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Sandy Alderson supports Terry Collins

4:40 pm: Mets GM Sandy Alderson told ESPN radio that he is very supportive of his manager, Terry Collins.

Terry Collins does an outstanding job of keeping guys motivated, he has a great relationship with the players, they have tremendous respect for him, and he’s doing the best job he can possibly do and I support him,” Alderson explained.

In regards to whether his own job is in jeopardy, Alderson said, “You’ll have to ask somebody else that question.”

Alderson said he would understand if his team’s owners were feeling impatient these days. However, “I think we’ve made a lot of progress. It doesn’t show in this month’s win-loss record.”


2:33 pm: Collins isn’t in immediate jeopardy of losing his job, “according to everyone around the Mets,” reports columnist Jon Heyman (SI.com, May 27).

The Mets fired hitting coach Dave Hudgens after Monday’s game, which Sandy Alderson indicated was an isolated decision.

According to Heyman, Collins is liked enough within the organization that he’ll likely have time to get the Mets playing like they were in April.

However, he adds, “the ground under Collins is starting to loosen.”




168 comments
David Fernández
David Fernández

Joe, I agree .. BUT ... Collins is HORRENDOUS at in game adjustments ... All you need to look at is how he handled Valverde ... That first Pittsburgh loss was totally on Collins' ineptitude

Bob Giacalone
Bob Giacalone

Well, his support says everything.  Stop going to the ball park. That will be enough to change that support.

qualcomm
qualcomm

Terry Collins does an outstanding job of keeping guys motivated, he has a great relationship with the players, they have tremendous respect for him, and he’s doing the best job he can possibly do and I support him,”

Translation: He can't possibly do better with this group of players.  We expect the players to play well, but they haven't, but I feel the manager has nothing to do with the players performing well. His in game strategy  i won't mention because it's irrelevant, since we're not trying to win anyway. The players like him and we have to shut them up."

fixthemets
fixthemets

Collins has a terrible roster, obviously. But he is also a terrible manager.

At least Omar and Willie went to the playoffs.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

Well I think terry does what he's told, so other than handling the starter's pitch counts and bullpen use, Alderson shouldn't be able to find fault that he's not in control of mostly.

Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

Yup . Another strike against Alderson . The guy makes poor decisions and he supports his lousy manager. I can't understand how this guy built his reputation as a top GM .

A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

The players r motivated..rarely.Yes tc can only do w/ what he has to work w/..this is not a great team, but some of them r better than level they r performing at

jonlga
jonlga

Where is the talent? Terry Collins has been manager since 2011. How many solid rosters has he had? Hint: it's a nice round number.

I said this before but I will again. This team is a 1974 Vega and Terry Collins is driving. You can stop the car and release the driver with Wally Backman or Tim Teufel or anybody, but until the product is improved that 1974 Vega is not going to win the Indy 500.

You play the players you're given. Until those players are upgraded there is nothing any manager or coach can do. This is on the GM and ownership.

Darrell Smith
Darrell Smith

We need a new MGR. however he'll have to work cheap because the Wilpons have little if any.money at all.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

So is that the vote of confidence. 

wilpondscm
wilpondscm

i have no feelings for or against collins for the most part. i mean you dress up a bunch of fecal matter in uniforms and they will play like crap, i guarantee it. i don't care who manages.

wilpondscm
wilpondscm

both upper and middle management always support yes men.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Will be interesting to see who the Mets draft in the upcoming amateur draft..hopefully a position player that can hit and is close to being ready.

banging3s
banging3s

The best manager in existence couldn't manage this roster. It's a team of scrubs. Only a fraction of the team actually belongs in the majors. The GM is a stuttering buffoon with a padded resume, but no real talent evaluation skills. Since taking over, he has won ZERO trades. He has signed ZERO good free agents. He has had ZERO winning seasons.  I couldn't stand Omar, but Sandy couldn't lick Omar's jock strap, let alone wear it. Sandy should take his Harvard degree, shove it up his sphincter, and then announce that he is stepping down due to being a big fat ZERO.

Mario Arduini
Mario Arduini

Hudgens wants to bash Keith Hernandez!!! We need a 1B like Hernandez! Please make Darling or Ojeda Pitching Coach over mouth breather Warthen!

Mario Arduini
Mario Arduini

The Mets need a full dose of talent!!! They need it at 1B,SS, Outfield,C and Relief Pitching!!! Duda needs to go! Tejada needs to go! TDA still up in the air...looks like a bust! Cy needs to go!!

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Its nice to wait for your pitch but id like to think most pitchers want to throw a first strike pitch ask Derek Jeter who hit one in the 2000 series off Bobby Jones.

stage52
stage52

No Terry  is a bad manager pure and simple.  Terry makes moves every game that helps to lose the game and no team  good or bad needs a manager that works against you on a nightly basis.  I don't think I have screamed at the TV as much as the last 3 years in 50 years.  You can't fix stupid. You fire him !

artie412
artie412

Lamar Johnson has been minor league hitting instructor in the Mets organization since 2005.


Is HE the one responsible for the batting styles of Ike Davis, Lucas Duda and the rest of them?


If so, WTF is he doing here???

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Id take Frank taveras at SS and Stearns At catcher if they were in their prime now.

artie412
artie412

I just checked, and if one guy exemplifies the mediocrity of the Mets it's Duda.


The four games this weekend, he left 17 runner stranded. Seventeen. Then, to add insult to injury, the on contribution he DOES make is a solo homer in Monday's debacle. 


Father Dooley
Father Dooley

Who remembers the late 70s Mets?  Are the Sandy Alderson-era Mets worse?

