Montero

The plan for Montero, and other help from Triple-A

Mets Triple-A RHP Rafael Montero is likely to debut in the big-league bullpen, not the starting rotation, a person with direct knowledge of the team’s thinking told columnist Andy Martino (Daily News, May 9).

According to Martino, the plan is to have Montero soon pitch out of the bullpen for Triple-A Las Vegas and then later do the same for the Mets. In mid-summer, he would again go to Triple-A to transition back to being a starting pitcher and possibly join the big-league rotation to end the season.

Vic Black and Jacob deGrom are also candidates to be promoted from Triple-A to help the big-league staff (ESPN, May 9).

The Mets have not started creating a plan for RHP prospect Noah Syndergaard, since he only has seven starts in Triple-AThis is a tool tip, assistant GM John Ricco said (Star-Ledger, May 9).

“We’re a ways away from figuring that out and how we’re going to do it,” said Ricco about promoting Syndergaard, who is expected to make his big-league debut some time in mid- to late-June.




36 comments
Brian Webster
Brian Webster

That "plan" for Montero might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard even judging by Mets standards!

1harris1
1harris1

They truly have no idea what they're doing.

Amazing.

stage52
stage52

I don't think this is a plan that will get many Met fans  excited.  I do not understand taking Montero and train him to be a reliever ,bring him up than put him back in triple A so he can become a starter again then get sent up  to be a starter by the end of the Season. What idiot thought this plan up?  Sounds like these guys have too much time on their hands.  Sure seems like a lot of wasted time to me.  Is'nt this what screwed up Meija early on?

zingzangzo
zingzangzo

Managent needs changes to happen now for the season to not be a total loss. Tejada, Satin can't hit! Being onboard Checchini for the starting s.s. spot. Also add some platoon power producer Dustin Lawley he hit the crap out of the ball last season@aaa! Like to see Mejia go into bullpen 2 innings max each outing he would be lightsout there, with Farnsworth + Vic black as closers! Send up Montero or degrom to replace Familia! Resign Willie Randolph as Manager with Wally as hitting coach waiting in the wings for the spot say 2 years down the road! Lets go Mets

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

The danger is, Montero is a guy who locates, as in that's his strength. However, mid inning umpiring tends to look quite subjective or erratic, especially in high tension spots, for whatever reasons. So you risk that kind of element affecting Montero's minset. Not to mention whatever else influences bullpens...

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

And what about Degrom 4-0  at Las Vegas? Hes been Las Vegas best starter.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

That's a great idea, so when he gets shelled out of the bullpen and he needs a full year to transition back into a starter he will lose his trade value all together. This kid is a top 100 prospect and one of the few guys we have that other teams value. If we switch him to a 6th inning fire man he will not be able to be a piece in the trade for a bat.

D
D

The Team's Thinking:


Uuuuhhhhhhhhhhh


Ummmmmmmmm


Uhhhhhhhhhhhh


Wilmer can't play SS in the Majors


Uhhhhhhh hmmmmmm   ummmmmm


Lets Promote Wilmer to play SS


Uhhhhhhhmmmmm


Colon is a ground ball pitcher!


Uhhhhhhhh mmmmm hmmmmm

simbad
simbad

I have direct knowledge of the team's thinking, and it's to shoot itself in the foot whenever and wherever possible.

D
D

If I hear about one more "plan" then I feel compelled to plan to break off the tip of my boot in Jeffy's a$$

simbad
simbad

They should not be messing with the future like this. Bad idea.

Doubleday
Doubleday

"a person with direct knowledge of the team’s thinking" - What kind of reporting is this?  Come on, Matthew, you know better.  If you don't - call me.

Adam David
Adam David

Greeeeaaaatttttt!  Now Terry can overwork pitchers that actually have a future.  Let's destroy some more young arms. 

I would only do this if Terry was gone.

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

I'm getting flashbacks to Omar and Meija about 7 years ago. Lets hope for different results

tinka
tinka

while we're concentrating on our pitchers, lets thinka about promoting some catchers and right fielders as well. i know granderson cost a ton of money, but if he doesn't start hitting above the mendoza line soon, replace him. that goes for any player who can't hit above 250, forget 200!.you wanna win, be aggressive  and take risks!!

xplr
xplr

Maybe we can add his signature to the True New Yorker letter

TheJMan
TheJMan

GREAT PLAN !!! [roll my eyes]

Mets plans don't work out 

time for them to do the opposite ala Costanza 

go search The St Louis Dispatch -- Cardinals ever announce their plans?? No, they take their prospects and put them in the bullpen and they succeed

This team is an outright mess

ENOUGH WITH THE PLANS AND THE ANNOUNCEMENTS

xplr
xplr

I think this a great plan. Somewhere along the way we should start him in the outfield in AA and catcher at the MLB level. Then maybe we can try him out as chief scout.

