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Terry Collins says to be patient with Travis d’Arnaud

Mets C Travis d’Arnaud was hitless in three at-bats Thursday against Chicago.

He’s batting .184 this season and just 3-for-23 since returning from a concussion at the end of May.

“It’s nothing more than trying to battle through some tough times,” Terry Collins said. “He’s got 120 at-bats. It’s not like he’s got 400. He’s trying to learn how to hit here. … You have to show some patience a little bit.”

D’Arnaud said he feels fine after missing time with a concussion.

“I feel good. I’m just missing balls,” he said (ESPN, June 5). “I’m popping them straight up instead of driving them.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I’m really, really trying to cut him slack. Collins is right. However, it isn’t easy. I know people say he can hit, I know he’s mastered every level he’s played at after equally difficult starts. I know it isn’t easy to learn to hit big-league pitching, while getting beaten up behind the plate and needing to focus on handling your own staff. The thing is, I also see him as a top prospect that was traded twice, who is about to be 26-years-old, who has missed a ton of time due to all sorts of random injuries, and who is looking to very lost when hitting. It’s all very difficult to square.

At the same time, Anthony Recker, Taylor Teagarden and Juan Centeno are not every-day catchers, and Kevin Plawecki, while doing well in Double-A, is in no way ready to take over the big-league job. In other words, it’s d’Arnaud’s job, regardless of his potential or struggles.




152 comments
Michael Zvirblis
Michael Zvirblis

Terry's becoming one of my favorite comics lately.Part Jerry Lewis & part Elmer Fudd.

hashburry
hashburry

What exactly do you want him to say?  Hitting .180 is acceptable?  

Kapalua Mak
Kapalua Mak

I haven't seen all of d'Arnaud's at bats.  I'll let the pros decide whether he needs to be sent down to clear his head.  I do believe that hitting has never been a real issue with him before and sometimes patience is required.  Wille Mays started his career 0 for 12, then 1 for 22.  Watching young talent develop takes time and patience.  As long as there is no catcher who has the potential to be an everyday catcher and the Mets are really only going to be a .500 club at best this season...let's give d'Arnaud to game time without the pressure of losing his job with every bad patch.  

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

I just have to say this. d'Arnaud has been terrible. But to bash a trade where the Mets also got Noah Syndergaard and an OF before either one has been in the majors is ridiculous! They traded a 38 year knuckleballer who won a Cy Young for the highest ranked catcher and 2nd highest ranked pitcher prospects. If d'Arnaud is a bust but Syndergaard is in between Harvey and Wheeler as far as early careers go, then that's a great trade!

melmet
melmet

WHEN D'ARNAUD GETS UP...THE OPPOSING FIELDERS SHOULD ALL TAKE THIER GLOVES OFF TO MAKE IT FAIR!!....YOU DO NOT NEED A GLOVE TO CATCH THE LITTLE POP-UPS AND BOUNCERS HIT BY THAT PUNY LTTLE HAPLESS STIFF...D'ARNAUD SUCKS AND HE IS NOT A MAJOR LEAGUER....END OF STORY!!...HE SHOUULD BE SENT TO THE MINORS...NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN...UNLESS HE LEARNS TO HIT THE BALL LIKE A MAN...I DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT COLLINS OR ALDERSON SAY....D/ARNAUD HITS LIKE A GIRL ON A HIGH SCHOOL SOFTBALL TEAM....GET RID OF HIM NOW!!!

semperfi
semperfi

Staff ERA is a half run lower when Recker is catching plus he is throwing out 50% of the runners attempting to steal as opposed to dArnaud only throwing out 20% and he is hitting a little higher, at least go 50/50 on there starts and give dArnaud a chance to slowly prove himself or send him to AAA and let him play everyday. Promote Plawecki to AAA and get him ready for September call up and an opportunity to make the club next spring at 24, 

monstah
monstah

Even though Recker has not looked good at the plate either, I would rather they play him. Plus he has a better arm and is better behind the plate. Plus Recker has shown power with his bat.

WoodsideNative
WoodsideNative

Be patient? Working through tough times? That what they have minor leagues for. The more Collins opens his mouth the doubt he erases as to whether he should stay or go.

Charles Gustafson
Charles Gustafson

WHY? He can't catch. He doesn't give his pitcher's a target to throw to. Rarely hits. Can't steal a base. Just taking up a roster spot.

hankypanky
hankypanky

In other words, there is no other choice.

theglider
theglider

Let's give up on the guy. It's not like he's only 25. Let's play Recker! That'll be the answer!

d'Arnaud has been abysmal. So do we give up on him after two months? May him and see where he goes. It's not like there are a lot of options.

StayTrueOrangeNBlue
StayTrueOrangeNBlue

Omar was batting .250 and playing a good shortstop, we cut him... CY and Granderson are batting about .200 combined and are getting millions of dollars and dropping fly balls.

StayTrueOrangeNBlue
StayTrueOrangeNBlue

If you're behind Terry Collins, I don't understand you and I believe you don't understand baseball

Bill Donahue
Bill Donahue

Bob Ojeda had a great reply to Terry Collins saying dArnaud is learning to hit up here. He said the major leagues is not where you learn to hit. That's what the minor leagues are for. When you reach the majors you should know how to hit.

upstater
upstater

It's hard to say which of Sandy's trades was the worst, because as of now, not one of them has panned out. They may yet, and some of his draft choices may yet pan out, but 3 years plus into his regime we have yet to see a single positive from his trades or his drafts -- Smith and Cecchini are looking like major busts, as even Kevin Burkhardt admits. This may yet change but as of today his reputed baseball acumen is vastly underwhelming.

