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There may be a trade market for Bartolo Colon

In the event Sandy Alderson decides to trade Bartolo Colon, the Orioles, Mariners, Blue Jays and Brewers might be a good fit, according to baseball insider Peter Gammons (Gammons Daily, June 12).

These four teams do not have enough talent to trade for David Price, Jeff Samardzija or Justin Masterson, Gammons says, but Colon could be in their price range.

“What you worry about with Colon is when he breaks down,” an American League GM told Gammons.

The 41-year-old Colon will earn $9 million this season, and is due $11 million in 2015.

The Mets are 3-1 in his last four starts, during which he has a 1.61 ERA and 23 strikeouts in 28 innings pitched.




129 comments
Jack Kratzer
Jack Kratzer

Do it! Have mercy on David Wright too!!!

Joel Beck
Joel Beck

Trade him for a bag of balls. Get rid of this fat pig immediately he can help another team

Sean Garcia
Sean Garcia

Listen if we get anything for colon that's fine with me if anyone is willing to take his salary at his age they can give us a prospect or a decent outfielder or maybe a utility player that can hit a little more consistently

Muhammad Qureshi
Muhammad Qureshi

Great, another trade Sandy will make for no one good, other than a reliever.

losmets86
losmets86

I would package Colon with d'Arnaud and some prospects, like Montero, Matz and Low A player for Tulowitski or maybe Longoria or Braun  The Mets need to use some of the young surplus of pitching because there still doesn't seem to be any hitters coming up anytime soon.  I know some of you may think i am dreaming but they need to make something happened.  Wright is a 5th or 6th place hitter now, Murphy is in the right spot but everyone else is interchangeable.  We need stability in the lineup and we are not getting it from within.

gold
gold

Cut him loose. This year is hopeless and next year we already have 8 starters.....Harvey, Wheeler, Gee, Niese, De Grom, Montero, Hefner, Syndergaard

Rob Abramski
Rob Abramski

Should have used that 10 million on Nelson Cruz..... Could use those 21 HR and 55 RBI

Donnie Wallhangaz
Donnie Wallhangaz

Insted of trying to get rid of one of our better rounded players, y dont you think about getting rid of that wasted $7+ million we flushed down the drain in chris young. Get rid of the least contributing players and keep our positive players n maybe just maybe we might have a chance at a winning season. But knowing sandy hes already got trades worked up for him n a few other awesome guys we have and got the paperwork already signed and everything...

nhmetsfan
nhmetsfan

Trade Duda to AL for a reasonable reliever (young lefties on Astros are feasible)

Play Flores and Campbell at first

Trade Colon for a reasonable outfielder 

Send Chris Young to Summer Camp

End the year 74-88 anyway

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

If they can get a bat that hits .250 or above I'd take it in a heartbeat. Who would have ever imagined that Colon would be our best pitcher so far in 2014. That being said, trade him while there's a market.

Patrick LeGrady
Patrick LeGrady

I've been thinking of this, how the hell is the rotation supposed to look next year with Colon, Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Hefner, Syndergaard, Montero, deGrom, Mejia? There is pitching DEPTH on this team and to be honest I think I'd trade a trio of those pitchers for David Price. A rotation with a 1-2 of Harvey/Price would be equal to Kershaw/Greinke on the Dodgers.

Peter LoMastro
Peter LoMastro

I'm assuming they trade Colon and Murphy in salary dump efforts. Then we win 72 games and they explain that next year is the year we go for it. Then they will say the market was too high and we wanted Harvey to get a full season after Tommy John Surgery and then the year after we go for it and then they will have a new excuse like we have to wait for Wright and Granderson to come off the books and then we can play with the big boys in Free Agency. Solid 11 year plan we have going in a major market in a league with zero salary cap. Makes sense.

metsfan_82
metsfan_82

Mariners, get Nick Franklin and Austin Wilson.   You aren't getting that much for Colon.  Those two would be solid.  Outfield prospect that could be ready in 1 to 2 years with pop.  And a player in Franklin that can play all over the field, including SS, who can hit.  He didn't get a great shot in Seattle, and would likely do well with the Mets.  

