Stephen Drew 3 (AP)

The latest on Stephen Drew: Are the Mets interested or not?

The Mets and free-agent SS Stephen Drew have had continuous discussion about a contract, according to a source (Carig, Feb. 9).

However, a second source with knowledge of the team’s thinking says that is not accurate (Carig, Feb. 10), which was later echoed by a team official (Davidoff, Feb. 10).

It was reported this weekend that Drew is seeking an opt-out clause after the first year of his deal, which the Mets view as a deal breaker (Rubin, Feb. 6). Drew has reportedly been seeking at least a three-year contract.

Last week, WFAN’s Mike Francesa said the Mets made an offer to Drew, but that was refuted by the New York Post, Daily News, WEEI in Boston and SiriusXM’s Jim Bowden, all citing sources aware of the situation.

The Mets are ‘not unwilling’ to offer Drew three years, but so far that hasn’t been necessary, Sandy Alderson told a group of season-ticket holders last week.

The Red Sox have also shown interest in Drew. However, Red Sox GM Ben Cherington said this weekend that he may finally be ready to move on and go with the roster he’ll have in camp (SiriusXM, Feb. 9).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Again, semantics. I’m sure Drew’s agent, Scott Boras, will define contract talks differently than a team will. The point is, I’m sure Boras is pitching and whether teams are swinging or missing is probably a matter of perception. Obviously, the Mets have some sort of interest, and Drew clearly knows he should play for the Mets (given the opportunity, playing time and spotlight). The Mets clearly don’t want to over commit, but Drew most certainly doesn’t want to be a free agent (coming off a possible down year) next winter when significantly better free-agent shortstops could be available.

Frankly, I still think this is all a ploy by Boras to get the Astros or Twins to offer a better deal, which he would probably accept…

74 comments
cmetsfan
cmetsfan

If next year's SS market is so loaded, maybe an opt out for year one isn't bad.

Christopher Masiello
Christopher Masiello

More Stephen Drew stories PLEASE. 

Can we not mention this strictly mediocre clowns name again until he signs with somebody? It's ridiculous already.

helloboy
helloboy

Clearly they made an offer, Matt.  Sandy said as much to to the season ticket holders last week.  I do not believe the Astros or the Twins would offer Drew anything more than the Mets do.  The Mets actually would be the most attractive of those teams as they have a better rotation (even without Harvey) and have more bats. He would also be in a better spotlight to build value for his next FA period playing in NY.  Nobody will go more than 11M a year on him.  


If the Sox are out, I think he ends up a Met.  Really, it is the Sox and the Mets.  If Boras is trying to work the Astros and Twins, it would be a joke.  

This is really a ploy to try to get more out of Boston.  


It is kind of funny that Sandy Alderson liked Drew's Profile Pic and Boras than poked Alderson. 

John Cross
John Cross

Signing here makes since for Drew since it gives him the opportunity to start and be in the spotlight that he wouldn't be as a backup or starting for the Astros or Twins. For the Mets sake, signing him would show they're looking to improve the position, but how much does it improve the team as a whole? Stephen Drew was hardly a factor in the Red Sox winning the World Series. Maybe they should just save the money and hope Tejada improves or they can get a SS in a trade if they're at all in contention, or get Drew to sign for a year and then go after a big free agent SS next offseason.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

why is an opt out after one year a deal breaker for the Mets.  I think that's unbelievable.  WE get a major league shortstop for one year, if he leaves then theres a nice group of free agent shortstops next year.  I think this is ideal for the Mets no? 


Bruce Mitrani
Bruce Mitrani

I was listening to Jim Bowden on Sirius XM and he said that at best-the difference between having Drew at SS opposed to Tejada will buy them perhaps 3 wins in 2014. As the Mets are clawing their way to at best a .500 record is Drew really worth the cash?

mikerolli
mikerolli

1 or 2 games better? Are u joke ing ?? Drew wright grander son young be huge in this weak div oye peace out yo

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

To me, Drew is a definite upgrade.  Tejada was just dreadful last season.  Drew will only probably make the Mets 1-2 wins better, but at least that means that it's one less minor league player starting when he should be utility player at best! 

Joe Kruk
Joe Kruk

There are a bunch of SS in the minor leagues just looking to be traded for and we're sitting here talking about a guy no one wants....This team is beyond frustrating.  AZ has 3 SS and just signed Arroyo...you mean to tell me we couldn't trade some of our surplus of pitching for Owings?

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

.

How was copper wire invented?

........Fred and Jeff found the same penny.

