Terry Collins Sandy Alderson

Terry thinks September is going to mean ‘something’

The Mets have scored the fewest amount of runs in baseball since the All-Star break, during which they are 12-13.

According to Sandy Alderson’s often-referenced Pythagorean W-L record, though they now have a -4 run differential and they have played like a team that should be 60-60 (Baseball-Reference, Aug. 13). Instead, they are 57-63 and in fourth place in the NL East.

Nevertheless, despite being six games back of the Wild Card with 42 games to play, Terry Collins said Tuesday he still believes his team can make a run at the playoffs.

“I’m really excited, because I think September’s going to mean something,” Collins said.

Alderson later said he doesn’t disagree, though he also said finishing at or above .500 is an important goal for the organization.

The Mets haven’t been above .500 since the first week of May.




173 comments
Peter Bartoli
Peter Bartoli

The goal should be break 500 this season...that is about it. September 2015 is when it will matter

William John Dwyer
William John Dwyer

No Terry...no...just keep your trap shut for heaven's sake. Maybe those words of encouragement means something somewhere else. This is NY, and not the glorified one. You will not turn this group of sourpusses around with words. Actions, my friend. Actions. Keep your head down, shut up and play. MAYBE, you'll survive as Manager...MAYBE. The Wilpons have an opportunity to capitalize on this off-season. More so then in prior years. The return of their golden boy Harvey. It's time to stock up on more than just the AAA flavor of the month. It's time to give this team a fighting chance.

Ben Whetstone
Ben Whetstone

Does he forsee the #Mets suddenly scoring runs the month of September?

Does it dawn on anyone in the mets organization that when they send down players who are hitting to AAA they rip the heck out of the ball. Just maybe its Wally Bachman making some changes to there swing. Terry must go now!!!!!

James
James

September is going to mean something to TC because he will be going through the motions of his last month as a big league manager.  It will be a very emotional time for him I am sure.

triviaace
triviaace

TC is an incompetent manager and deserves the ax.  However, with SA running the showthat will not happen as long as the Wilpons continue to reap profits.  So, it looks like another losing season for TC making 4 in arow mainly because SA saddles him with over-the-hill bullpen pitchers who he continues to overuse.  The SA/TC team let HoJo go as batting coach because the team was anemic at the plate and still are.  One of HoJo's recent comments was that "they wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do".  It's too bad that this once proud franchise is a joke.  New management is urgently needed so we don't have to listen to TC's bubbly comments about haw good the players are and the pitches were "tumbly".

TC talks about meaningful September games . . . but manages as if the rest of the season is about learning about his players.  So, last night Mets down 2 - 0 with 2 outs, a runner on in the bottom of the 5th, Montero 90 + pitches, clearly running on vapors--having just escaped a major jam in the via a fairly lucky freak double play--instead of pinch hitting, Montero bats, inning ends, 3 batters into the top of the 6th the game is 5 -0.  Game over.  What was the point?  Everyone who was paying attention saw exactly what Montero had and what he didn't.  So instead of a positive experience, a 5 inning outing limited to the 2-run Harper HR, Montero winds up with a failed outing.  Aside from all the other issues at play here, it is an insult to the fans who might still be paying attention out of some desperate hope that their team might still overcome and put a few wins together.  Intolerable--Mark

Derek Lee
Derek Lee

He is a bigger idiot than I thought. And he thinks the fans are just as dumb

stage52
stage52

Most Met Fans hope this is the last September they see Mr Collin's in a Met Uni as the Met's  Manager

jsecurity
jsecurity

I missed it. When did the goal change from 90 wins to .500? ACCOUNTABILITY.

Luis Torres Quiñones
Luis Torres Quiñones

Mets played .500 after the break last season, doing the same this season. The Mets will win 74-75 games.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Talk is cheap and so are the Wilpons...so Sandy show us what you can do to improve this team!

Art Dockerty
Art Dockerty

Next years stat to show that they had a goohow many foul tips hit the groundand then if they hit the ball out of the infield. If they can do that 60% of the time and the wind blows out we may have meaningful games in May.

gpopper
gpopper

LMAO, my laugh for the day.

upstater
upstater

Yes it is going to mean that we won't have to listen to Terry's inane press conferences anymore.

joe21
joe21

something could mean anything or nothing, no?