Frank Tangorra
Frank Tangorra

You don't trade Colon for prospects. You don't give Colon away. He's worth in a package with another player a legitimate bat. All you guys think Sandy is going to just give him away. No that's not how he operates. As much as I am down on this team I expect a big bat coming via trade. The Mets have a lot of pitching. Let's stop talking about prospects unless it's Javier Baez who can be up this year.

Metsnow
Metsnow

definitely trade him now while he has some value....he will be useless to us next year. 1 year older and probably 20 pounds heavier and our young guns will be ready to shine. PLEASE!!!!! We need a SS, 1B, and power OF bat. Lets do it already....show some sense of urgency for a change.

Phil Mancini
Phil Mancini

On the bright side Met attendance numbers are fading fast, by the end of the home stand they should be under last year's pathetic per game average. This is the best way to force the league to push Wilpon out the door.  

Ricky Gurbal
Ricky Gurbal

Honestly trade Colon, Eat 10 mill off this years contract so hes only a 1 year 10mill pitcher and get something back it doesnt even have to be a prospect get someone good at short or 1st! maybe a better player to platoon with something!! we have too much sub par players on this lineup and we need to start filtering them out for marginally better players, people who will hit atleast .260!

Max Denby
Max Denby

Picture this:  


Let's say Sandy Alderson makes no moves to "save the franchise".   And we have a current roster with players he sent away (payroll would have to be higher, i admit).  But it's funny to think, that this team may actually win 90 games had he had made ZERO moves, besides resigning Omar guys. Speed and average in the lineup, a real closer and a solid rotation.  


Reyes - SS

Pagan - CF

DW - 3B

Beltran - RF

Murph - 2B

Flores - 1B

Soup - LF

TBD - C 


Rotation:k

Dickey

Niese 

Gee

Mejia 

DeGrom 


Bullpen:

K-rod - closer

Familia - set up man 



drmetfan
drmetfan

This is Sandy signed Colon. He can make a big splash here if Colon continues to pitch as well as he has lately.

Christopher Masiello
Christopher Masiello

I've been saying it for weeks:
Trade Colon

Trade Dice-K

Trade the Youngs (if you can)

Aaaaaand - if you get the right deal - Trade Wright.


But, you have to replace ALL of the salaries in return or via free agency this Winter.

Imagine this team next year with Major League ready position players in return for those players, PLUS two free agents to replace the outgoing money.

Im not thinking Colon can bring us a top prospect but if we were to get a similar return to what the Marlon Byrd trade got us I would consider that a win.....remember he is a 41 yr old overweight pitcher

AV
AV

"In the event Sandy Alderson decides to trade Bartolo Colon, the Orioles, Mariners, Blue Jays and Brewers might be a good fit, according to baseball insider Peter Gammons"

Please be the Brewers or an unnamed NL team!  Watching Colon bat has been my only enjoyable entertainment in this boring baseball season.

sandybgone
sandybgone

I am almost certain they will trade Colon...lower the payroll even more...if they trade him this season...why the hell did you even waste the money to sign him....you could of used the money to bolster the offense....with all the young pitching we had coming up, he was not needed for 2/20....chalk this signing up along with the botched deal for CY and what a bust of an off-season for the first time with some money to spend. Colon has been good but I don't think he was needed...

mustang66
mustang66

maybe they can work out a three way deal where colon goes to one of those four teams we get players back and make them part of a deal with Arizona to get gregorIus. if they could pull something like that offI would be highly impressed

metzfan22
metzfan22

@Muhammad Qureshi I know, like when he traded Dickey and Beltran for absolutely nothing. Oh, wait. Stop f-ing whining for one minute. 

rico
rico

@Peter LoMastro they're not trading Murphy, the fat man probably if they can get something good for him but Murph I don't think so

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

Wilson was the guy I was hoping the Mets drafted in the 2nd last year. Instead we go with another high schooler whose ceiling is a Triple-A relief arm and Seattle takes Wilson right after us... Go figure..

anymos
anymos

@metsfan_82 Franklin can hit...  .128 BA, .192 OBP,  .170 SLG  21 Ks in 47 ABs this year.

rico
rico

@Frank Tangorra I believe Sandy and everyone in the METS org is painfully aware of how badly they need a bat or two.  What they have to give up to get them is the question.