Mick Osborne
Mick Osborne

Agreed. This isn't news. The only person this arguably helps is Boras.

archer41
archer41

And around and around and around it goes.  Where it stops, nobody knows.  

hashburry
hashburry

 Drew clearly knows he should play for the Mets-


What does that even mean?  I assume there is some typo in this sentence that totally confuses the intent, because I'm pretty sure Drew does not know he should play for the Mets.

ifti99
ifti99

I'd rather have Drew than Tejada, but I doubt he'w worth $12mm even in this crazy free agent class. If he's worth $12mm, are guys like Reyes and Tuli worth 25mm?


It's obvious no one is all that interested at this price. I'd probably stick with Tejada or see if there is someone in our minor league system who can play. If some miracle happens and we are actually in contention in july, we can always trade for someone else. 

gloveman
gloveman

There just really isn't a market for Drew and that's the bottom line. As others have pointed out he's not really worth giving up a draft pick for for a one year deal, and he's not so good that you want to commit to him for 3 years when much better options will be available next year.  Unless he's a steal for one year there isn't much desire, and his agent isn't exactly the right guy to have for bargains. And staying with Boston, even if they wanted him, doesn't help his future value. Drew is win a really bad spot!

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

Let me explain this real quick....baseball reference has the. Mets 2014 payroll at 84.9m, including 3m to Bay, the reports are that the Mets want yo spend 85m. See where I'm going here?

Jason Lynch
Jason Lynch

I have officially decided I don't care. I just want the guy to sign SOMEWHERE so we can stop hearing about the man. Lets just figure out what shortstop is going to bat 8th in the order and hit about .260 with no power....

Ed Zoubi
Ed Zoubi

i think these 2 guys are linked to one another. ike needs to be traded in order to free up money for drew.im hoping this is not the case. it would be a shame that the owners of a mlb team in new york are  rubbing pennies together to get a dollar. 

Bigtop_5
Bigtop_5

@metsblog if the mets wanted this guy he would be here by now. Enough is a enough. He is not going to be a mets. Sandy is a complete moron

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

The rumor this morning on MLB satellite radio had him going back to Boston.  Apparently the Mets went to a Band of America ATM and tried to withdraw the money to pay him and their card was denied.

mingo
mingo

Offer him a three year deal with an opt out after the second year, and/or a team buyout after the second year.

Merrill Needham
Merrill Needham

I think whether or not we sign Drew has more to do with Tejada than with dollars, years or opt outs. If the Tejada that is in camp is the logical extension of what we got in 11-12, then you don't need Drew. Drew wont be that much better and we can use the money on the pen. If he showed up like last year, Drew would already be in camp. The fact that we haven't pulled the trigger suggests that Tejada so far has done what needs to be done.

rico
rico

Stephen Drew, Ike Davis

Stephen Drew, Ike Davis

 Stephen Drew, Ike Davis

…..infinity…


How about we talk about those guys when something happens…..enough already!


Was anyone in Met-land last year saying…"if only we had Steven Drew?"


Even if he does sign I'll bet Tejada beats him out in camp,


Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

Just keep posting the non story with the inevitable result of drew on another team, tejada as our ss, and excuses of how they "tried" but (fill in the rest)

TheTrueStork
TheTrueStork

I also don't understand why the one-year opt out would be a deal breaker.  Make it a mutual opt-out, and everyone should be happy.  Tejada could be our SS/2nd sub, and we should be set. 


On a different note, how the heck do you add a profile pic?  I can't find it listed anywhere.  Thanks.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

@Christopher Masiello from a shortstop prosepective hes def not mediocre.  Hes arguably a top 10 shortstop.  Gotta look at players from the position they play.  Murph batting 290 13 homers 70 rbis 90 runs at the second base position, that's really good.  If he were a first basemen not so good. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@helloboy  Yeah, I can't for the life of me see why either the Twins or Astros especially would want Drew. If I'm not mistaken they both would have to give up 1st round picks to sign him. They're both still building so why give up the first rd pick. They aren't going to win anything, Astros especially. 

But I still think there will be some other mystery team, other than the Sox or Mets who comes in last minute and signs him. Typical Boras

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Mike Dell Italia  Because we would be giving up a 3rd pick this year. And with the opt out clause it is written so that the Mets won't have the ability to offer him a QO after the year so they won't be able to recoup a draft pick for him leaving. Unfortunately with the financial situation they have there is no way they can afford one of the elite SS next year and they know it. They would prefer to get him on a 2 or 3 year deal so that hopefully then one of Cecchini or Rosario would be able to take over after that term. 

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

@mikerolli  Drew himself.  Granderson also replaces Byrd.  You think Wright is going to be 10-14 games better than last year? lol! 

