Need to Know: Will the Mets trade Bartolo Colon?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I don’t think so… or, I should say, at least not before Thursday…

Right now, it sounds to me like teams looking to acquire Colon see him as a “second-tier pitcher,” considering his age, sporadic results and the $11 million due to him in 2015.

Instead, Jon Lester, David Price, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels and other available pitchers are dominating conversations. In Colon’s class, also on the trade market, you’ll find Ian Kennedy, AJ Burnett, John Lackey, and several others.


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The point is, there is more supply than demand right now. Sure, if for some weird reason a team wants to overpay to get Colon, the Mets would do it. However, he almost certainly will be more valuable in two weeks than he is now, which is all the more reason the Mets should hold on to him and keep pushing for .500; and if they stumble, will look to trade him through waivers to a team that struck out on one of the above in July.

In short, I still feel Colon is on the Mets come August 1. If he’s traded before that, it means some team got desperate and either gives up a really good prospect or the acquiring teams gives up very little and pays the whole contract. Otherwise, I bet he gets dealt for nothing through waivers in August or ends up still on the roster through September. It’s one of the three, with the former being the least likely…




40 comments
showstoppa
showstoppa

No game changer coming back for Bartolo. Keep him. Leaves flexibility for dealing in off season. Plus all of our young pitchers rave about how much they learn from watching him. Wheeler in particular

Tom Yorke Sr.
Tom Yorke Sr.

If the Mets are so concerned about unloading Colon' because his contract is such a burden, why did they give him this contract in the first place? He didn't just become 40 years old overnight.  I'd certainly trade him or anybody if the deal is right, but if Colon's contract is such a problem it is one the Mets created themselves. Fire the guy who signed him to it (Sandy!)

hankypanky
hankypanky

Why all the trade rumors about Syndergaard if he's getting hammered? Don't other GM's get scouting reports? My real point is that Colon might be packaged with Noah in order to get back value.

mets2014
mets2014

andy martino is reporting that Kansas city is interested in colon, but may not have the $$$ to take on his contract

yankeehater
yankeehater

Im all for trading Colon for a decent prospect but if we do it will be interesting to see who we have starting games in mid-september when guys like degrom and syndergaard have been shut down. 

donw
donw

I don't think they should rush to trade Colon.  Harvey will be on an innings limit next year, Niese always misses a chunk of time, and some new injury is likely to happen to some pitcher - just look at what's happened around the league this year.  Colon knows how to pitch.  He eats innings and at 42 is a good bet to be well worth $11 million next year given the state of the pitching market. 

Shawn R. Babcock
Shawn R. Babcock

It means some other team "got smart." Colon is the perfect "affordable" end of the rotation addition to a team serious about winning. Teams are making it sound like 11 million is 20 million. Please. Nice posturing.

knucky
knucky

I don’t know why Colon is so underrated. He won 18 games last year and has given up two or fewer runs in nine of his last 13 starts.Outside of back-to-back bad outings against Texas and Pittsburgh, he’s been phenomenal. He’s certainly been much better than Ian Kennedy and AJ Burnett, slightly better than Lackey and probably better than the #3 pitcher on most playoff bound teams.  The Mets should not only be able to find someone to take on his salary, but they should get a decent prospect in return.  I don't get it.

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

The Mets need a corner OFer with some power, they need a real leadoff hitter, they need a SS who's either a journeyman with a decent bat or that leadoff man they're looking for.


As long as T'dA and Duda keep it up, those are the holes to fill. I'm redy to stick with Flores for the rest of this year in the field. Let him get AB's make a tradeable commodity out of him. Give Wright a rest here and there and let Flores do 3B, even. 


What the Mets don't need t is to trade for anything less than a player that impacts the team, now, and a very high-level prospect. I would be wary of ditching any young pitching talent until we see where Harvey and Hefner (don't forget about him) are at. That puts me into next year. If they can come out of ST with what looks like a real wealth of pitching, MLB-ready, and it looks like Gee or Wheeler is expendable, they'll be able to make a major move.


Patience is a virtue. There are needs and the Mets need to answer a few questions about their pitching, first.

stage52
stage52

Colon is the cheapest option out there for a team to pick up a good pitcher even if it is only for the remaining part of this year and 2015 !  Think about it.

Doubleday
Doubleday

IF, and this is a big IF, the Mets really do pull off a deal for Tulowitzki that includes Noah Syndegaard, there is no reason to deal Bartolo Colon this season, at all.  A move to bring in offense means we are going to try to make up the 6 games, and make a run at the playoffs.  If that's the case, we NEED Bartolo Colon, who has been worth every penny of his contract.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Niese and Gee are struggling, no need to make a deal at this moment, Colon is as good as any of those other guys maybe with the exception of Price. We should wait until September when the pennant race is tight and then if it's to our advantage, make a deal. This guy is a positive influence on our young players and that is priceless. Right now Colon, Wheeler and deGrom are as good as any three pitchers from any other team, we can win or at least tie every series from this moment on, why give that up!!!!!

Let's Go Mets!!!!!

tullydew
tullydew

Sandy looks foolish.

He can't trade Colon b/c no GM wants his contract. Nobody but Sandy wanted to pay Colon 11 million in 2015 and b/c of that he has no trade value.