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@fixthemets I don't think he was hired to be a good manager strategy wise. I think he was hired to handle the player egos and young guys, but then when the talent was present enough, they were gonna promote someone else.


Problem is, the talent never felt present enough.

Doug Santos
Doug Santos

@jonlga then you must love his decision of keeping Valverde to pitch the ninth. you must also love his decision to keep playing Chris Young. Are you related to him?


Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@jonlga I owned a '72 Pinto. It was an unbridled piece of crap. Lucky I'm still alive. Yes, the talent is questionable. But, as many have pointed-out, team fundamentals are atrocious. Lineups lack utility and creativity. Team plays with neither passion nor aggression.

7up17left
7up17left

@jonlga 95 per cent of the people here have no idea what a 1974 Vega was.  Unfortunately, I do.  My parents had one.  Down a quart of oil every fill-up thanks to the warped aluminum block engine...

mags328
mags328

@Chris Lyons That doesn't prove managers don't mean anything. They could just be hiring bad managers. Or the Wilpons have been screwing up the franchise so badly that it's a toxic place for managers/players to succeed.

Bob G
Bob G

@banging3s This is the problem when your GM ignores who's in the uniform and only cares about a system. According to Sandy, if we all take a couple of pitches, we're all major leaguers to be. It's all statistics right? 


As a matter of fact, the Mets could save money and not buy bats. Perhaps we could get hit a few times and walk a few times, heck even have the other pitcher throw a wild strike three. If we stick to the plan, we're a championship team!


Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@banging3s  Comparing Omar to Sandy is like comparing apples and oranges - you can't do it.

Sandy's been terrible with his FA signings, but I think it's way too early to say that he hasn't won any trades.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@Mario Arduini I think they are going to have to trade for a SS..if so id put Flores at 1st everyday..i would think hes eventually a 275-16 hr 80 rbi guy.. and that is better than Duda.Has to be some reason hes driven in 75 or more rbis 4 times in the minors.

owlnut
owlnut

@stage52 Why do you say Terry is a bad manager? Just because he wants offense and sits a player batting over .300? Just because he doesn't know how to use his pitchers? Just because he thinks Duda is a good first baseman? Just because he sits players brought up from the minors instead of playing them? I'm afraid he will be here through next year.

stage52
stage52

@artie412 What you are seeing from Duda is all you will ever get from him.

Evan Halperin
Evan Halperin

@artie412 so often have mets players hit meaningless homers to pad their stats and give the appearance of being "good." MO vaugn hit about 9 homers after they were losing by 6 runs in the 9th inning. 

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@artie412 Horrible If Duda is gonna be a .240-18 hr 60 rbi guy  is this our future 1st baseman?

Bob Primosch
Bob Primosch

@Father Dooley I wandered through that desert during my formative years -  the current edition is better because the pitchers have more upside than Craig Swan etc.  Also, the closest thing they had to David Wright was Lee Mazzilli and that lasted about 15 minutes.  Citi Field may be bad but late 70's Shea was a strip mall with a baseball diamond.  You could park an aircraft carrier in the first base mezzanine and not hit anybody.

There was only one good moment that I remember after 1973 -- the return of Tom Seaver after they foolishly traded him to Cincinnati.  I was there that day and have never forgotten it.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@Father Dooley I cannot lie to a man of the cloth.  They might not be that bad, but they're pretty close.


2014 vs 1978 Mets starting lineup:


Travis d'Arnaud         C     John Stearns

Lucas Duda               1B     Willie Montanez

Daniel Murphy           2B     Doug Flynn

Miguel Tejada            SS     Tim Foli 

David Wright              3B     Lenny Randle

Chris Young                LF    Steve Henderson

Juan Lagares             CF     Lee Mazzill 

Curtis Granderson     RF    Elliott Maddox

I'd probably go with The Dude over d'Arnaud and Henderson over Young.  Would also play Maz out of position at first in place of Duda. Despite the fact that I have no love for Tejada's skills, Tim Foli was worse.

dooley
dooley

I remember the early 90s Mets, and that would be a very close call

Although that team was expected to win

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Father Dooley  I do and the late 70s Mets were far worse. Their were no stars on those teams with not even the promise of young pitching on the horizon.

Bob G
Bob G

@Father Dooley I do father. I went to more games then than I should have. Those teams were made up of poor or old/has been major leaguers. This team is made up of players who aren't major leaguers..so which is worse. Those who can't play, or those who can no longer play? Sounds like a toss up.

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

Why is this f&cking comment pending??? WTF????

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@Pete Brilvitch @banging3s More like comparing Typhus to Dengue Fever. Sandy had a track-record but that was long ago, in a galaxy far away. Omar had a great deal more money to play with but made equally dreadful signings.

artie412
artie412

@stage52 @artie412 I am beginning to see that after 28 or so, MOST players don't magically improve. In Duda's case, I agree. The cake is baked.

stage52
stage52

@artie412 @stage52  The funny thing is that Duda was much more aggressive in Triple A than he ever was up here.  I saw him play a lot in Buffalo and it is almost like a switch has been turned off and with it his aggressiveness.

stemog
stemog

@Pete Brilvitch @Father Dooley @stemog Think about it, in 1977, '78 and '79 combined, the Mets drew less than 3 million TOTAL! We wouldn't have a franchise today if something close to that happened, so watch what you wish for.

stemog
stemog

@Father Dooley Anywhere close to those numbers today, the franchise would be moved out of New York.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@fatherflot @Albert E Lewis @Father Dooley @stemog john stearns?.. MAN had balls of steel.

stemog
stemog

@Father Dooley @stemog Anyone remember the attendance back then? How about 788,000 in 1979 and 704,000 in 1981!