Terry Collins talks Ike, Duda, Tejada, TdA, Granderson and CF

Terry Collins talked with SNY’s Mets Hot Stove on Thursday and said:

  • Jon Niese is the team’s ace and likely to be the Opening Day starting pitcher.
  • Ike Davis will get twice as many at bats during Spring Training than he got last year.
  • Lucas Duda could be part of an outfield platoon.
  • Ruben Tejada is currently the front runner at shortstop.
  • Travis d’Arnaud proved himself to the pitching staff last season.
  • Curtis Granderson will protect David Wright in the batting order.
  • Juan Lagares and Chris Young will compete for center field in Spring Training.

To see Collins discusses the situation with Davis and Tejada, watch this:


To see part two of the interview, where Collins talks about Bartolo Colon, Niese, the bullpen, and the possibility of young prospects from the system getting work as relievers, click here

132 comments
Robby DiLorenzo
Robby DiLorenzo

@mystere24 That will never happen. You never see teams with more than 1 or 2 platoon positions let alone 5. You're nuts if you think Terry will run those lineups out there.

Joe Kurioo
Joe Kurioo

this guy is the biggest idiot ever 

mystere24
mystere24

Best offensive lineup options available to Terry Collins...

LINEUP AGAINST RIGHTIES

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1. EY Jr - CF

2. Daniel Murphy - 2B

3. David Wright - 3B

4. Curtis Granderson - RF

5. Lucas Duda - LF

6. Ike Davis - 1B

7. Travis D'Arneud - C

8. Omar Quintanilla - SS

LINEUP AGAINST LEFTIES

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1. EY Jr - 2B

2. Juan Lagares - CF

3. David Wright - 3B

4. Curtis Granderson - RF

5. Chris Young - LF

6. Josh Satin - 1B

7. Travis D'Arneud - C

8. Ruben Tejada - SS

Robby DiLorenzo
Robby DiLorenzo

All the mets clogs would be solved if Eric young jr could just play SS. The mets should of tried to make him one. Think of how good a lineup of EY Murphy Wright Granderson Davis Young Darnaud Lagares could be. Everyone would hit at least 10-15 homers except EY and Lagares

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

Terry, you're a really nice guy, and probably great with young players, but mention playing Lucas Duda in the outfield again, and I'll start up a website called fireterrycollins.com.

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

TC is the worst manager in baseball and that's a fact...

Andrew Doris
Andrew Doris

Hopefully Lagares and Chris Young competing for CF means that the loser just slides over to LF...because the alternative is putting Lucas Duda in LF, instead of letting him compete with Ike for 1B, which is the only position he can actually play.

personman
personman

If Lagares doesn't play 140+ games in CF, we're doomed.


I mean, we're probably doomed anyway, but with Lagares in center, this is a team that could win 80something games.

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

People, stop taking it so literally when TC and SA talk up Duda as an outfielder, Eric Young as an everyday player, Niese as an ace, etc.  This is part trying to boost their market value and part trying to boost their confidence. 

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

Willing to bet it is a misprint. Eric Young Not Chris Young competing for CF. Chris Young will be in LF apparently competing with Duda, guess they like his bat. As for Opening Day, I'd prefer Colon matched up against Strasburg, then Niese against Gio and Wheeler versus Zimmerman .....Colon, Niese, Wheeler, Gee, Lannan/Mejia/Dice-K

sosh
sosh

EYJ is  4th of and a good guy to bring late in to game on the bases and in the field (like billy hamilton). He should also start for chris young in rf when facing tough righties ( jose fernandez,  strasburg) and for murph at 2nd when facing touch leftys (cliff lee,kewshaw, gio gonzalez) 

Lagares has never not been able to hit in the minors his bat will come along, if he is not in center every day thats stupid.

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

Jon Niese is not an ace on virtually any team in the league except maybe the Astros

Ike Davis getting twice as many at bats? Is that the indirect excuse for why he sucked last season?

Lucas Duda could be part of an outfield platoon. Why??? What has he done at this level to warrant giving him so many opportunities to be in in the lineup?

Ruben is the front runner. (See Duda)

Travis d'arnaud proved himself. Now let us see if he can hit (verdict is still out on him)

The one bright spot on this list outside of Wright and Grandy is Lagares and of course the Mets will figure out a way to screw this guy up. I have an idea! Instead of the stupid idea of platooning Duda who is not an outfielder, why not leave one of the best defensive CF in baseball in CF, move Young to Left as his defense is good and leave Grandy in RF.


