Dec. 7: The latest, relevant position player rumors from around MLB

Updated, 11:00 pm: The Yankees are not actively shopping OF Brett Gardner, but there have been a lot of inquiries about his availability (McCullough). They are looking for pitching should they look to deal Gardner (Carig).

8:35 PM: Free agent infielder Michael Young is drawing interest from four different teams (Olney).

5:08 pm: The Yankees are shopping OF Ichiro Suzuki (Jennings).

1:05 PM: OF/1B Logan Morrison is drawing significant trade interest (Morosi).

11:12 am: The Diamondbacks – who were interested in signing OF Carlos Beltran – are searching for a corner outfielder (Nightengale) and could deal from their pitching depth to get one (Nightengale).

12:00 am: The Yankees will continue to pursue free agent OF Shin-Soo Choo and free agent SS Stephen Drew (Nightengale). The Red Sox would still love to bring Drew back (Speier).

12:00 am: The agents for Dodgers OF Matt Kemp believe he could get traded during the Winter Meetings (Edes).




212 comments
batman
batman

The Mets should be in on Gardner - they need a lead-off bat and despite his excellent defense, Lagares's inclusion in the lineup brings down the entire offense.  The Mets are unlikely to find a useful, MLB-ready shortstop via trade, nevermind one that is: (1) under team control or (2) that can hit lead-off.  The Mets need to decide whether they want a negative offensive contribution from either shortstop or center field.  


If the Mets elected to trade for Gardner, I would propose trading Gee.  Another possibility involving a Gee trade is Asdrubal Cabrera, although he;s not an ideal lead-off man.  Trading Murphy just creates another hole in the lineup (which Flores may or may not be able to fill - I understand that EY Jr. likely gets the first crack there, but doubt he can hold the job).  


Gee is under team control for a number of years and both those players are headed towards free agency, but there's nothing stopping the Mets from entering or negotiating a longer term deal with either player.  They should gauge the player's interest in such before making any such deal.  Ultimately, Gee is an expendable asset.  Harvey is back late this year or next year.  Wheeler, Niese, Syndergaard, Montero, DeGroom, Mejia.  The Mets have plenty of young arms and should be able to find a fourth starter to pair with Harvey, Wheeler, and Niese.  Assuming only one of those arms are actually works out, which is being conservative, you can go into the FA market in 2015 and sign a fifth starter.  


I propose Gee for Gardner and a low level position player prospect.  Then shipping Ike Davis to the Rays for Hak Ju-Lee, Tampa's shortstop prospect, who is currently blocked by Escobar and Zobrist.  Lee would likely be a mid-season call-up, is a good OBP guy and has a fantastic, MLB-ready glove.


By June your lineup is:


Gardner

Murphy

Wright

Granderson

Young

Duda

D'Arnaud

Lee 


Lee is a plus because he also makes Murphy expendable at the deadline as he likely profiles as a top of the order bat.  


The rotation issues created by Gee's exit are easily solved by inviting a slew of innings-eaters on minor league deals - I would look at guys like Jason Hammel, James McDonald, Aaron Harang...  Maybe offer the possibility of entering the rotation to a guy returning from injury like Daniel Hudson, who is only 26.  These are only placeholders and in Hudson's case, he can turn into much more.  The absence of Gee in 2014 is ultimately unimportant, what's more important is putting together a lineup that can compete in 2015 when the pitching is set with Harvey's return and the kids taking their respective places on the pitching staff.


Niese

Wheeler

Mejia

Hudson

Hammel (Montero and Syndergaard see MLB before the end of the season) 

mrnegative
mrnegative

I'd definitely trade for Gardner. Whoever says the mets outfield is set or we don't need him is being downright moronic. Gardner is a leadoff hitter who can hit and steal bases. Last time I checked that's something the mets desperately need. This isn't Eric Young Jr., this guy is a good player. I see everyone mentioning Lagares, give me a break! A defensive minded centerfielder that can't hit. Sounds great! He's a replaceable piece. Gardner is a very good defensive CF. Getting him would set up the outfield and lineup nicely.