Max Denby
Max Denby

I am not a fan of Collins.  At All.  But I don't mind this. He needs to be the one who believes.  BUT if they have any hope they MUST win the next two games versus the NATS. 

Kevin John
Kevin John

I'm going to try to stop coming back to this blog and do a little fantasy football research.

bklynlou
bklynlou

If the Mets have a meaningfull Sept it will be inspite of collins

joe21
joe21

I don't usually get on the Trash Terry bandwagon, but this is just an unnecessary and idiotic comment that invites scorn. Just be quiet and do your job, which does not include speculating about meaningful games in Sept.

JasonMiles
JasonMiles

he's the only one who thinks that because I just don't see it. First of all David Wright has to start to hit some freakin Home Runs and drive some runs in

bklynlou
bklynlou

We have to beat the nats that all there is too it just like we took care of Philly the have to start beating washington

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

If there is any chance of being excited in September, the mets need to win the next two games. I dont think they will nor do I think they have the talent to run off the winning streak capable of catapulting them into contention. This team has not had a 5 game win streak in a long time....what makes us think that they can run off that type of streak with this offense.


I personally feel they, say things like this to keep us interested and most importantly, fans coming to the park. They definitely can't say anything negative about the teams chances. I would prefer they just plead the 5th and play out the season. 

bklynlou
bklynlou

Meaningfully game in Sept what's he smoking give me some then we can both f---ed up

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

On one hand...it's kind of sad since he's clearly delusional...

On the other, this is his last chance of managing in the majors, he may as well have false belief and if he somehow is right he looks like a "genius".  (Not sure he's ever been called  THAT before!)

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

He's right.  I'm looking forward to football season too. 

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

The poor guy has Wilpon Fever, Forgive Him!

Tom Batton
Tom Batton

When was the last time this team saw .500 in August? But playoffs say the shills.

matmil
matmil

Those are the things which will eventually get Collins fired. It is questionable whether he really is going for wins or just playing out the season. If he wants the fan base off his case he better get this team to 500. With this pitching staff that is the least he could do.

matmil
matmil

Probably before the all star break but nobody mentioned it.

James
James

@Luis Torres Quiñones We were not at all a .500 club after the break last season, we were 33-38


TC has never had a second half over .500 and most years has played much much worse in the second half than the first (like 2012 where we were 46-40 at the break and 28-48 after the ASG)

Luis Torres Quiñones
Luis Torres Quiñones

@Max Denby The Mets have played "must-win" games since the all-star break and they have lost most of them.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Let's say his shoulder is even remotely an issue. The last thing you want him to do now is swing for fences. If you listen to what TC and DW have said, Wright wasn't happy with his results coming out of ASB and he tinkered. Seeing that he had his best stretch of season right before ASG, have to assume he meant power numbers. He starts trying to pull everything, grounds into oodles of double plays and strikes out in droves. TC and Keith say his swing got long and reference a time in past season where he hit almost 400 first half and then tried to hit for more power and hit .250 second half. Cano hits third and has 10 HR but is batting .320. Think DW should go back to that strategy. Consider this. For as bad as DW has been, he's been on base over 150 times (hits/walks) and hasn't even scored 50 runs. He drove himself in 8 times and 26 hit were doubles which put him in scoring position. Need more quality bats. And how about Grandy these days??

jsecurity
jsecurity

They won 8 of 10 before the ASB. Then came out flat. They are capable of putting themselves in contention. I just question whether TC can get it out of them or has he lost the teams respect.

gpopper
gpopper

It's not only Wright, but he is a big part of it. It's everyone at one time or another. The team has no consistent hitter outside of Murphy, who as anyone else, has his slumps too. They lack situational and clutch hitting. It's the face of a sub .500 team.

stage52
stage52

@mustang66  It did not help the Mets batters mostly just stayed in the batters box and let Fister pitch as fast as he wanted the whole game.  Step out on him once in awhile to break up his speed .  Is everyone running this team asleep in that dugout during the game?

Ray Carattini
Ray Carattini

@jsecurity  Any chance of contention died last week when Bryce Harper walked off after sticking the nail in the coffin for the 2014 Mets.