This team continues to trip over their own feet

beerfinger
beerfinger

Terry Collins says Jon Niese is the team's ace and will likely be the opening day starter. So many things wrong with that statement. First and foremost the idea that Niese is the best pitcher on the Mets is ridiculous. It's infuriating when people say things in public that are easily refutable and so obviously incorrect. It either says they think we're all idiots or they don't care what we think. In any case, it's obviously they have no respect for us to even pretend to pass Niese off as the best starter on this team. Not to mention if Terry really believes this then he should not be the manager. And if he doesn't believe it and still chooses to pitch Niese first, then he should also not be the manager.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

In the immortal words of Vic Ferrari, "Hard to get happy after that."  I have no problem with giving Ike some extra AB's during Spring Training. Why not? But Duda in the OF?!? C'mon! If you don't learn from the past you will be doomed to repeat it.Lagares has a great season in Winter Ball. Why mess with the guy. Niese is a decent pitcher but the staff ace? Let the best Spring Training pitcher win the assignment. I think many Met fans are frustrated because we honestly believed Sandy had some grand scheme in mind. The past three years have been decidedly underwhelming. And this past off-season has hardly addressed the team's most pressing needs.

airfeet
airfeet

Lucas Duda being part of an OF platoon doesn't make any sense.  Having Tejada at SS, Davis at 1b and Duda in the OF is just more of the same, too much of the same. 

airfeet
airfeet

everything you don't want to hear

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

This is the first I'm hearing that Young is competing for a starter CF position! Please shut up about Duda in the OF. Please.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

TC are you out of your mind? . . . Duda in the OF? . . Now....that is a step in the wrong direction.

gloveman
gloveman

The way I see it if there is not a trade or two where we move some first basemen, then some players need to be released. I do believe in competition, but I also believe in learning from past mistakes. How many times do we need to see Duda blow games by turning the wrong way in the outfield turning outs into doubles? And how many times do we need to watch Davis strike out with men on base? Wasn't last year our learning year? Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Please don't let us dig ourselves into an early hole watching the same mistakes repeated! I can only hope that Collins' and Aldersons' words are meant for those outside the organization, although I really can't believe they are fooling anyone.

Olerud42
Olerud42

Niese is a good pitcher. But he's not an ace IMO. Not even close. 

rkj473
rkj473

There is NO way Tejada should be the front runner for the starting ss spot. He just doesn't offer much to the team other than good defense.


Duda should not be anywhere close to the out field. It should be either him or Ike at 1st base.

slainte2
slainte2

All this nonsense is fine thru Spring Training.  But when season begins, its got to be Duda OR Davis as LH half of 1B platoon, and the other gone ... both are too one dimensional to take bench spot, and neither should get even one start against LHP.  Tejada is a competent backup.  Legares needs to have legitimate shot to hit as an everyday player for at least two months before even think of sitting him.

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

So Lucas is going to platoon and and lagares and young are battling for CF. I want to read how this can be justified as to me there is no justification

Ed Renner
Ed Renner

Jon Neise is the team's ACE? Are you for real. This guy is a nice guy....with a .500 record. If this is your idea of an Ace, then maybe I have been defending Terry for too long.

sayhey24
sayhey24

I'm betting that Collins currently has EY slated for LF.

sayhey24
sayhey24

Right now, we don't have enough offense to win 80 or more games unless 3 or 4 guys play well above expectations. Could happen, but unlikely.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@sosh  Why would we sit our second best hitter against lefties? No, stop. Why would we start Lagares everyday in center field if he hasn't been able to hit in the minors nor major leagues? What evidence makes you think he will get better? I think YOURE stupid.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@Brian Daley  Really He actually did not sound confident about any answer he gave. He was very hesitant on every subject. He does not have his mind made up, but surely he has to think about the best options.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@Victor Triguero  People like you make this blog look like a joke. Lagares is not the best defensive CF in baseball after a nice half season. Get over it, he shouldn't even be on a major league team. 

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@Victor Triguero  Lagares has proved nothing. He played well defensively for half a season. Niese is not an ace but he deserves it more than anyone because he has been part of this franchise for years. 


