered.  And NOT MURPHY - SIGN HIM!

hankypanky
hankypanky

I read that the Mets were kicked out of Buffalo and that Vegas was the only spot open.

vimets
vimets

@Max Debby It wasn't a financial reason.

cver
cver

@imjimmybx Simpleton?  That's kind of harsh.  Good point about how it turns out that Mejia was meant to be in the bullpen, but don't forget that how they handled him, going back and forth, is probably what blew his arm out back then, requiring the surgery, well before Sandy.  And I don't think Mejia was FORCED into the starting rotation by Sandy, as you say, since Mejia had stated until only several weeks ago that he is a starter and would rather start in the minors than be a reliever in the majors.  Yes, that was onlly weeks ago. Things change in a hurry.  I just hope he will continue to be healthy and successful now.

upstater
upstater

@vimets Translation: No other minor league AAA franchise wanted to drop their current affiliation to be part of the Mets organization. Not Syracuse, not Rochester, not Buffalo, not Norfolk. No one. Guess that says it all for Sandy's so-called rebuilding of their minor-league development system.