Sandy Fail

Ricky Gurbal
Ricky Gurbal

I think the problem is everyone is kinda expecting a ML prospect from a deal which should not be idea here. Look at what we got from the pirates for Byrd. Vic Black and a 2nd basemen whos tearing up the minor leagues. You know what we got out of that deal? Depth, yes black has turned into a great bullpen piece but we got depth with that trade and that's what we should be doing with colon.


Get a AA guy go even get a single A guy as long they have promise and can help us years down the line. Im all for it. Personally I feel like the mets should eat 5 mil compared to 2 million because it makes colon that much more attractive and honestly 5 mill to a new York team? I know maddoff screwed us up but im pretty sure we can take a 5 mill hit when we dropped ollies bum booty a couple years ago

1harris1
1harris1

I would be averse to just giving Colon up for nothing. The guy is a reliable starter who takes the ball every 5 days. If they can't get something of value for him, I'd just keep him. Considering how Niese and Gee are constantly landing on the DL; and that there will be an innings limit for Harvey, Colon could be more than useful for the team even next year. And his salary isn't that crazy for a decent pitcher.

If they're getting rid of him just to shed salary, then we'll know for sure that nothing has changed with this franchise as far as ownership is concerned. With an already embarrassingly low payroll, they should hardly need Colon's money to pursue an impact bat.

ventura_4
ventura_4

Any other way Metsblog can repeat the same story? We get it, you don't think he'll be traded. Nor will they acquire anyone for some of their pitchers. We have to wait until the winter for anything, a lot of waiting these last 6 years. 

Charles David Haskell
Charles David Haskell

We both know that any team wanted too much for Colon and the Mets must paid his salary for 2015 and maybe the first round draft. The Mets will get someone else headache. I could be wrong.

joe21
joe21

not sure what they can get on a waiver deal, but I don't think it will be nothing. by the time Sept 1 rolls around, there will be little or no available inventory for SP, so Colon will still have some value to a team that is still in it trying to upgrade for playoff push. the good part of that strategy is that there will be fewer pitchers available, but the bad part of that strategy is that there will be fewer buyers. I think they want to clear the salary first and foremost, so they will take less in return if it clears the whole 2015 nut. couldn't expect to get a ML ready piece back, but this will diminish what they could get back

heynow20
heynow20

I can't see how his contract should be such a big factor for other teams.  The guy was great last year and has been great for us this year.  $11M a year for a consistent innings eater coming off a sub-3 ERA in the AL West, that is a number 2/3 starter is definitely fair market. 

Consider that Lee makes $25M a year and Hamels $23M a year, and will cost a lot in return, and are not rentals but are salaries their new teams will have to absorb for several more years after this year's playoff push, to me makes them less valuable to a lot of contenders not named the Yankees. 

Price is really the only significant and reasonably priced starter that is clearly above colon in terms of worth and value.  However, Tampa may not trade him if they keep playing this well and he will cost a ton, so I still believe Colon probably fits the best definition of value for a team looking to make a playoff push, as he won't cost the farm, is reasonably priced, and the acquiring team won't have to renegotiate a deal with him next year and they also aren't locked in with him beyond next year for big money. 

heynow20
heynow20

He also pitches in a brutal park for pitchers which can inflate hitters stats and deflate pitcher's stats.  Its his strikeouts per 9 innings that's impressive and his upside that has people drooling.  He just needs to learn how to pitch, like most every other young pitcher. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@hankypanky Syndergaard's last two outings have been much better. Only one ER in 11+ip's. 


darkflyer
darkflyer

@mets2014 I wonder how Christian Colon is rated as a SS.  He was their first round pick and they already have Infante at 2B, Escobar at SS, and Moustakas at 3B and they just called him up as a backup IF after trading Danny Valencia.

yankeehater
yankeehater

@donw Even if it isnt until the off-season, one of our pitchers, at least, has to be traded no matter what before 2015. 


Assuming Harvey is healthy you'll have him, wheeler, degrom, niese, and gee as the 5 locks. Noah cant stay in AAA forever and you'll have Colon as well. 

anymos
anymos

@Shawn R. Babcock He's thrown 140 innings through July, has a 1.16 WHIP and a 3.88 ERA.  The IP puts him 15th in all of MLB.  The WHIP has him tied at 26 in all of MLB.

$11M is a bargain.

heynow20
heynow20

Unfortunately I think any move for a big bat that results in a big payroll hit means Colon has to go, even though I agree that we need him.

anymos
anymos

@tullydew Every time you write something, you further cement your legacy as an idiot.

Doubleday
Doubleday

@tullydew No fail.  Colon hs been outstanding.  He's worth every penny.  If nobody wants him now, their loss.  He'll be much asked about in the winter, on a 1 year contract and three straight really good seasons.

ken1010
ken1010

@ventura_4  If we want to see another way Metsblog can repeat the same story, just wait until tomorrow or the next day.

stemog
stemog

@metzsuc @tullydew I love the way Alderson doesn't tell the media anything. Hilarious! And everyone takes the fact he said it's unlikely they'll make a deal as gospel. It was Monday when he said that. He had no deals to his liking in place at that particular time, so he wasn't making a deal right then. Things change, like he said. GMs aren't gonna come right out and tell everyone what they're up to.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Daniel Poinsett @Father Dooley  I don't even get the point of that comment.

yankeehater
yankeehater

@vimets Theyd cobble something together, but it would probably be a disaster.

ken1010
ken1010

@yankeehater @vimets By September it probably won't matter, other than we might be fighting for .500 which would perhaps help ticket sales next year.