Im sure you know more than every coach and baseball oriented human being in this franchise though. WHO ELSE should we get to replace Davis, Duda, and Tejada? If you say Drew and Morales, then you're not very logical. We tried Drew for two years or less and he wants a 3 year deal and we do not want to dish out a large contract for a SS with a serious injury history and one that is not all that impressive. Morales has barely been good and not very healthy the last few years and is better suited for an AL team where he can switch between 1B and DH.

zoddie
zoddie

@beerfinger First of all, "opening day" starter doesn't really matter.  Second, who would you start? Colon's new, Wheeler's young, Gee isn't as good, Mejia might be hurt already.  I'm fine with Niese.  Next year it'll hopefully be Harvey, followed by Syndergaard, Montero, Colon, Wheeler (Niese...Mejia...Gee).

beerfinger
beerfinger

Great point. Talking about Niese as if he's the best pitcher on this team in the same breath as considering Duda for the OF once again does very little to instill confidence that this team has learned from it's past mistakes and ready to jump the next hurdle.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@gloveman  Ike could perform better now that we have some extra bats helping out in Granderson, C Young, d'Arnaud, Wright and Murphy. Only time will tell.

zoddie
zoddie

@gloveman I think Duda still has minor league options, so no reason to release him.  He's a good player but is blocked by Ike at first (unless Ike flames out again) and has no business at all in the outfield.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Olerud42 on the staff w/o Harvey, he might be for the time being, depending how Colon does.

zoddie
zoddie

@rkj473 He's better than Q or Tovar, so he's the frontrunner.  And he hit well enough in 2011 and 2012.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@slainte2  You sound so demanding for a silly fan posting on a blog. Im pretty sure they know exactly what to do when that time comes. Lagares has had a shot.. its called minor leagues. He proved nothing defensively nor offensively, so why should they waste their time? He had one half good season and everyone jumps to  say he is the best CF defensively in the league... right... No. He isn't and frankly should NOT be close to a major league team.

mystere24
mystere24

Yes, when you have no leadoff hitter and an All-Star at only one position, maybe two, you platoon.

zoddie
zoddie

Are you seriously arguing against platooning? I guess you don't remember the 1986 Mets.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@sayhey24 Sweet!  We can pay someone $7 million to sit on the bench.  It's Ollie Perez all over again.

Andrew Doris
Andrew Doris

@Steven Matregrano With Granderson and Wright on the team, there's no way Murphy is our 2nd best hitter.

And you know who else hasn't been able to hit in the major leagues? Eric Young Jr. Benching a gold glove CF who tore it up in the winter league for an older, subpar defender WHO ALSO CAN'T HIT is what makes no sense. Young's defensive versatility (ability to play 4 positions in a pinch) and speed makes him a much more valuable bench player than a regular starter.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Steven Matregrano  You do realize Lagares hit .304 in two seasons at AA right? And he basically skipped AAA, only played 17 games at that level. They rushed him to the majors. So considering he skipped AAA and still hit .246 (not .200) there's certainly no way you can say he hasn't been able to hit. And why is it that you keep saying that Tejada is only 24 so we have to give him time yet Lagares is only 24 but he's no good?  

beerfinger
beerfinger

I agree, it shouldn't matter, but once TC places importance on it, that gives it relevance and suddenly it does start to matter. It's bewildering why he say that so early on rather than just allow people to compete during spring training.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@zoddie @beerfinger  Harvey was not slated as an ace. He was slated and ranked as a low #2 or #3 starter. Therefore Wheeler or Syndergaard could easily win out the "ace" spot. So it could be Wheeler, Syndergaard Harvey, Niese, Gee or Montero. Trust me, Niese and Gee will not be pushed aside just because young pitchers come up. Chances are Montero could be dealt along with a guy like Gee, but thats later down the road, when we are assured Harvey is the old Harvey of last season after his injury. You can't just assume he will be an ace quality pitcher after TJ surgery. 

sosh
sosh

@Tarheel11 @Andrew Doris   thank u it seems like u guys agree with me.... why am i hearing that eyj is leading off playing rf... if thats the case it just makes me think the contract we jsut gave terry is a waste of time and david wrights prime

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Andrew Doris @Tarheel11  All I'm saying is that I think it's crazy to rip Lagares and say that he can't hit. He's done it in the minors. If that kid can hit 260-270 with his glove the Met's would love it. With the big ballpark and a good pitching staff which with power pitchers who tend to be fly ball pitchers, you should be putting a kid like Lagares in CF and leaving him alone. Give the kid a shot.