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Terry Collins third on Bovada list for hot-seat managers

Las Vegas oddsmaker Bovada sets Terry Collins third on its list of most likely MLB managers to be fired this season (ESPN, Apr. 2).

The Mets and Collins agreed to a two-year contract extension this past winter, which contains an option for 2016.

“Terry has done an outstanding job for us,” Sandy Alderson said at the end of last season, during which the Mets won just 74 games for the second consecutive year.

In Alderson’s view, Collins had an outstanding year, his team never quit, they played hard, they continued to play with limited resources and finished as well as could have been expected.

“We are certainly not happy with the win-loss record the last year, or last year three years,” Collins said at his October press conference. “We’re very excited about 2014. It’s time to put some wins on the board.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

These odds are absurd, especially for Collins. Alderson clearly believes Terry is the guy to – at the very least – lead this year’s team and next year’s team, otherwise why would he have brought him back? It’s my understanding that Alderson committed to bringing back Collins as early as last summer, but simply held off making making it public because, well, I guess anything is possible in New York.

As I said in October last year, I’m fine with Terry being back at manager. He’s not the best or worst at his job. The players like him, they respect him, he has a good energy and he knows the farm system inside and out, which is going to be important the next few years. This team’s bigger problem is the overall roster and having just one – maybe two - impact bats. Terry is the least of their concerns…




100 comments
williedd
williedd

Yes, Collins is a great cover man for the Alderson-Wilpon deception.

But he is rapidly achieving the apex of his incompetence. He has a litany of excuses that he should practice chanting. I have great compassion for the younger ball players on this team. They receive a daily dose of this cavil.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Tell TC to lay off the bunts and not burn pitchers out as much as he does and I'd be...OK...with him.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

I'm not defending Collins in the least.  He is a good developmental coach/minor league coordinator, but not a Major League manager.  Nevertheless, I can't see his job being at stake this season.  When he got retained, and then Alderson mismanaged the acquisition of players during the off-season, you can only expect him to do so much.  I say if you fire Collins, you might as well clean house.  Alderson served his purpose anyway, he reset the farm system, and drastically cut the payroll.  Once the debt is gone next season, the Wilpons can sell the franchise to someone who really understands that you make money with a baseball franchise in New York by producing winning seasons.

Steve Cowit
Steve Cowit

where are the wilpons on the list of hot seat owners

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

I'll put it this way if terry managed the Indians last year they woulda been horrible

Andrew Cianfano
Andrew Cianfano

Give him a sub par lineup and call him out for it????

Alex Fustinoni
Alex Fustinoni

Terry Collins is not even close to being a good manager. The guy is horrible. His in game managing is horrific. He does not know how to use a BP and he has his favorites and that is not the way he should be managing. Put the best team on the field Terry!!.

BadContract
BadContract

I will take the accuracy of Vegas odds over a SNY/Wilpon whipping boy and the smokey front office any day.

Patrick Dangelone
Patrick Dangelone

How is he # 3 ? .....Fire him and his staff and bring up Wally Backman or Tim Teufel as coach and Frank Viola as pitching coach. Im tired of the same ol over managing. Stop with all of the platoons (1B, CF,SS,5th Starter) . This team needs a younger coach with fresh ideas... Just my opinion. I am a Mets fan for life but boy that first game put a bad taste in my mouth.

Dan Ekshtayn
Dan Ekshtayn

They should bring in Phil Collins to manage instead.

ken1010
ken1010

The GM should always be 100% behind the manager, until the day when he is 0% behind him.  It does nobody any good for Sandy to be luke warm on Terry.

Jason Deger
Jason Deger

Yes because its Terrys fault that the any pitcher brought out of the pen Monday could not throw a strike? Time to stop blaming the manager and look at the field and execution....i think Terry does a fine job and should be allowed to manage a winning team

Mike
Mike

Bovada is not based out of Las Vegas. They used to be out of Antigua, not sure as of now. I do not believe we can bet a prop like that here in Nevada. I am not sure how much of the blame is on Terry, but if this team starts out 10-25 with few fans in the seats, the pressure will be on to pin this on someone not named Fred or Jeff. Looking at the Mets early schedule, that is not impossible. The media has made Sandy's 90-win statement more like a guarantee instead of a target. Being third on that list is far from absurd, it is a smart bookmaker that did that knowing the NY media and that this team could be out of contention before the ASG.

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

Tim Teufel as manager with Joe McEwing (bench coach)...Mike Piazza (hitting coach?

