The competition at 1B will continue into the season

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Ike Davis and Lucas Duda will both be on the Opening Day roster, Sandy Alderson told reporters earlier this week.

“It is not ideal,” a team official said (New York Post, Mar. 27).

Two things are happening here, 1) Duda and Davis missed so much time this spring and did nothing to differentiate themselves from one another, but also 2) The Mets will need a DH the second week of April when they travel to play the Angels.

Ike Davis and Lucas Duda (Baron)I don’t like carrying both beyond Los Angeles, because it’s going to be a daily drama asking who plays when, why, against whom, etc. If I’ve learned anything it’s that to be successful, baseball players need to know what is expected of them in their role – whether it’s a regular platoon, everyday job, pitch only against lefties, etc. In this case, with Ike and Duda, they’re basically platooning with one another in a larger platoon with Josh Satin.

This can’t go on forever. I like Satin against left-handed pitching. He can be paired with Davis or Duda and result in a slightly above-average first baseman. The other needs to either be traded or sent to Triple-A.

The Mets don’t have a deep enough team to run with a platoon inside of another platoon.




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A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

I wonder if at some point during season the "Cambell soup " kid won't prevail over both..just sayin.

Andrew Sodergren
Andrew Sodergren

Just wish Sandy would take the best deal for one of them and move on. Or make some kind of deal to alleviate this logjam. I would be fine with this situation if they had actually acquired a shortstop. But they didn't, meaning the Mets have essentially two backup shortstops and three backup first basemen on the team. Neither Tejada or Q would start anywhere else and it's pretty hard to find a worse 1B situation than the Mets have as well. Maybe the Pirates (who are so bad at the position, they've shown interest in Ike).

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Just the same old thing, the Mets appear afraid to make a desicion, afraid to get rid of the wrong first baseman afraid to trade the wrong pitching prospect, and afraid Tejada would turn back into a decent player with another team. Alderson is a very smart man, but so far with the Mets he's only traded away older players who weren't going to stay with the Mets anyway.

Alderson is a afraid that Davis or Duda will hit 30+ home runs for another team! He's afraid Montero or deGrom will be a solid starter for another team if he trades them for a prospect shortstop.

If the Mets want fans to come out they have to be bold, pick a first baseman and trade the other and not worry what they are going to do for their new team, time to be bold and trade some pitching prospects for a shortstop, who can either hit or field.

Be bold Mets, get some extra butts in the seats in CitiField in April and May, try to be a .500 team when Montero and Syndergaard come up in June and then CitiField will be full. If you settle for what you have now and you are 10 games out when they come up, and fill CitiField only when Thor pitches.

xplr
xplr

I've been saying all along that the ONLY solution is a platoon between Satin and Ike/Duda. I agree with the article as I think one of the lefties will be demoted or released this month. I'm betting Ike survives.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Seems to me they just keep beating a ''dead'' drum  with Duda and Davis when it comes to 1st base..Id like to see what Flores could do at first base  for 150 games.

upstaphan
upstaphan

Mets could have signed Jose Abreu and Drew and put a respectable major league team on the field for a modest payroll. Instead they refused to increase payroll, have minor leaguers competing for starting jobs, and kept ticket prices sky high because the owners are broke crooks. LGM!

tullydew
tullydew

An $82 million dollar payroll is such a joke.

This ownership is cheap and an embarrassment.

manicmesia
manicmesia

Very few people were really upset when they traded Pagan to SF and he played well and won a world series because people realized he didn't play like that for the Mets and most likely never would.


If they let go of Davis or Duda and they turn out to be solid major leaguers... so what?  It happens to every team.  They aren't going to do it in Met uniforms so who cares.

tullydew
tullydew

Stop being cheap and sign Morales.

Mont5
Mont5

Yeah ok like last season. What a joke.

MetsOregon
MetsOregon

So the Mets plan to use guys who can't hit as DH?

arbt
arbt

Should be a heated competition. Ike is hitting .208 and duda .211 this spring. Can't wait for the season to see how this plays out. I also can't wait to see the tejada Omar Q. competition at shortstop. 90 wins here we come!!!

slainte2
slainte2

Our bench against LHP starter will be Duda, Ike, Q, and EY (and Recker, limited as PH as only other catcher on roster).  That is one weak set of PH options against LHP.  Brown needs to be on team for some late game pop.

tk2120
tk2120

we literally have 3 roster spots worth of first basemen, none of which are mlb quality first basemen.....

buddyryan
buddyryan

Davis vs. Duda, is like Islanders vs. Sabers....does it matter?

vince1234
vince1234

I really like a Sating platoon against left handing pitching as well Matt. That is untill Major league scouting reports pick him apart and he shows why he is a AAAA player.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Satin's defense at 1B was somewhat lacking this Spring.  I was not overly thrilled with his offense though it might be adequate.  He doesn't really seem like "the" answer, though he might be useful on the bench.  I find it interesting Campbell has gotten like no notice.  He actually hit.  He would be an interesting short term bat to have. 

nolrog
nolrog

>>> 1) Duda and Davis missed so much time this spring and did nothing to differentiate themselves from one another, but also 2) The Mets will beed a DH the second week of April when they travel to play the Angels.

