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The search for a SS continues, Mets watching M’s & D-Backs

The Mets are still scouting M’s SS Nick Franklin, while also monitoring competition between D-Backs SS Didi Gregorius and Chris Owings, multiple sources told columnist John Harper (Daily News, Mar. 12).

According to Harper, Arizona would likely want Mets C prospect Kevin Plawecki and RHP Rafael Montero in a deal for Gregorius or Owings.

Meanwhile, as of late February, the Mets still had strong interest in signing free-agent SS Stephen Drew (NY Post, Feb. 25). They reportedly offered him a one-year, $9.5 million deal, but he’s still looking for more money and years (Heyman, Feb. 21).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

In regards to Franklin, I’m hearing from people scouting him that he leaves a lot to be desired on defense. He’s better on the infield than Wilmer Flores, but not as good as Ruben Tejada. They say he can make the throw to first, his glove is average at best, and he’s OK with the double play, but he struggles with positioning, where and when to be there.

“If Franklin is your every-day shortstop, it’s because you’re OK with having a more offensive-minded shortstop,” MLBPipeline.com’s Jonathan Mayo told me in February, saying he grades below average on every tool but his bat.

The Mariners wanted a young pitcher for Franklin last December, I heard a Vic Black, Jake deGrom-type, or someone similar to the type of arm Sandy Alderson had been asking in return for Ike Davis. I can’t see the Mets making this deal, especially with some injuries in the rotation and a lack of depth in the bullpen.

Meanwhile, it’s clear Drew wants at least a two-year deal, so he doesn’t have to be a free agent again next winter. The Mets are not going to budge until they no longer have a choice. Opening Day is 19 days a way, so there is still time to negotiate. Also, it seems he’s more than willing to wait to until after the June draft to sign a contract, at which point signing him will no longer cost draft-pick compensation.

At the very least, I suppose the Mets could go with Tejada and Flores for two months, see how they progress, and then look to sign Drew as a free agent after June. This may actually be the plan, if you want to call it that…




168 comments
Jim Flaherty
Jim Flaherty

Harper.... who are you listening to?    Plawecki AND Montero for either one of those guys.  No thank you.  Next.  

One of them maybe for Owings.  Neither for Gregorius. 

Sean Andrew Ingram
Sean Andrew Ingram

Since all of our S.S. options in the minors are years away and no sure thing, go ahead and sign Drew for 2 years. I mean we were promised this is the year we will start competing but the Mets refuse to fill holes despite our payroll being lower than anytime since the 90's. Thats why I patently waited 3 years for our team to be rebuilt. And great job on that, our minor league system is top notch again. But Sandy telling the players he expects the team to win 90 games but doesn't fill an obvious hole at a position like s.s. is unexcused-able . . 

Zach Ripple
Zach Ripple

Just a thought about the way the Mets run themselves and the way the Braves run themselves. It speaks very loudly when the Mets, with a clear hole at shortstop, don't pull the trigger on improving the club, even if it isn't for the ideal player. The Braves, facing the possibility of a rotation injury with Medlen, go out and sign the best guy on the market at $14 million to fill the spot with Ervin Santana. It's amazing how the defending NL East champs throw another $14 million to not see their team regress, while the Mets don't spend to improve their club that finished third in a weak division. 

I have long had the back of this front office and Alderson's plan, even throughout this offseason. But my patience is through. I don't want to hear about 2015. I really don't. We have a glaring hole at shortstop, and both of our fringe candidates at first base have been hurt pretty much all of spring training. They make no significant upgrades in the bullpen, and Alderson, who has promised a big trade for years for an outfield bat, has yet to do so. We have Wright, Murphy and Granderson as legitimate big league bats. Chris Young, Juan Lagares, Eric Young Jr., Ruben Tejada, Ike Davis, Lucas Duda, Travis D'Arnaud... none of them come without HUGE questions marks, and most have no past success in the big leagues with the bat (Lagares, D'Arnaud), Duda, Tejada and EY have only limited success in the past, while Davis and Chris Young are both a season or two removed from strong big league campaigns.

My point? This team needs a lot to go right. The strength is the rotation, yet every last member of that rotation is far from a sure thing. Colon is old, Niese is always hurt and has yet to show consistency, Gee was strong in the second half, but he has never had a full season of dominance, Wheeler is not a sure thing, Dice-K and Lannan are both far removed from big league success, and all the young arms (Montero, Syndergaard, etc.), have yet to prove they can do anything at the big league level. 

This team, I hope, can at least reach the .500 mark, but that depends on unproven guys living up to the prospect hype. And there's a lot of players that's attached to. Anything this organization can do to limit question marks should be done, and they just aren't doing it.  