Dionysios Anninos
Dionysios Anninos

Last year, Terry Manuel (NOT A TYPO) stripped 3/4 of the team away from Vegas and brought them to NY. You think we stunk in NY? Look at the roster in Vegas last year! Washouts and emergency call ups from AA and A ball. The difference? Vegas wins their division. On and there was another difference. The managers.

yikes
yikes

time to tune out already, man depressing after game 1..


it is what it is, this team and franchise don't deserve our attention, because they just dont care about a paying the price for a winning product in ny


i can see collins getting the axe for wally ball to appease the fans for another year or two before all the wheels fly off

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

It's simple, if 2014 is as unsuccessful as many experts believe it will be, TC will be gone in order to buy Sandy another year to try to win games.  If this turns into another 70-75 win season, there is no way they can bring this guy back.  Disagree with the odds all you want, but Vegas/Bovada know what they're doing.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

He just signed a contract unless we really go all the way in the tank.  I think Ron Washington of Texas and maybe the Angels manager are on hotter seats 

Curtis Batdorf
Curtis Batdorf

Who cares who likes who? Who cares how much respect Collins gets from the players. Fact is this team stinks. 


1. They already got rid of the GM

2. They got rid of numerous players

3. They drastically cut payroll


Now what?


1. Coaching staff and Collins needs to go


There are only so many changes to make


Even if ownership changes (How great would that be!) Collins and staff need to go.

Richard J Brienza
Richard J Brienza

What does it matter? We wont get anyone who's actually worth a damn when it comes to managing..we'll pick someone else out who hasn't coached in 5+ years

Rob R
Rob R

so we are going on three losing seasons, and looks like a fourth, with no improvement in the win total department, why would the manager not be on the hot seat, if this was any legit run franchise terry would have been gone long ago

rodd
rodd

the metzies will always be my team win or lose because when the giants and dodgers left us, the poor pathetic metzies with all their retreads  tried with casey and others trying to make us a "winning team" god bless them all where ever they are' i was there......

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D

I see upper management has really groomed Cerrone well... he is perfectly content with MEDIOCRITY "leading" this team, making the on-field decisions, and managing the bullpen like an amateur. 

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

He should never have been renewed in the first place. A real whimp of a manager. He sure as hell is not the 2nd coming of Leo Durocher.

rodd
rodd

speaking from on jew to another my favorite yidlach will be on first base, today because of gonzalez pitching

Steve Musicant
Steve Musicant

No manager alive could make this roster into a winner.  The lineup is David Wright and a bunch of nothing.  How is that the manager's fault?  They play hard every day, they're just not that good.  That's on the GM.

BTW, you said "one or two impact bats".  Uhhhhh, I got Wright; who's the second?  Can't even think of a candidate.

Rob Rader
Rob Rader

Nah... With the new contract and the fact they're in the middle of rebuilding he's safe for at least the next 2 years.

Aaron Robert Gusthov
Aaron Robert Gusthov

He's not going to get fired until Sandy gets fired.  He's Sandy's puppet and Sandy is the Wilpon's money saving puppet.  Until there's some new owners or the Wilpon's hit their Powerball numbers get used to mediocrity being acceptable long term. 

Darwin Lo
Darwin Lo

I hate it when a tram doesn't do good they blame the manager. Sure, let's blame Terry for Rubens inability to hit a damn ball.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@SuperDuper When Collins was first hired, I was disappointed mainly because I knew that Alderson only wanted a yes man who he could dictate to him who played, and who was needed.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

I totally agree w everything u just said. Exactly right on the money

owlnut
owlnut

@Mike  If Terry ever learns how to manage the bullpen, he might be a decent manager. He doesn't have a clue.

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D

@Dionysios Anninos  heads up, the "managers make no difference at all" crowd is gonna jump all over you now! The Wally Haters too, watch out!

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

@Eddie Mac Dumb Question. who would do better with the roster as it is? I am not saying Collins is Elite nope but honestly the talent is suspect and that goes more on Sandy then it does on Terry this year at least. 


rodd
rodd

@D  oh hush! you love them, they'll be fine just u wait, our metzies we all love will become winners again.

Raymond Ayling
Raymond Ayling

SANTANNA    HARVEY   PARNELL    NIESE IS NEXT

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@rodd @D  I've been waiting since I was 4 years old in 1986, and they could have murderers row for a lineup and seaver and koufax in the rotation, and i still would have the utmost  confidence in Collins screwing it up. That is just my 2 cents

Alex Fustinoni
Alex Fustinoni

10+ last year!

We're already at 1 this year! we kmight get up to 15-20 this season!