metluva41
metluva41

Kemp, Gordon and $50 Million, ( the reason for the outrageous amount of cash is Kemp still has 6 years 128 Million left on his deal) for Duda, Montero and Tejada. The move would give the Dodgers salary flexibility and the Mets would get the right handed power bat that theydesperately need. Gordon would add speed and if he hits it would be a plus. Lineup would be: Gordon, Granderson, Wright, Kemp, Davis, Young, Murphy, D'Arnaud , pitcher. Lineup would have good balance and speed throughout. Ike would be revitalized by be sandwiched between 2 righty bats.

eric88
eric88

I want Starlin Castro, who is available. Will DeGrom, Leathersich get it done?

tacknaf
tacknaf

glad to see some of the old commenters here... who else made it? I've seen Rooster, Mancaweiz, and even good ol Metropolitain. 

Francesco Monastra
Francesco Monastra

Gee for Gardner

Duda and prospect for Escobar (if they get Miller/Franklin in Price deal)

lineup: Gardner Escobar Granderson Wright Murphy Young Davis D Arnaud


would you do that?

then sign 2 starters

mikepiazza3186
mikepiazza3186

Add the avatars to sny and put a dislike button it can't be that hard!!!

badge4
badge4

How does this sound?  We trade Ike for Matt Adams and Trevor Rosenthal.  This way we have some power at 1B and an excellent late innings man.

texasmetsfan
texasmetsfan

what's up with still not being able to utilize an avatar?

md92468
md92468

This format is a  big turnoff....

Brent Terry
Brent Terry

Michael Young huh?  Forgot about him.  Anyone know what kind of contract he's looking at?  Can he handle SS?

gothamsane
gothamsane

The Yankees wanted Ichiro and A-Rod to end HOF careers at YS like so many others, come annually for Old Timers game with Roger Dodger and Chuck Knoblach. Let Ichiro finish in the Bronx as intended... Sign Nelson too!

gothamsane
gothamsane

I would not turn down a team overvaluing Montero however I am over optimistic that on our 2015 playoff team he could fill in middle relief and spot starting quite well for less than $600K.

gothamsane
gothamsane

I get perplexed not how fans think that Duda and Ike are hot commodities but how Montero after such a climb is so disposable, Murphy's great hard climb and respectable 2nd is passe for any trade and trade hugh chips like Wheeler and Sydergaard for Kemp is such a no brainer.

nym68
nym68

I surrender..  I give up and give in! I say the Mets make these trades

Ike for Trout

Duda for Harper

Murphy for Cano (Seattle pays the difference in salary)

Flores for Kershaw (L.A. pays for the entire new contract)

In a three team trade -

d'Arnaud for Posey and Weiters ( S.F. splits the contracts with Baltimore)




Joseph
Joseph

Hopefully Sandy will make a couple of trade's

This week at the winter meetings

nym68
nym68

What makes so many people think that teams are dying to get either Ike or Duda? The Yankees have Texeira. L.A. has Gonzalez....etc.... 

Andrew Herbst
Andrew Herbst

Ichiro would be an interesting guy to acquire.

dooley
dooley

The Red Sox are in trade discussions for Kemp centered around Xander Bogaerts, the #1 prospect in baseball. Any trade discussion for Kemp would have to start with Wheeler or Syndergaard

Zach Ripple
Zach Ripple

@Francesco Monastra Somehow you think the Yankees and Rays would do that. You also somehow think the Mets would give up Gee for an OK center fielder without long-term team control and displace their already under-control, defensive-minded center fielder in Lagares. I like the idea of trying to get Escobar, although I think it will take more than Duda, but Gardner for Gee would be a waste for both teams. Gee is far more valuable in the NL and in a pitcher's park like Citi. To be fair, I think he would thrive in the NL West (minus the Rockies) where he would pitch a lot in pitcher's parks and also get away from the Phillies, who decimate him. 

dave27a
dave27a

People really need to chill with Gardner. We got the Yankee OF we wanted, lets stop dealing vital pieces for an overrated player we don't need.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Not sure why we'd do that/. We have a CF that's as good on D if not better, their offensive is comparable and Lagares is still dirt cheap.

niesesnose
niesesnose

It's unlikely the mets get Gardner. The outfield is basically set, an Gardner is a free agent after this year. In content with Granderson, young, Lagares and Puello hopefully coming up in July. Hold on to gee, sign Colon and Also Colby Lewis on a minor league deal

Gland1
Gland1

@badge4 Can you remind us all again why the Cardinals would want to do that?  I haven't read any rumors about them wanting to downgrade at 1b and lose a huge part of their pen.  