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

The only guy mentioned that I would trade for is Owings, but it is looking like he's going to win the SS battle in AZ. Franklin is a very weak defender & doesn't fit the plan of a team building behind young starting pitching with solid defense up the middle. As for Gregorious, I'm not sold on him & I think he is part of the hype machine in AZ, hoping they get a top prospect for him. As I said, Owings is the only guy I would consider trading Montero & Pawlecki for. I would see if they would take Gee, deGrom & Pawlecki for Owings & give Montero a shot in the big league rotation. Nevertheless, I still think the best move is to sign Stephen Drew. He will cost the Mets only money & a 3rd round pick (5% chance a 3rd rounder becomes an everyday player). Regardless of the move, something needs to get done. Tejada isn't a major league player & Flores has shown why he was moved; his glove at SS is a liability. It should either be Owings or Drew, and it should be done ASAP.

Jon Mayhew
Jon Mayhew

"According to Harper AZ wants Palawecki and Montero for Gregorious or Owings"- Yeah a definite no thanks to that deal... Just cause AZ overpaid to get Gregorious does not mean we should do the same. At that price ill definitely take my chances with Tejada or even Flores this year and go after an FA like Jed Lowrie next offseason

dannym28
dannym28

keep in mind tejada isnt that good in the field

mi
mi

omg can we do something already. braves need a pitcher boom they get him.. we are such a second class organization

Joseph Grillo
Joseph Grillo

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH-talk is cheap-Besides David Wright-WE HAVE A GARBAGE INFIELD-WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER SANDY-don't trade any young players and give Drew 2 years-lets go already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

Nice bunt by tejada omg he's garbage !!! Hope the Wilpon reading this

John Vastola
John Vastola

Gregorius would be great but AZ not going to trade their top SS. Owings will be good, although I think Plawecki may wind up giving more offense than TDA. If they trade Montero it will be a crying shame.

MetsOregon
MetsOregon

Vic Black or Jake deGrom for Franklin? YES


Kevin Plawecki AND Rafael Montero for Gregorius OR Owings? Are the Diamondbacks smoking crack?

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

At this point, I think the Mets should begin the season with Tejada at SS. Just maybe, he can get back to the good player he was in 2012. No need to waste big money or make stupid trades for a "Average" rated SS. . . Got to have patience. . .

jlga
jlga

The braves suddenly need a pitcher and sign Ervin Santana. The Mets have needed a shortstop since last spring and we STILL have Tejada. We need a first baseman and still go with either Davis or Duda.

The Braves are a winning organization. The Mets do nothing except play their fans for fools.

eric88
eric88

Lets wait till June when the price and commitment goes up and other teams no longer have to surrender a 1st round draft choice. That sounds to stu pid to be true.

eric88
eric88

I read previously on another sight it was Pawlecki OR Montero.

John Cross
John Cross

The team does need to move on from Tejada. He doesn't hit and his defense is not good. Improving the position gives us credibility and is necessary to look to become a winning team. Please get something done without overpaying, or start with Flores and if he can't play shortstop then make a trade or sign a free agent SS after this season.

Shawn R. Babcock
Shawn R. Babcock

Maybe there was a day when you could talk about Tejada's defense like it meant someting...not sure we're there anymore.

I love to see articles like this that show the Mets are physically looking and not just paying lip service. It's a start.

I pray they realize there's a good chance Tejada will contribute nothing but negatives at SS. ...and we would HAVE TO go another direction. This team can't afford a full time SS that hits .211, has no pop, no speed, and makes errors.

Get on it, Mets. Sooner rather than later.

Franklin's defense is too weak for such and important defensive position. The Dbacks are leaning towards Owings. Gregorious is young, a good fielder with a solid arm. Decent bat and available for the right price. If the Mets are not going to sign Drew, he would be a nice pickup.

Alex Fustinoni
Alex Fustinoni

Good god, i cant wait for this nonsense to be over with! That day can't come soon enough! Only our Mets can drag this story for as long as they have and still have no clue what they're going to do. Got to love em!

Carlos Rivera
Carlos Rivera

Hey, Sandy

Are you waiting until we are 20 games under 500 in August to address the shortstop situation

hashburry
hashburry

Going with Tejada for two months fits right into the recent "plan" for the Mets in that they should be sinking like a rock in the standings about that time.

hashburry
hashburry

Plawecki looks like the better long term solution at catcher than D'Arnaud.  Tough to let him go.  

NYISLES
NYISLES

Lets get off this Terada kick.  Guy is useless.  All he is proving this spring s that he cannot hit  OR field!

Darwin Hernandez
Darwin Hernandez

Please don't tell me we haven't made a deal for Franklyn because we are holding onto Vic Black?!?! I like the kid but he is a bullpen arm and I would gladly exchange that for 10hr and 50rbi out of the shortstop position.

hashburry
hashburry

I am still baffled by the mentioning of Vic Black and DeGrom in the same sentence.  It hasn't taken much in terms of watching these guys to see that DeGrom is light years better than Black.  Black will always have control issues while DeGrom already looks poised and smooth.  Black is a spare part that is overvalued because of how bad the Met bullpen is.

lausenberg
lausenberg

Thank GOD you're not our GM. "The Mariners wanted a young pitcher for Franklin last December, I heard a Vic Black, Jake deGrom-type" You won't trade a 26 year old future #4-#5 starter or a bullpen arm that has had control issues throughout his career for a young, everyday SS with decent offensive potential? geez...

orangeblue
orangeblue

move on already mets.. tejada is talking to himself now, he's already ruined for the season bc of the front office talking about him to the media.


get franklin, get owings, get drew, whoever.. gotta give up something to get something thats the rule here mets. nothing is easy or free in life.


if degrom does it for franklin i dont hesitate 

Olerud42
Olerud42

Waiting is probably the smart thing to do at this point. Not thrilled about trading Flores or Montero for these kinds of pieces.