1) If they don't know what Duda and Davis are able to do by now, then they have no business running a team.

2) They play a total of 10 games in AL parks this whole year where they will need a DH (less opportunities for Duda/Davis when you factor in lef thanded starters).  The Angels have 2 lefty starters, so they will likely see one, if not both durnig the series, meaning that the DH will be a righty.  The whole DH thing is a red herring.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

I'm ok w this but if they both underperform they better be gone after a month or so.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

It's funny.  Say Ike takes the job and runs with it...it's unlikely, yes...but why are we trading or releasing Duda?

We'd finally have a bench guy with power capable of drawing a walk....and the sentiment is to get rid of him?

stemog
stemog

@ifti99 There's no way they can continue with three guys taking up one spot on the roster.

vimets
vimets

@tullydew What should the Mets payroll be?

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@tullydew I agree with you--especially in the #1 market in the country. Unacceptable! My gut feeling is that they are still in somewhat dire financial straits, just keeping it quiet.

slainte2
slainte2

@vince1234

that hasn't happened yet, and will still be better than Duda/Ike against LHP

nolrog
nolrog

@BringBackDaveTelghe What makes you think Duda can be a decent bench player?  Typically, guys on the bench serve multiple roles; a pinch hitter and a utility guy that can back up multiple positions.  Duda does not give them the flexibility that they need from a bench player in terms of backing up multiple positions (or coming in as a defensive replacement like Lagares could.)  Plus, we have no idea how he would hit as a bench guy.  There are much better options for this roster spot.

grillruben
grillruben

@BringBackDaveTelghe I agree with your point, however with that said Duda has admittedly said he gets nervous in big spots. He also struggles in rbi situations. Not the ideal pinch hitter in my opinion.

ken1010
ken1010


I believe they would be more profitable if they built a team for 90-to-95 wins, were in the race every year, and drew 3 million fans.  Not every team in every city can draw 3 million fans, but the Mets have proven they can.

Thus I think the Mets payroll should be whatever it takes to get to 90-to-95 wins, where we will all enjoy a pennant race, go to the ballpark, be proud enough to buy merchandise, and the Mets will make a boatload of money, far more than they do now with this go-cheap approach.

The current team and payroll cannot realistically be expected to hit 90+ wins.



tullydew
tullydew

How about a top 10 payroll. This is NYC, is that too much to ask?

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@Kenneth Meltsner @tullydew Remember, they still have a $600M loan out there coming to maturation next year. That is quite a number. They are completely leveraged out. An owner with a conscience would do either two things: Sell, or move monies from their other businesses to support the team financially until the loan is paid off. It is apparent they are not willing to do that.

grillruben
grillruben

@BringBackDaveTelghe @grillruben 

He has a good eye, and some pop, both are facts. However he doesn't drive in runs, and doesn't get a lot of hits. Every off season you can find this type of player. Maybe a Reynolds, a Dunn, and so on. There are so many players you can plug in at 1b and hit 25 plus hr's so why do we need to keep trotting out Duda?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@grillruben @BringBackDaveTelghe I don't think it's all nerve problems.  You're making it a bit too easy / convenient.

His career batting average with RISP and slugging are both low but his OBP is just fine.  I think it's an issue of him being a bit too passive in those situations.  I'm not trying to say the guy is a great player or anything, just that he knows how to draw walks, and has decent power.  There's massive value in those two skills.

grillruben
grillruben

@nolrog 318. Listen, we know what Duda is. He is a mark Reynolds light. If he is lucky. I just look at Duda as part of the fat we need to trim to move forward. He's nothing special. Maybe he can go to a smaller market, like a KC and hit 25-30 hr's, but he's not built for this team.

nolrog
nolrog

In how many at bats?

grillruben
grillruben

@BringBackDaveTelghe @grillruben

He's 1-12 his last 2 seasons as a pinch hitter. He hit 15 hrs in 2013 in 100 games yet only drove in 33 runs. He's admitted he has nerve problems. Lucas Duda is a giant man who can occasionally hit a hr. I'm cool with him on my bench, I just don't think he is anything special. His biggest weakness is driving in runs, and that's a big problem.

mets2014
mets2014

@BringBackDaveTelghe @mets2014 especially those posting from facebook...I feel like I'm in the twilight zone