Gland1
Gland1

@badge4 Sounds great!  And we're giving up what for them?

xavier22
xavier22

Yes. Why fix what wasn't broken?

LifelongMets
LifelongMets

@md92468 You can say that again. It just really isn't conducive to conversation,

realityck
realityck

I can't agree more. it blows


dave27a
dave27a

Definitely a guy who wants a shot at a ring. 1 year deal will do as he was already contemplating retirement, but he's a corner guy at best now.

xgamblorx
xgamblorx

@Brent Terry He wasn't a good defensive shortstop even when he played the position regularly. He's no longer even capable of playing 3B and is a below-average hitter at this point to boot.

Gland1
Gland1

@gothamsane Well it's a couple of things. Regarding Duda and Ike, a lot of people here are dumb and believe everything Cerrone and Baron post about.  They've posted that there is interest for them, and people believe it.   With Montero, people have think that because Wheeler and Syndergaard are off limits, teams will be thrilled to take Montero and a lot of ok prospects instead.  

dave27a
dave27a

Say no to the apostrophe.

mrnegative
mrnegative

What proof do you have to backup that statement?! I know it isn't his sparkling .242 average or .281 OBP. People here and mets fans overall overrate Larages cause of his defensive capabilites. I saw with my own two eyes what kind of player he is, which isn't a very good one. If the mets had an opportunity to continue to improve the outfield they shouldn't hesitate, Juan Larages isn't Andruw Jones in his prime. Gardner, Kemp, Cruz, I'd take any of those guys.

Derpy
Derpy

@dave27a     Gardner is certainly NOT overrated.  But the Mets don't need him at all.  The Mets need a first basemen, shortstop, bullpen, and starting pitching.

mrnegative
mrnegative

Their offense is not comparable. Gardner is a proven player with a good bat and is also a base stealer. I'd take him over Lagares in a heartbeat.

dooley
dooley

I believe Colby Lewis resigned with Texas on a minor league deal

niesesnose
niesesnose

Because Davis obviously can bounce back and hit .459 with 53 homers. This clears up the cap space for the Gee for trout trade that was inevitable

niesesnose
niesesnose

I think he means just Ike Davis, which is hilarious

texasmetsfan
texasmetsfan

@realityck I am less than impressed with this move of formats.......I second the blowing motion.

gothamsane
gothamsane

I have ventured yo find great content: Rosenthal, Harper, Amaxin Ave, Memorized. Two Guys and it is night and day against other posters before Livefyre... It really is equally amazing (no pun) with FanGraphs, BBRef etc... And how do many people just do not have the time and furthermore we not watching trams win by: leadership, clutch, chemistry, .230 warriors when it counted etc..

It wasn't Seaver and Gooden but Lefties Koos and Bobby O that lead us in the WS.

nym68
nym68

@Gland1 @gothamsane Baron is so much worse than Cerrone. All that idiot does is regurgitate what every Mets beat writer says. Then acts as if he thought it up in his daddy's basement. At least Matt makes up half his bullshit

Gland1
Gland1

@niesesnose That is so absurd I am pretending he didn't really say it and giving him a chance to come up with something legitimate.

Gland1
Gland1

@xgamblorx @Andrew Herbst at this point he may even be worse than EY.  Still trying to understand why he's "interesting".  That sounds like Cerrone-esque analysis.

xgamblorx
xgamblorx

@Andrew Herbst Ichiro's worse than Granderson, Lagares, or Chris Young. There would be no sense in the Mets trading for anyone making $6.5m to be a 4th OF.

Gland1
Gland1

@Andrew Herbst, no we wouldn't sign him because he's under contract to the Yankees.  So trading for him and paying him $6.5 million because "he's a veteran" just doesn't sound like a really great idea to me.