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

Shouldn't be in the mayors either lol honest shouldn't be he looks like ac12 yr old girl with no upper body strength

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

Rather go into season tejada? Give Drew two years can trade Him next year Drew good make defense a whole lot better

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

@MetsOregon  you would be smoking crack if you thought de grom could get you franklin

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

@Shawn R. Babcock Yes they can afford that type of shortstop. That's exactly why he's on the team

Jon Mayhew
Jon Mayhew

Yeah- this would be a heist of epic proportions by the Dbacks. If we're giving up two prospects of that caliber, we better get something more substantial in return than a mediocre at best SS. Regardless of how much we need a SS, it does not make these players any better... Sandy and co. is smarter than this- I pray.....

Kyle Fox
Kyle Fox

 Why is everybody forgetting that Franklin is only 23 years old??  He's an extremely talented offensive shortstop, and I'm sure that he could improve upon things like positioning by, oh I don't know, WORKING ON IT?!?  Going after a guy like Franklin would prove they're not only for real about getting better not only this year, but for years to come!  Also, if the Mets aren't willing to give up a Vic Black and/or Jake DeGrom type player for Franklin, our hole at SS isn't the only thing to be worried about here.


You people all asking for Stephen Drew are entirely misreading where this team is right now in their development.

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

@Carlos Rivera  He figures thats a reasonable amount of time to truly evaluate what we have in Tejada and Quintanilla

charlie duck sauce
charlie duck sauce

@hashburry The thing is you don't have to let him go - he's already in the system. Mets fans need to rid themselves of these knee-jerk reactions. None of these proposed SS is worth the valuable prospects in the system. Just go with what's already on the roster first before thinking too far ahead.

Jon Mayhew
Jon Mayhew

No way that is a true report. I love how we go from one extreme end of the spectrum in "Plawecki and Montero for Owings or Gregorious" to other end in "VIC BLACK for franklyn"

Bo Beck
Bo Beck

@lausenberg I trade Black in a heartbeat for Franklin, especially with Familia, lannan and Valverde headed to the bullpen. Franklin makes this lineup better, he may not be great out in the field but he is good enough. And as a switch hitter he'd fit perfectly in the lineup

hashburry
hashburry

@orangeblue  I love the way people are all fro Franklin without ever really having seen him play.  Why not Flores if you don't care about defense?  I am not an advocate of that since the Met middle infield with a bad SS defensively will destroy the young pitchers all by themselves.  It is amazing the Mets can't even find a well rounded second baseman.  Murphy has gotten progressively worse at second since he actually showed some signs a couple of years ago.

Ed Renner
Ed Renner

@Olerud42  Let's see how you feel when David Wright is hitting .270 in a couple of years. Will you agree that it was wise to wait then? You gotta strike while the iron is hot. Otherwise why did we sign Granderson, Colon and the world's most expensive .200 hitter?

crafalko17
crafalko17

@Olerud42 If Franklin or Owings are available I'd do it but only a 1 for 1 with Montero. If they want other pieces they need to take a lower pitcher. 

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

He wasnt criticizing. Just saying he saw on another site that it was OR. Get over yourself

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@Steven Matregrano @eric88  right cause you had no idea what he was talking about with how incorrectly spelled everything was. He didn't misspell sight, he actually used it incorrectly. Good criticism though, really contributes to the convo. 

Bo Beck
Bo Beck

@hashburry I have seen Franlin play every game since last year and yes even here in spring traing. Franklin is a more then adequate SS, is he top 10 no he isn't top 15 yes. He is a better SS then Flores more power and also a switch hitter. Flores is your next second baseman. With Franklin in 2 to 3 years your infield will look like Smith, Flores, Franklin, and Wright just make the damn trade already.

And before anyone says his power won't translate to citi seattles stadium is just as big.

orangeblue
orangeblue

@hashburry  i have no problem with flores and his bat deserves to be in the lineup, but if the option at ss isnt in the organization, then go get him already!!

Olerud42
Olerud42

@Ed Renner @Olerud42  Yes, I will agree that it was wise to wait then. Superstars are replaceable. The idea is to build a long-term, sustainable, good franchise. I'm willing to sacrifice a few more seasons to that end. 

Darwin Hernandez
Darwin Hernandez

If the Mets trade Montero for one of these ss's they will regret it.