Gerard Fehling
Gerard Fehling

I suspect what mike23 wrote below might be the thinking behind this. . .there is an innings limit on him, so rather than putting that limit in effect EOY by completely shutting him down, they're approaching this in a Cardinal-type way by allowing him to keep pitching in the pen.  Then by mid-year hopefully they're trading Colon and can slot Montero back into the rotation for good after that, then he can keep pitching as a starter until EOY.  It's unconventional, but shouldn't kill his arm as long as Collins is smart with him - no getting him up and then sitting him down in the pen, no back to back days, etc - basically just mimic the schedule the starters follow in their off-days, but getting those reps out of the pen, then he should be fine.

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

1.  The Mets have a lot of good young pitching..

2.  The Mets have a desperate need for better pitching in the bullpen.

3.  The Mets decide to put some of the good young pitching into the bullpen.


1+1=2.

nolrog
nolrog

So let me get this straight.

Montero:

AAA Starter

AAA Reliver

Mets Reliver

AAA starter

Mets starter.

Similar to what they did with Mejia and then he blew his arm out.


Here's a novel idea.  Either leave him alone and bring him into the Mets rotation when he's "ready" (also known as after the Super 2 deadline), or make him a reliever and leave him there for the rest of the year.

Brad Houser
Brad Houser

That does not sound like a plan but instead something Martino made up in his own head.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Collins should make every pitcher in the Mets' organization a reliever and not let them throw more than 3 innings in a game. That way they would never get injured. Ya right.

slainte2
slainte2

sounds like the "plan" is to create vacancies in MLB rotation in mid-summer... maybe we will get some bats.

mike23
mike23

St. Louis cardinals have taken this approach but I believe they were contenders at the time for the playoffs and needed to improve their bullpen down the stretch due to injury and used Wainright SP? as closer before making him a starter so it can be done and would give Monterio some mlb experience to eventually take over a rotation spot or be used in a trade for some offense. Hopefully whenever/wherever the mets choose to use him, he has early success so he either ups his trade value or helps mets in pen/eventually rotation. You would think though that at some point this season both he and sydengard are in the rotation getting starts


.... maybe to make some room they can/will trade Colon by the deadline for some young offensive player(s) and/or bullpen arm(s). For mets sake hopefully colon pitches well up to that time. 

xplr
xplr

This has got to be the dumbest plan I ever heard. Who designed it? The Keystone Cops?

Anthony Fiore
Anthony Fiore

This is the highest level of stupidity.  Throw him in the AAA bullpen, put him in ML Bullpen, Send him back to AAA, Bring him back up to ML?  Why the hell would you jerk him around like this. Person with knowledge of the teams thinking?  Oh Jeffy, stop hiding.

Kavalor
Kavalor

@tinka  

don't know if you were watchingthe game but he is hitting better and is moving toward the Line - just takes a bit to cross it 

Last 7 Days 

H/AB: 7/22

Runs: 3

1B: 5

HR: 2

RBI:6

AVG: .318

OPS: .991

thats pretty good numbers - just takes time to get the brutal start out of the way 

 

 

smanj
smanj

@TheJMan WHAT ANNOUNCEMENT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??  I missed the press conference where the Mets ANNOUNCED this.  And the St. Louis Dispatch, really?? Way to be in this century

Andrew Sodergren
Andrew Sodergren

@nolrog They could also leave him a starter until he reaches 100 innings or so and then make him a reliever to finish out the season. That way you're not bouncing him back and forth and he still can help the big-league bullpen later in the year. Not a fan of the starter-reliever-starter ping-pong game.

mi
mi

@Victor Triguero  lol right, were gunna start him in AAA than move him to the pen than the bigleagues to the pen than back to AAA to start again than big leagues to start again...what the F is wrong with this team

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@ifti99 @William O'SullivanSure it is.  Montero soon, because he is farthest along, then Black and DeGrom a bit later when they're ready, at which time Montero transitions back to being a starter.

TheJMan
TheJMan

@Joe Wenzel @smanj hey dummies, it's the same thing with announcing the 1B plan only to divert from it. it's announcing the closer plan, only to divert from it. it's announcing the plan to rotate the outfielders only to say Lagares is your starting CF two days later only to sit him in Miami on Monday night

it's about time this team stops talking--announcements, plans whatever.. and makes strong moves--ACTION


and we are reading this "plan" from the NYD so, yes, it's the same reporting -- doesn't matter that it filtered through a blog that we're commenting -- point is the Cardinals-- you know, a successful organization doesn't announce anything or comment to the press about these stupid plans--they have talent, they use talent--they don't use VALVERDE AND FARNSWORTH

Have some Wenzel