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

@Joseph DeFazio and its another piece say TDA and Legares hit a lil bit, w drew wright granny cy and murph, maybe were talking 5 or 6 game improvement.  Then in 2015 we add another bat and get Harvey back we can be close to a 90 win team

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Joe Kruk  Owings was a horrible defensive SS. That's why he has been moved to 2b. They are not trading Didi because they want him as their starting SS and hoping Owings can take over 2b for them. 

mingo
mingo

@ifti99

No, trading for someone in July means you have to mortgage valuable farm pieces. That isn't a situation you should put yourself in if you can avoid it.

I would hate to have to trade DeGrom or Montero of Plawecki or Nimmo for a shortstop just so we could wind up in a one game wildcard playoff game.

If by chance we are in position in July, then Tejada would be a valuable part of the team and we wouldn't need to trade for a shortstop.

Trading those guys for power arms that can start down the road or pitch in the bullpen  for a few years is a different story.

If there is a trade piece- Chris Young is most likely to be that piece.

nagel100
nagel100

@fedupfan13  exactly right.   it's a catch 22.  mets will spend if attendance increases.  losing guarantees it won't.


we are not winning anything this year.

gloveman
gloveman

@Merrill Needham  the one thing though that Drew is and that Tejada is not, is a lead off hitter. To me that is the only reason to take him. I don't see a lead off hitter anywhere else on the Mets, and I don't see a spot in the batting order for Tejada. How many #7 and 8 hitters can a team have?

vimets
vimets

The opt out is a deal breaker because it affects draft picks.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@TheTrueStork A mutual option will never happen because it's  basically just a one year deal. 

Drew has great season: He opts out.

Drew has terrible season: Mets opt out.

Drew has OK season: Either side may or may not opt out.

A one year deal with a player option is even dumber.  He's going to exercise the option only if he has a down year and wouldn't get more elsewhere. 

sylow59
sylow59

@Mike Dell Italia @Christopher Masiello Well he was last year and in 2010.  All other years he was below average, sometime having a negative fWAR.  He is projected to be below average for the next 5 years. And this assumes there is no decrease in defense.  Given his age it is safe to assume his fielding worsens and he may be borderline replacement in year 3.  We are not talking about a young Honus Wagner here.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

@Tarheel11 @Mike Dell Italia true but I don't care ab a third round pick.  Im willing to risk it.  Plus its not a definite that he would opt out.  I think we would be able to afford lowrie or escobar if he did

helloboy
helloboy

@Joseph DeFazio @mikerolli  Granderson does not replace Byrd.  Chris B. Young replaces Byrd.  Assuming Young bounces back a bit, and he should given his career, he will hit .240-250..but he will also hit 20-24 HR (in the same area as Byrd) have 35 doubles and 5-8 triples (both way more than Byrd) and will steal 18 more bases and play even better defense.  Young is going to put up a lower BA, but a similar OBP and probably more overall extra base hits than Byrd did. 


Granderson is going to be a whole extra bat, who will put up better numbers than Byrd did.  He will hit 30+ HR and with more doubles, triples and RBI.  He will also do better on D. 


With Granderson and Young added to Lagares, the Dwar will be so far superior to last year and the Owar will increase a bit, though not as high, that the new OF alone will get get a +10 WAR overall, from last year's group. Book it.


The biggest whole is at 1B.  Tejada can bounce back, but he gives limited overall production and is a singles hitter even if he hits above .265. 


TDA is the key.  if TDA develops to look like the hitter scouts think he can be and not a guy we want out of here by the deadline, the Mets can make a legit run. 


The starting rotation has Colon to replace Harvey and with Wheeler starting and Mejia (or even Lannan if Mejia falls in his recovery) the overall rotation is better.  You will get so many more wins out of th backend of the rotation, it is not funny.  



mikerolli
mikerolli

Joe drew that good bro. But I know wilpons won't pull the trigger

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

@mingo @ifti99  Don't drink the Metsblog coolaid! This team is nowhere near a post-season contender.  We would effectively have to be 14 win better than last year.  I don't think our roster can be 14 wins better. 

gloveman
gloveman

@vimets  good point. That's really the only reason. Drew isn't worth giving up a draft pick for a one year deal. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Mike Dell Italia @Tarheel11  I agree about the pick but this FO is infatuated with picks. And I get it when you are trying to rebuild the farm system. But to me a third round pick is a crap shoot anyway. 

And the problem is it seems like everyone thinks Ramirez and Hardy will resign with current teams. And so you are thinning the market dramatically. And who are the Yankees going to go after? Phillies? 

And I want nothing to do with Lowrie! Horrible defensive SS and played 100 games once in his career. 5 straight years before last of being on the DL. 

Maybe the kid from Cleveland Cabrera if Lindor does well enough and takes over. 

helloboy
helloboy

@Joseph DeFazio @mingo @ifti99  I already think they are 10 wins better with just Granderson, Young and Colon.  Plus, I think the Pen will be better with more young guns out there and the rotation is starting without scrubs like Hefner running around.