The platoon-in-a-platoon at 1B will likely be a mistake

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

It’s the third game of the season, and the Mets have started three different first baseman.

The plan, they say, is to start Josh Satin against left-handed pitching, while starting Lucas Duda or Ike Davis against right-handed pitching. Terry Collins will play ‘the hot hand,’ he has said, when choosing between Duda and Davis. In other words, it’s a platoon within a platoon, and I see no way it’s going to end well.

I fear Davis and Duda are being set up to fail in this scenario. Sure, in an ideal world, they’re thankful for being paid tons of money to play a kid’s game, they accept the cards they’re dealt and we all move on. But, it’s not an ideal world…


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The one thing I know to be true about modern professional baseball players, having talked to more than enough of these guys over the last decade, is this: They love routine. They’re addicted to it. Like magic or superstitious hocus-pocus, they believe it is a driving force in how they perform. They sound more concerned with when and where they’ll play than how often they’ll play.

The Mets will face significantly more right-handed pitchers than left-handed pitchers, which means – more times than not – the day will begin with first base a total mystery and with Davis and Duda having no idea what the day has in store for them. I’d prefer to see the Mets sit down Davis (or Duda) and say, “He’s going to Triple-A, you are not. You’ve got six weeks in the big leagues to show us what you’ve got, good luck.”

Instead, the hope is that one of the two men step up, minimize the other, who will likely be sent packing, and the situation will resolve itself through baseball’s version of natural selection. But, again, it’s not an ideal world. The more likely outcome is they both struggle to find a rhythm, time ticks off the clock with continued below-average production at first base, and the situation remains unresolved.




51 comments
Mary Galway
Mary Galway

Ike Davis is by far the better player. Lucas does not have the ability to do the job. If you are going to platoon the players neither will feel like the job is theirs. Ike needs to have the stability to play every day.  The Bull pen is another sorry bunch. If the incoming  pitcher walks the first guy he should get a fine.

rob0166
rob0166

mets have made the bigest mistake duda sucks as a frist base men. Why do the mets like this so much. I have seen this guy do any thing in three year. has he ever hit 

32 home run and I can't watch this team any more

this team stinks again  what a great gm they have and ownershp . well they really care about the product they pout on the field. please sell this team to someone who gives a rats ass........ sandy alderson go sell shovels at home depot you dont know anything about  bull pen pitchers. can they get anyone out? what a joke 60 years old here went throught the  horrible 62 season but at least they had some characters. this team........ SIMPY PITYFUL THEY COULDNT BEAT A AA TEAM    Oh IM SORRY  SANDY  SAID THEYD WIN 90...... is that for two or three years??????

Jerry Mitchell
Jerry Mitchell

This roster is a mess....Fred and Jeffy are more worried about saving a buck then trying to put a good team together and bringing the fans.

bigdirty
bigdirty

"likely" ??? IT IS A BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!


You have to give somebody the job. Ike Davis had 2 at bats and then boom nothing for 2 days!!!! RIDICULOUS!!!

Ant Hanni
Ant Hanni

I don't agree with everything you write, but this is spot on. One of them has to be in AAA. this is ridiculous

Roberto Walker
Roberto Walker

I just don't see how a platoon is gonna get Ike back to where he was. Sit him down tell him he is going to triple a where he will play everyday... He has had no spring training let him get his at bats triple a and gain some confidence if he can't get it going in a month them he stays in Vegas. Move Murphy to first and start Flores at second as I trust Murphy and Flores in the lineup more than Murphy and who ever else starts at first.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

we should all band together and just off the wilpons .... totally legal 

eric88
eric88

We needed a 1B coming into the season and it wasn't addressed. What the hell is Duda doing in the Major Leagues? Satin is a career Minor Leaguer and not even a 1B. He is limited athletically. Ike is a mentally challenged as he can not sustain any success. Tejada is the slowest SS in MLB. Yesterday he was running on the pitch and got thrown out at home on a double by 30 feet. He has no range, average arm, no power, no speed. Asking him to be a STARTING major league SS is asking him to be something he simply is incapable of.

From a hitting point of view, how many hitters on this team at this point are competent, reliable. major league hitters? 2,3.4.? How many on the pitching side qualify 5,6,7?  We simply don't have the horses to compete. We will be in play for one the top 3 draft picks next year.

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

I like that it took Cerrone 3 days to realize that platooning a power position is a bad idea.  The rest of us saw it as soon as the idea was conceived, but I guess better late than never.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

Holy crap Cerrone, you are just seeing now that playing a different guy at a position everyday isn't a good thing ? This whole organization is a joke.  No first base no shortstop no bullpen. For 2 full years. I wonder how many times TC has played the same lineup throughout his years here. I'm going to guess 7 times. 

Rosemary Dearie Sochor
Rosemary Dearie Sochor

Unrelated to today's fiasco, what is that screen behind the catcher and ump. Thank you

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Hard to play the hot hand when the best you can do is a pair of 3's.

mets63
mets63

Call up Campell and sent down Duda ,Satin, Davis.After A week or 2

,play whoever is hitting

justinb
justinb

Sandy needs to come in and do what Billy Beane did about Pena and Art Howe.  Assign Duda to Vegas and make him go away.  If Ike is cold in a month and Duda is hot in Vegas make the switch.  If Terry can't make a decision, Alderson needs to make it for him.

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

So much that you can say about this team can conclude with the same words, "...the situation remains unresolved."

