New York Mets vs Washington Nationals

The Cardinals-type plan for the bullpen

Terry Collins said he’s going to approach his bullpen like the Cardinals did in 2013, using young, power arms from the minor leagues to set up closer Bobby Parnell (Kernan, Feb. 4).

“We’ve got to fix our bullpen,” Collins said (TC Palm, Feb. 4). “We’ve got some young candidates; we’ve got some good arms with Vic Black. We don’t know who the fifth starter is going to be yet, but this game today, due to the way the pitching is being run, your bullpen is so very important. We have got to make sure that’s a priority as we go though camp.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The signed Kyle Farnsworth to a minor-league deal Monday. And, they are reportedly looking to sign another free-agent reliever. These men, along with right-handed pitchers Gonzalez Germen, Carlos Torres and Joel Carreno, as well as LHPs Josh Edgin and Scott Ricewill compete to join Parnell and Black.

The Mets say Rafael Montero will compete for the fifth starter spot. I still believe he’ll get to the big-leagues as a reliever. He’s a small pitcher, he’s got pinpoint control, they say, and I’ve had more than one MLB player development person predict to me he could be outstanding in relief.

In addition to Montero, minor-league starting pitchers Jacob deGrom and Cory Mazzoni will probably make noise in the spring as possible relievers. And, later in the summer, the team could look to promote minor-league relievers Jack Leathersich, Adam Kolarek and Jeff Walters.

They have options. The problem is there is no way to know how this is going to play out. It’s going to be a work in progress. Then again, most successful bullpens in MLB are…

 

26 comments
Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Am I alone in feeling that I don't want Kyle Farnsworth anywhere near Citifield in 2014?  What is this obsession with kicking the tires on every over-the-hill closer who becomes available? The Pirates wanted no part of this guy, who did not do all that well back in the Bronx a few years ago. Hey, Sandy, if you really want a past-his-prime guy who has lost 5 mph off his fastball you could probably sign Mel Rojas for a song. And if you are remotely serious about bringing back Frankie Rodriguez, why not take another look at Frank Francisco--another hard-working role model for the kids and all-around good citizen?

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

Scott Rice is a LHP....
Plus what about Ryan Reid?

airfeet
airfeet

Montero will not be a reliever off the bat, unless he fails as a starter.  He has all the makings as a starter at this point in time. 

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

So the plan is to save money on the bullpen, by using up the options on minor league pitchers.  Now that's confidence.  Someone tell Terry that he isn't managing a team like the 2013 St Louis Cardinals.

cver
cver

Please stop with the Montero as a reliever.  It hurts me every time I hear that.  Let this kid do his thing and we might have a chance - or they'll pull a Mejia with him to save Terry's job.

Ed Renner
Ed Renner

Scott Rice is Lefthanded...right Matt

hashburry
hashburry

What is it with the "these men" references in every post now?  What happened to "players", "guys".  I love when Metbloggers think they have hit on some new jargon.  "In other words", just found the thesaurus option on the word processor.

mike23
mike23

Need to get someone that has legit closing experience in case Parnell has any set backs etc.... if the mets don't address the pen before opening day (and I mean by adding solid experience and proven track record than they are setting themselves up to fail. You can't count on so many young arms and you can't rely on Farnsworth (he may surprise and pitch well in 14') but mets need to go get a legit bullpen arm. 

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

"I still believe he’ll get to the big-leagues as a reliever."

Of course you do.

Because you are right about as often as a broken clock whose hands have fallen off.

 

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

RAFEAL Montero will bat leadoff against RHP Scott Rice, who will throw with his RIGHT arm to C Travis D'ARNUAD.


Expect Tejada's TENOR with the team to continue until he again gets hurt DIVING into first base.


Rick Ankiel might still PITCH for the Mets, while Pedro Feliciano surely was better than Sid Fernandez.


Please stay tuned for more 5th grade level "reporting" while Matt gathers misinformation, disinformation, and noninformation from all the places he goes a'gatherin'.





ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

Scott Rice is a lefty.


And Montero's first name is spelled RAFAEL.


You sad, pathetic, lazy embarrassment to people with intelligence, knowledge, and self-respect and to baseball  in general.