Steve Schaeffler
Steve Schaeffler

The Pagan trade was the worst trade of Sandy's regime. The Dickey trade was a must make at the time. Travis just looks lost and I blame it on TC and the mets hitting philosophy of look but don't swing. They need to fire TC before he hurts anymore of the young guys we are gonna need to call up.

ametfanincanada
ametfanincanada

I think he's been on and off the field too much to get any consistency in his hitting. Has there been a time yet when he has had even 300 consistent at bats? You need to be on the field to play, whether you're 20 or 24.

Doubleday
Doubleday

“He’s got 120 at-bats. It’s not like he’s got 400. He’s trying to learn how to hit here. … You have to show some patience a little bit.”  <---- If this is your philosophy, Terry, why isn't Flores in the line-up every night?

Bob Higgins
Bob Higgins

Boo hoo if he cant handle it then quit or learn how to hit !

monstah
monstah

TC is ridiculous. Asking Mets fans to be patient??? We ARE patient - we have had losing teams for four straight YEARS (Collins entire reign) and the two years before that we had teams with winning records that did late season historical collapses.  We are loyal, die hard and some would say insane fans - I really want to see this headline in the not so distant future: Mets Fire Collins.

Tom Zupan
Tom Zupan

I'm sick and tired of Terry Collins and the higher ups playing snake oil salesman. How patient do they want fans to be? Between last season and this season Travis has not combined to hit .200 yet. Add to that the fact that he's a lousy defensive catcher and you have a player that does not belong in the major leagues. The only reason he hasn't lost his job is because Sandy needs to justify his trade. I wish for once Terry would show some passion instead of defending mediocrity.

Mike Caravella
Mike Caravella

I'll be patient with d'Arnaud, just as long as I don't have to be patient with Collins anymore.

Kyle Fischer
Kyle Fischer

He's not squaring the ball? = he's just not that good.  I had trouble squaring the ball too, which is why I'm not playing in the major leagues.  Some people just can't hit.  

eric88
eric88

DARN NO has about 300 ML st bats. Patience is fine when you see progress, not decline. Can we please at least bat .220?

mets2891
mets2891

If anything, d'Arnaud is a warning to all of the Mets fans who are getting a little too prospect happy.  These guys can have all the hype and great projections in the world, but until they do it on the field, they're just maybes.  That's why this team needs to supplement the youth movement with actual MLB talent, even if it means you give up a (gasp) 3rd round pick.

dooley
dooley

That is the first thing I also thought of when I read this article. His quote is not a red flag; it's his performance. It sounds to me that he really believes that he can succeed at the major league level. I really hope he makes the necessary adjustments to be an integral player for our team.

mets41
mets41

@semperfi  yes I agree time to get Plawecki ready and like you said give him a Sept call up

melmet
melmet

@theglider THAT PUNY LITTLE GIRL D'ARNAUD SHOULD BE IN THE MINORS ....AND IF HE CANT HIT LIKE A MAN....CUT HIM AND GET RID OF HIM....CAN ANYONE SAY THEY WILL MISS HIS .180 BATTING AVG AND HIS PASS BALL/WILD PITCHES AND TERRIBLE ARM EVERY DAY???

Scrubs
Scrubs

@Bill Donahue   IMO,  Recker is capable of holding the fort while d'Arnaud gets some extended time in AAA. Recker is certainly not perfect, far from it. and he's 30+.  We are not going anywhere this year. Why the need to school Travis in the majors? The kid is in a world of sheiss mentally. School him some more and see if he can be ready to receive Harvey, Wheeler and Syndergaard  in 2015.

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

@Bill Donahue So who does Bob want to be our catcher instead? Recker? Centeno? It's pointless to waste a season's worth of MLB at bats on catchers who aren't part of the long-term future here. Let Travis take his lumps and figure it out. 

perezfootball
perezfootball

Smith and Cecchini have been major busts? Teenage kids r busts already?? Social Media is def death of this nation as a intelligent society

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

wheeler has been pretty solid... Good rookie year and has been lights out his last few starts. Meanwhile, Beltran has been hurt with the Yankees. Plus, we haven't seen Syndergaard or Herrerra yet. Black has been great since coming back up. I will give you the Pagan trade, cause Torres and whoever that reliever they got were horrendous. Besides that one and d'Arnaud tell me how Sandy has been bad with his trades?

melmet
melmet

@upstater SANDY IS A BUMBLING BABOON!!...I WONDER IF HE WOULD HAVE FLUSHED 22 MILLION DOLLARS DOWN THE TOILET ON YOUNG AND GRANDERSON IF IT WAS HIS OWN MONEY HE WAS SPENDING?/?...IF I WERE FRED WILPON...ALDERSON WOULD ALREADY BE FIRED!!

Jane A Smith
Jane A Smith

The hitting strategy is being forced on everyone by Sandy. TC doesn't have a choice in the matter.

wallbanger
wallbanger

TC? Isn't the current hitting philosophy coming directly from the GM?

lindro88
lindro88

@Tom Zupan  Defend the trade?  Everyone was applauding this trade.  Not a GM in baseball that wouldn't have made the same deal...

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

@eric88 Isn't patience most important when there ISN'T progress? It doesn't take a lot of patience to sit back and smile upon the smooth-functioning success story. 

Doubleday
Doubleday

@mets2891 This is why I had hoped we would have held onto John Buck another year.

eric88
eric88

You are absolutely right.

Tom Zupan
Tom Zupan

@lindro88 I don't disagree with that. It was with great intentions but it didn't work out in the end. And Sandy is holding on to hope that Travis might still work out because that's his legacy. Meanwhile Terry is justifying mediocrity by telling us to sit around and wait.

rock44
rock44

Are you kidding? After a hot streak in April, was horrendously terrible!