They have no plan, no direction, no leadership.


adam
adam

Couldn't agree more Cerrone. I think a player like Satin can mentally handle a platoon, the problem being he's not good enough to deserve 300 at bats a year..I'd give the job to Ike and send Duda elsewhere. Or play Duda in left because he's better then EY and Chris Young, which just speaks to the problems with this roster. This team stinks..

Glenn Blasius
Glenn Blasius

OMG....Did Jerry Manuel just enter the room?  The comment about "playing the hot hand" is so ignorant, Sandy should just fire Terry on the spot.   It demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about the sport.  Small sample sizes will almost always dictate that the 'hot hand' is nothing but an illusion.   

So now Terry has created a competition within a competition which will be decided on a totally random basis.   Pure Mets. 


ponzies86
ponzies86

Duda is ether a Walk or Bust seriously idk how people like this guy

John Cucci
John Cucci

Make a decision, pick one D and go with him against righties. We're splitting hairs between them. Make a choice and live with it. Btw, Morales is still available. ..

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

the problem is, both Duda and Davis are terrible, in a perfect world, neither would be on this team? Maybe as the season progresses one can be cut and the other traded? maybe trade for someone new?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

I fail to see why the Mets don't just say, OK Ike, you're the regular for a month, show us what you can do.

Play him vs righties AND lefties (Josh Satin is hardly a good player) and hope you catch lightning in a bottle.  Tell Duda he's a pinch hitter or bench guy for now and he'd be a very good one.  Decent power, can draw walks, etc.

Whiskey Sam McGee
Whiskey Sam McGee

These are the kinds of decisions incompetently run franchises make.  

Mont5
Mont5

Enough of the waiting game with Ike & Duda.

Mont5
Mont5

Is a bad bad idea.

nym68
nym68

Even if TC can't choose a firstbasemen I'd like him to do what Ventura does in Chicago...post the lineup the night before. This is done so the players who are playing can be mentally prepared to play, and those that are off can relax. Ike and Dude are perfect examples of players needing to be mentally prepared t play 

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

In general, I agree with you. If Satin bats against LHers that's about 20%. If D&D split the rest that's only 40%. No chance for consistency. It should have been decided in ST and then both got injured. This should not go into May. You can't have two lefty 1Bmen on the team.

testiculon
testiculon

Oh good.  This forum NEEDED more stuff to bitch about.


chasesimms
chasesimms

It really is nothing short of incredible that they are going through with this plan, despite the fact that it is just a horrible idea.

Unreal. That should be the Mets new slogan.

Just unreal.

D
D

what a Mickey Mouse operation this is.  Although that is an insult to Mickey

chasesimms
chasesimms

It's an embarrassment. Yet again. I'm going to blame Sandy and Terry equally on this mess of a situation.

Ant Hanni
Ant Hanni

Murphy Wright Grandy all we got. They say TDA can hit. They say Flores can hit. I haven't seen it though. Hey I could be wrong. I remember murphs 1st season, everyone said he was gonna hit. I think he hit like 240 or something and looked horrible, couldn't field either. I called him a bust. Turns out to be a very good MLB player. So there still can be hope for Flores? Tda? All we can do is hope.

jamets
jamets

Unless the way things are now IS Sandy's decision.  I don't think you can assume Terry is calling the shots as to who will play 1B.

adam
adam

Possibly the only team in history to start 3 different first baseman the first 3 games..it's embarrassing..it's really mind boggling management actually thinks this is a good idea..

justinb
justinb

@adam Sorry sir... but I am afraid the only appropriate response to saying Duda is better than Chris Young to is call you a fool.  Young is a fantastic defender and was red hot before the quad.  Duda has shown he cant handle the OF, can't hit while playing the OF (it gets in his head), and has admitted he can't handle stress situations at the plate.


Ike should be playing first, Duda should be in Vegas.

justinb
justinb

@BringBackDaveTelghe Agree on Davis... Duda should be getting his swing in the minors.  If Ike is ice cold after the month, and Duda is hitting in the minors you can switch them.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

@chasesimms add the Wilpons to the mix, personally, i think they are in love with Ike Davis and dont want to part with him?

Eddie McAniff
Eddie McAniff

@jamets  correct if you listen to TC he always says he has to ask Sandy first on every interview

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@jamets  well then Sandy needs to go. No person should be excused from this joke. Make a decision like a man and stick it out for at least a week for effs sake. 

adam
adam

They all stink you fool. Chris Young over the past 2 seasons is one of the statistically worst players in baseball. Spring training stats????? Really????? You're a clown. If Billy Beane doesn't want you, and the Mets do, that tells you all you need to know.

adam
adam

His mental makeup is 1000 times better? He hit .130 at home for half the year last year? The fact we're arguing which player should start says all you need to know. I'm just glad I took the under 74 1/2 wins because this team could be worse then the Astros.

justinb
justinb

So you don't like them and they all stink?  Sounds like a perfectly logical argument.  Statistically speaking Duda is the worst of the three. Look at life time numbers.  Davis gets a slight nod over him but wins because his defense and mental make up is 1000 times better.  


adam
adam

I said they all stink!! I don't like any of them. Flip a coin, do a text vote with fans to see who starts, it doesn't matter. They all are terrible players. None of them will produce. No other teams want them!!!! Statistically speaking, Duda is the best option. But the bottom line in NONE of them deserve to start on a Major League Baseball team. Nor does 85% of the rest of the players on this team.

justinb
justinb

@adam The last two season of Young had an injury full season where he hurt his back and shoulder running into a wall and last year was a bad year which may or may not had to do with the injury.  You could've and probably did say the same about Byrd last year.


So if you criticize Young... what on Earth has Duda shown you EVER to say he can be a consistent or competent hitter and that he can handle LF?