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Terry Collins expects players to divulge all injuries

Terry Collins did not know Ike Davis was dealing with an oblique injury early last season, he told reporters in St. Lucie on Monday.

“There’s got to be a conversation, and then certainly it’s up to me to decide which way to proceed,” Collins said about communication between players, coaches and trainers. “I was as surprised as anybody by what I heard.”

The New York Post reported early Monday that Davis concealed an oblique injury from the team for most of last season. Davis later ripped into the reporter, arguing there was no point to the story.

“I sucked last year because I sucked,” Davis said, indicating an injury had nothing to do with his poor season.

Collins said that if Davis had an injury, it would have been detected by any number of people analyzing the player’s swing and conditioning, so he doesn’t not think it contributed to any struggles on the field. That said, pain is pain, and any and all issues are expected to be reported to coaches and trainers, Collins explained.

“If you’re failing at what you’re supposed to be doing, something needs to be addressed,” he said. “If you feel it’s taking away from your game, you’ve got to say something.”

22 comments
Meet The Matts
Meet The Matts

Ike forgot to mention that the sun was in his eyes.

George Brezny
George Brezny

Players go down for hang nails today in fear their career's (money) are in jeopardy if they try to play through it... kudos to Ike for toughening it out.

eric88
eric88

Sandy,

Is it possible that you could do something that I have NEVER seen you do in 4 off seasos so far. Can you please make a trade that does not involve you trading an older player having a great year to a team wiling to overpay because they are contenders. Where is the creativity, and an established baseball practice of trading from strength to fill a weakness. Franklin has nice upside, is only 22 an fills a glaring need for this team, cheaply. With ALL the pitching in this organization, you mean to tell us you can not come up with something that would satisfy Seattle. Come on man, get it done. This kid is filling out and has developing power, and some speed and his average will go up. No matter which pitcher you trade for him within reason, your ball club WILL improve {Tejada, please!].

Joe Kurioo
Joe Kurioo

may be players dont like you T/C get the hint 

Wonder if the team will do the same instead of the usual 3 weeks of denial of any injuries resulting in 6 weeks on the DL. The Mets manage injuries as badly as any team in baseball. Why shouldn't their players do the same?

sylow59
sylow59

I didn't bother to read the post, but - AS A MET FAN - I will choose the exact opposite to point out how much I loathe everything about this team proving, yet again, how much of a Met fan I am. 

rangerrick
rangerrick

I don't get why the team is upset, if it did not hinder his performance (which was still awful) and if it wasn't noticable then why make a big fuss about it. It's funny, Wright has stated publicly numerous times that he plays through injuries. They are looking for any excuse to jump ship on Ike.

hankincolo
hankincolo

Boy, I can't wait until we see these guys on the field. Then, perhaps we'll have something to discuss. Play ball already, please!!!!!

cver
cver

Sorry to say it, but Ike's act was getting tired even before this.  Sure, aches and pains for 162 games in such a short time span - I get it more from his description, but he needs to at least keep the incompetent manager, incompetent training and medical staff and semi-competent GM in the loop on these things.  And that all sounds like a joke, but that's what it has actually come to and it's the truth.  Not only should Ike be severely fined, but so should the GM for keeping the other idiots like Collins, although what he is saying here is true and I'm on Terry's side here.  And Ike went into negotiations on his new contract with the Mets in good faith and didn't tell them what was really going on?!   And what about his options to the minors?  They burned one last year when he should have been on the DL.  Shouldn't they get that option back?!  It was interesting that somebody wrote that he was deliberately fueling a trade.  This guy doesn't really seem that smart, does he?

pillow2274
pillow2274

@metsblog not being unpleasant I like ike but isn't that a little bit putting yourself before the team?

NotoriousPING
NotoriousPING

Great.. Now we're going to hear about this to the end of time

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

No, IKE revealed that he sucked is all.  Making news out of nothing.

Steven Glansberg
Steven Glansberg

The life of a met fan.. Where non stories are always the headlines because the team on the field isn't good enough to warrant a real story

vandelay
vandelay

@Joe Kurioo  Players seem to like TC quite a lot.  That's part of why he still has the job

vandelay
vandelay

@rangerrick  Ike is the one who turned it into a big fuss when he flipped out on the reporter.  TC was just saying what managers typically say...they want players to come to them and let them know what is going on. Realistically, that's not going to happen every time...but if Ike's oblique was enough of an issue that he's still talking about it to reporters a year later...maybe he should've said something last year.

metfan
metfan

@rangerrick  Playing through injuries is one thing, keeping quite about those injuries if you feel it affected your game is another.  Then going and blabbing about it to a reporter but acting like you were surprised when that then makes it into an article is yet quite another.


Davis wants to have his cake and eat it to.  He wants the credit for saying that is not why he sucked but to have you all factor it into the equation anyway.  he lost a lot of points from me on this debacle.

rangerrick
rangerrick

@metfan the training staff, coaches, and himself agreed it did not affect his performance. I feel they're overplaying this they should just let this go, see how he does in the spring, then do as they see fit come the end of spring training.