Hot Stove Baseball

Dec. 7: The latest, relevant pitching rumors from around MLB

9:05 pm: The Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Rangers and Mariners are all in position to make a trade for Rays LHP David Price (Rosenthal).

5:25 pm: The Yankees are interested in a trade for RHP Jeff Samardzija, but may need a third team to get involved (Loxas).

5:00 pm: The Astros have signed free agent reliever Chad Qualls to a two-year contract, the team announced.

12:40 pm: The Red Sox are more likely to trade a starting pitcher in order to acquire a new one (MacPherson).




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anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

A mets article just came out on Newsday, can't put the link on it so here is a copy? Enjoy the read

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Mets have $13 million and trade bait heading into winter meetings

The signing of free-agent outfielder Curtis Granderson likely will stand as the centerpiece of the Mets' most active offseason in years. But with baseball's winter meetings starting Monday in Lake Buena Vista, Fla., the club hopes to take advantage of the chance to continue its makeover.

The Mets expect to step up their search for a trade partner interested in one of their first basemen -- Ike Davis or Lucas Duda -- according to a person with knowledge of the team's thinking.It might be the Mets' next major move after securing Granderson with a four-year, $60-million deal. One rival executive praised the signing, calling Granderson "undervalued" after a season marred by freak injuries. Another said the agreement will look like a relative bargain as the market for power continues to develop.It's unclear whether Granderson's contract will be backloaded, as was the case with the previous contract he signed with the Tigers. If it is, such a structure would create more wiggle room for the Mets to finish off their offseason makeover.

The Mets have about $13 million in payroll flexibility remaining, enough to add an established starting pitcher and perhaps an arm for the bullpen. But it's not enough to accommodate both pitchers and a new shortstop to replace Ruben Tejada.

Given his resources, general manager Sandy Alderson could face some intriguing choices at the meetings. While plenty of midrange pitching options remain on the free-agent market, the Mets' choices at shortstop are slim.

Only Stephen Drew would represent an offensive upgrade. But because Drew's asking price remains out of the Mets' range, their best chance to find Tejada's replacement appears to be in a trade.The Mets prefer not to dip into their store of young pitching, especially with Matt Harvey expected to miss the season recovering from Tommy John surgery.

Zack Wheeler and top pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard are regarded as virtually untouchable. Nevertheless, the Mets' remaining young arms will draw interest."If you've got pitching, you can always make a deal. That's the good thing," a rival executive said. "I know other clubs covet a lot of what they've got."

Second baseman Daniel Murphy remains a trade candidate, though he is not being aggressively shopped. Moving fourth outfielder Eric Young Jr. to second base would give the Mets an in-house replacement if they deal Murphy.A source said the Mets have no plans to make such a shift, and the team likely will need Murphy's bat in the lineup as it is currently constructed.

Either Davis or Duda remains the most likely Met to be traded, though neither individually is enough to fetch a quality shortstop.Still, a source said the Mets remain confident that there are enough potential trade partners remaining for first basemen with power. Suitors might include the Rays and the Brewers, both of whom already have engaged the Mets in talks about Davis.

badge4
badge4

the mariners are just spending all of their money..

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

If the Dodgers get Price, they have to be favorites to win the WS in 2014. Kershaw and Price are the two top LHPers in the game.

tullydew
tullydew

This commenting system SUCKS

wmayshays
wmayshays

disqus > lifefyre


It's really just a fan site, why change anything?  Why is it so important for SNY to control the comments?  Moderate certain things but otherwise just leave it be...


Biggest dislike of the new system is how I can't just go to disqus anymore and follow my own threads/conversations.   I have to scroll through everything first.  

 And no downvote... come on!




Metropolitan
Metropolitan

The Yankees are trying desperately to cover up the stink of losing out on Cano.....

Alen Teplitsky
Alen Teplitsky

send a decent pitcher for gardner

gardner, young, duda and grandy in OF

trade the scrubs left over for an average starting pitcher

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

13 million to spend on a SP and RP and no SS? So...if Murphy is the 2b, one of Duda or Ike is the 1b and Tejada is the ss, then your OF has to be Eric Young, Granderson and Chris Young has to be your OF because Ey is the only they have qualified to be a leadoff hitter....

niesesnose
niesesnose

I don't think the Dodgers get Price, unless they deal Kemp (not happening) In comparison to the Rangers, D-backs, Mariners their prospects are weak

Gland1
Gland1

@harvey33 I'm sure if he actually sent you a DM saying this he would want you to rush onto his blog to tell everyone about what he said privately.

d_dx
d_dx

@harvey33 Fred Wilpon DMed me (I can't post his Twitter handle) and he was very honest. He said Matt Cerrone is a liar and wished he were fired.

LifelongMets
LifelongMets

@tullydew This is pretty much just a one comment system. One comment and then you'll never hear from it again. At least Disqus had the semblance of a conversation.

Christian Card
Christian Card

Love how anything new gets crushed by people just for being new. Awwww you miss your little thumbs up, thumbs down feature. Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

I will be the only to say this is better but hey I think this is better.