Matt, you being the Mets' official blogger is exhibit A of all that is wrong with this team's interface with the public.

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

Hahaha! Delete my comment but don't fix your embarrassing, pathetic mistakes.


Your site has been eclipsed by another, and know that people are working hard to have them replace you.


Your pathetic laziness is really laughable at this point.


You need a new job that you can manage to almost do plausibly.

sayhey24
sayhey24

With our teams lack of run production it will be very important to have guys that can handle the constant stress of pitching close to the vest. I like the thought of young, hard throwing guys, but they need to also have control and calm.

Zach Ripple
Zach Ripple

Since when did the perspective on Montero become "he's destined to be a reliever"? Last I checked he's been one of the best minor league starting pitchers in the game the last few years. He's entering his age 24 season (same as Mejia). We're giving up on a guy who's been dominant before he gets a chance to start in the Majors? Doubtful. I've heard that he might move to the bullpen to stay under his innings limit late in the season, but not full-time.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Listening to the "Montero is destined to be an RP because I talked to someone (now it's multiple) people in the industry" really is hard to get through.

gasparsarm
gasparsarm

Nothing wrong with starting out with a bunch of guys you think will do well, then 2 months in replacing the guys who are burning out, or losing their focus with whoever is hot in the minors.  Sometimes you get part of a season from a guy an that's all he's got, and then you bring in someone else who can run with that role in the bullpen for awhile longer.  Seems to me many times the marginal bullpen guys have a good 3 months in them.  With all of the guys we have in the minors and all the options on those guys, we are positioned to do that if we need to.


drewos555
drewos555

Please stop with the "I still believe he’ll get to the big-leagues as a reliever." All indications are he is a starting pitcher and I have not read anywhere other here to expect otherwise.

sosh
sosh

but rice is a lefty....

hlow24
hlow24

pinpoint control is usually not cited as a reason a pitcher becomes a reliever rather than a starter.  Usually if that pitcher is starting and has great control, thats a good reason to keep him a starter.  He maintains control throughout games, doesn't walk people, is efficient, etc.  Also, I don't know why you have to say that He has pinpoint control, "they say".  You can look at his numbers yourself Matt.  The guy barely walks anyone.  I hate this "slight build" bs, the guy is starting in AAA and getting guys out easily.  How is that a problem for starting?  

Poop-a-doodle-doo!
Poop-a-doodle-doo!

Problem is, we don't have the same personnel level as the Cardinals.

sayhey24
sayhey24

They were saying the same thing about one Pedro Martinez. You have to give him a chance to do what he's successfully been doing his entire career to date.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@hlow24How did Harvey hold up with his "big build"? lol.  I love when I hear that stuff too; make no sense.  It's about the ligaments elasticity and not how tall someone is or how big their bones are.   Kris Benson is the biggest/ strongest dude i've ever seen in my life and his shoulder never let him have the career he was intended to have, while Billy Wagner and Petey only broke down after their prime.  John Franco doesn't exactly seem like Superman either...     

Matt Drucker
Matt Drucker

The real problem is even if mets had equal talent in the pen as the Cardinals they would still go with washed up pitchers. God forbid they bring up a young guy with talent. Can't speed up arbitration for them.

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

@bobblehead  

Hahaha! McDonald's might work, but my guess would be that when he works the drive thru people who order McNuggets will get hamburgers and when you order a black coffee you'll get a vanilla shake.

I never comment here, but I stop by for headlines sometimes, and it is so painful to read this idiot's "work."

Every time he writes Montero's name he spells it wrong.

How can he consider himself a serious fan if he thinks Rice is a righty?

It's like when he wrote for weeks that Tejada was hurt diving.What's worse, his pathetic mistakes or the fact that they get repeated again and again? And which scouts are calling Montero a reliever as he continues to rise in the eyes of everyone but Cerrone?


The comment section shrinking to nothing but a bunch of Facebook imbeciles is truly poetic justice. As it will be when Joe replaces Cerrone as official blogger of the Mets.


We should petition SNY and the Mets to make that happen.


Cerrone's just a joke and an embarrassment.