Stay tuned

anymos
anymos

@Metsnow Where do you guys think these players are coming from?

rico
rico

@Christopher Masiello Dice K and the Youngs have no trade value.

anymos
anymos

@Christopher Masiello Dice K has no real value.  Colon needs to keep pitching well to build his value- and you want to trade Wright while his value is at its lowest.  Plus the free agent class sucks and will be just as much a crapshoot this year as it was last year- trying to gauge which 30+ year old guy still has something left in the tank.

bigdirty
bigdirty

What free agents r u spending that money on this off season? Han ram is the only quality bat available. Who replaces wright??

The FA class this year is awful

rico
rico

he is a 41 yr old overweight pitcher with a 1.61 era with more wins last year than any in the AL and an innings eater at that.  He has trade value, especially in July near the  deadline when we see who is a pitcher away


Heck I think the Yankees would love him back but what do they have to trade? Nada, time for them to rebuild too

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@sandybgone The Mets signed Colon because they needed him for a portion of this season with Harvey out, and until Montero, deGrom and Syndergaard are ready.  I'm sure their hope and expectation was that they would need him for a portion of this season and no more, at which time they would trade him.  They signed him for 2/20 because that is what was necessary to get it done. 

The move was absolutely correct and is playing out as hoped. 

There are plenty of moves to fairly bash the Mets' front office for, but this is not one of them.

Peter LoMastro
Peter LoMastro

@rico @Peter LoMastro  I hope not but I just don't see them wanting to pay him after this year. They always let their own talent walk or deal em for junk.

metsfan_82
metsfan_82

@anymos As stated, "he didn't get a great shot in Seattle".  You are talking about numbers in 47 ABs in Seattle, where hitters go to die.  I'm not saying he is the answer to the mets offensive problems, but based on his minor league numbers, he has potential to be a .300+ hitter with double digit home run and steals.  AAA numbers this year .333 avg .438 OBP 7 HR, 7 Stl, in 135 AB.  Ok, its the PCL, but this was a high draft pick with minor league success.  Its too easy to dismiss him by looking at the small sample size in Seattle.  More than that, I suggested he be acquired with the Wilson, a highly regarded prospect in the Mariner system.  

sandybgone
sandybgone

@William O'Sullivan @sandybgone I respectfully disagree. So then instead of signing an expensive 41 year old stop gap, you sign an inexpensive stop gap and take that 10 mill and bring in a big bat...dont get me wrong, Colon has been good minus a few starts but the offense is so far and away horrendous, I would of preferred another bat

shea
shea

@William O'Sullivan @sandybgone well in fairness....you could make the case (coming off years of losing and cutting payroll) that the organization should have known this season wasnt likely to go any place special and that they should have started the season with the best pitchers in the organization...be it prospects or not.....and in that light Syndergaard, Montero, deGrom should have all been with the big league team all along thereby eliminating Colons need. 


But alas, the Mets were afraid the young kids might be good and successful, and that this success could (in a few years) cause the mets to have to go to arbitration early and pay more money. So instead they hid them....awaiting post super two status to bring them up.   Luckily the season will be lost by then and we'll get to see the young kids in meaningless games with no pressure. 

mustang66
mustang66

murphy is the best and hItter on the team where would they be without him. It drives me crazy when people talk about trading murphy. Trade wright if you can get anything for Him. murphy had 188H its last year and he will finish at 220 this year

with 40 doubles and 15 Homers not to mention 20 25 stolen bases. they should sign in long time now before we can afford them

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@sandybgone @William O'Sullivan If the Colon signing came at the expense of another bat, then I see your point.  But I don't think the Colon signing dissuaded them from seeking another bat.  Their shopping list was for two outfielders, and that's what they bought.  They were committed to going with either Duda or Davis at first, and to testing TDA at catcher.  Maybe Drew if for one year or two, but Drew wouldn't accept those terms.  Every other spot was set.  So I don't think they would have spent the Colon money on another bat.  I think they would have pocketed it.

Charles Gustafson
Charles Gustafson

@sandybgone @William O'Sullivan Doesn't matter whether your best pitcher is 41 or 24. IF you got hitters who watch fastballs and curves going dead center over the plate at the waist with the bat on their shoulder, the pitcher is going to lose. When a Met pitcher throws one of those pitches it is a three run homer.