Gland1
Gland1

@wmayshays totally agreee.  If their real intention is controlling comments, then institute an actual commenting policy and have someone enforce it.  MLBTR has one and they have actual moderators.  Their comment section is always a lot more civilized, and they use Disqus.  

supert
supert

@bcleveland Thanks for sharing that you're one of the quality posters here. I've also been checking out that site and if they switch to Disqus I might be spending even more time over there.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Metropolitan No they're not, actually they're probably thrilled.  They've learned that ARod type contracts are a waste of money and they can use that quarter of a billion sign 4 stud players.  It's not like Cano signed with the Red Sox.  In Seattle he' s in no position to hurt them. 

metsstrong
metsstrong

Where's the dislike button? I need to put it into use right about now.

Gland1
Gland1

@Alen Teplitsky Duda in the OF?  Nope.  Trading scrubs for something useful?  Sounds plausible to me!

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Alen Teplitsky  Gardner would be a stud for the Mets.  The Yankees are desperate for pitching.  Seem like a perfect match. 

niesesnose
niesesnose

No, they're going to trade for a shortstop. I could see a 3 way trade where the mets send Davis to the rays, the mariners get Taijuan Walker, Nick Franklin and another top m's prospect and the mets get Yunel Escobar.

Francesco Monastra
Francesco Monastra

@anthony G. Decesare our pen is fine (just add players on minor league deals, maybe sign Aceves) SP should cost about 4-6m Jason Hammel? (then add insurance on minor league deal) then SS trade for Nick Franklin, Sign Kurt Suzuki and Brennan Boesch, keep Ike as 1B

Murphy can bat lead off, just like Cards do with Matt Carpenter 

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

I think the Dodgers could trade Kemp to Bos with the young SS and CF being the centerpiece of what goes back to the Dodgers. I think Price goes to Seattle. I think Drew ends up back in bos too.

Gland1
Gland1

What makes it better then?

niesesnose
niesesnose

Negatives: You have 0 idea when someone responds to your comment.

You have to use your Facebook/twitter or have t make an SNY account.

All old threads will be lost. This one is most important to me, as I love looking at the old archived threads.

willymayshays
willymayshays

What a weird response...???

Did I offend you?

Being the leader that you are recognizing what is better and going with that, I'd think you'd also try to communicate better.  It kind of sounds to me your the childish one...waaaahhhhhh, lol

dooley
dooley

I find mlbtraderumors to be the best baseball website. They have intelligent commenters from fans of all teams (to help keep trade discussion realistic), great info, and even players themselves check out the site to see what rumors are occurring! I learned about the notorious Jason Bay signing before it happened by reading a comment written by one of Jason Bay's relatives! Normally I would be highly suspicious of the comment, but it turned out to be true. In fact, I am sure it is still in their archives section somewhere

Gland1
Gland1

@bcleveland the trolls on that site are a lot brighter then the ones here.  And they get rid of posts that violate their policy immediately.  That site is run much better and they use Disqus, so I'm not sure why it wasn't good enough for this site.

Gland1
Gland1

I have never had Disqus crash ever and I've already had problems with livefyre on my phone.

wmayshays
wmayshays

Yes it was slow, I didn't like that.  Though I never had it crash.

If it's going to switch over, why can't we log in via livefyre instead of SNY?  Then I could keep track of my conversations instead of trying to find it amongst the other comments each time. 


You can't view your profile or view other peoples profile.

Sorry but waiting 15 seconds for disqus to load just wasn't such a big deal to me.


niesesnose
niesesnose

Ha, I hate that you can't delete comments with freaking Livefyre. But anyway Price is getting to dealed to the Dbacks or M's. Ok either trade, the Rays would get Gregorius or Owings from the Dbacks or Franklin/Miller from the M's. This would render Escobar useless.

niesesnose
niesesnose

And it worked out awful. Just let the SS we acquire bat lead off.(Probably Escobar). Then you have Escobar, Murphy, Wright, Granderson, Young, Duda/Satin, d'Arnaud, Lagares

niesesnose
niesesnose

If the m's have Iwakuma, Price and Hernandez they have 3 guys with sub3 ERAs pitching in a pitchers park, they realize that if their pitching is that good they don't need that many great bats. I still see the chances of the mets trading Davis and someone else for a SS a verr likely possibility

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

Dude your dreaming, their not making murphy a leadoff hitter...hahahah

Francesco Monastra
Francesco Monastra

@niesesnose if im the Mariners you forget about Price and improve other areas

they need to 1 or 2 bats (DH,RF), need to improve the pen, then they can sign a vet for the rotation

also im just not that high on Price and his asking price is very high

niesesnose
niesesnose

No, the mets Will not get Franklin, he'll be dealer by the m's in a package for price. I see a 3 way deal where the m's get Price, the Mets get Escobar and the Rays get Davis and a package of m's prospects. If also rather have Bartolo Colon on a 1 year deal. I know, he's fat, a ped user, but he was also great last year and can come relatively cheap. Then bat Escobar lead off, and sign Andrew Bailey/Ronaldo Besliaruo for the pen. I'm happy with Torres, Parnell, Black, Rice, Edgin, Germen and Bailey with Walters and Leathersich coming up

dooley
dooley

Yeah, their minor league assessment alone is worth a site visit, although I really like Mr. Toby Hyde's insights as well. He is the reason I checked out metsblog in the first place

niesesnose
niesesnose

Amazin avenue>>>Metsblog. I like the commenters, the comment system isn't great but it not broke

d_dx
d_dx

@bcleveland I just checked it out and its true but the comment system is terrible.

Francesco Monastra
Francesco Monastra

@wmayshays good points, i kinda like espn i see all my posts on my facebook wall and notify s me when someone comments