Bartolo Colon throws to first

Teams yet to contact Mets about Colon

Teams are expected to start calling the Mets about the availability of Bartolo Colon, but that hasn’t happened yet (Puma, July 15).

It was recently reported that the Mets already started getting calls on the 41-year-old pitcher (Cafardo, July 13).

The Yankees, A’s, Blue Jays, Angels, Orioles, Brewers, Indians, Pirates and Mariners have all been listed in reports as teams that could have interest in acquiring Colon.

According to former GM now ESPN analyst Jim Bowden, the Mets can expect to be offered one, good upper-level prospect for Colon (ESPN Insider, June 27).



Colon will earn $9 million this season, and is due $11 million in 2015.




231 comments
rstpigeon
rstpigeon

Calls came in, they didn't come in, a bunch of teams who won't give up a top 100 prospect might want him...


I'm not feeling optimistic toward SA's ability to do anything in trade. Too many teams building or in the hunt to really make a difference. I really would like to see a deal with the Cubs for Castro, Baez, Soler, Alcantara, or Bryant. 

Flocaveli
Flocaveli

Colon and Murphy for Betances and AA prospect

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Hell, I like Jeter as much as the average Met fan. Couldn't Wainwright just have dusted him on general principles? What's the big deal. McClalin grooved one for Micky Mantle back in 68. The problem is with Bud Selig's silly rule for determining home field advantage. How about the team with the best overall record? Or just rotate every other year. With regard to Colon, do the Yankees have anything we really want (or need)? I gotta think the O's or Blue Jays or Brewers might have a decent ML-READY bat. Shortstop and LF are still big issues for this club.

Charles Gustafson
Charles Gustafson

Alderson will either have to give away players at the trade deadline, release who he doesn't want, or field the same mishmash lineup for the rest of the season.

Christian Pezzuti
Christian Pezzuti

Id say it needs to be one ML ready everyday position player type of upper level prospect. I don't want to trade colon for a prospect that projects to be a backup 1B or fourth OF.

Alex Ferguson
Alex Ferguson

Bartolo Colon to the Yankees for Aaron Judge.

ponzies86
ponzies86

NL better step it up the AL is catching up and fast. head to head is now 44-40 NL

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

Alright enough of the Jeter lovefest.  Talk about overdoing it.

borsh13
borsh13

Looks like the mets are gonna need to win a couple on the road in World Series

eric88
eric88

We can take the  division if we play .670 ball the rest of the way. That will give us  about 88-89 wins.

ponzies86
ponzies86

Way to represent the Mets Murph, Hopefully Sandy can get some key pieces for him. 

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

Well..... when the Mets lose the World Series this year because the NL didn't have home field advantage, it'll be Murph's fault for not coming through with 2 men on and a chance to tie the game or put the NL ahead.

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

Wainwright is going to get killed...this is for Home field advantage for the World Series you don't give away hits...and even if you do, you definitely don't tell anybody

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

Would be amazing if Murph can come up and win the game for the NL

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

Castro and Murphy are the guys up the middle...interesting 

John Schod
John Schod

Murph is in as a defensive replacement!

Go Murph!!

sandybgone
sandybgone

now if you tell me we are trading Murphy and replace him with Dee gordon...I would be ok with that lol

sandybgone
sandybgone

Where the hell is Murph? I am only watching it for him

eric88
eric88

Sandy did not fleece teams in the Beltran and Dickie deals. Those GM's wanted those two guys, weighed the price,  and were willing to give up those well known prospects. There was no gun involved. They knew what they were doing. Sandy did not uncover a hidden gem, that would be a fleece.

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

Agree Jeter is a very deserving Hall of Fame but they way everyone rides his jock is annoying...i like the guy but i cant help but hate him sometimes...has nothing to do with him though lol just everyone else

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

Even though it will break my heart I'll take it this year lol sign me up....NL pennant? Sure I'll take it and build on it next year :P

borsh13
borsh13

That's a bad job by him if ur going to give him a pitch to hit keep it to urself what good is Jeter getting a hit if everyone knows he was grooved a pitch

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

If its good enough for the NL all star team it should be good enough for the Mets

Tyler VanRooyen
Tyler VanRooyen

I wonder if some of these people are even Mets fans...

Fact of the matter is, SA knows better than you. He gets paid to make the Mets a winner. It's a business. Buy low, sell high.

jenkins
jenkins

@eric88 He held out for these deals when neither team was biting . But Alderson got exactly what he wanted.. Really, you have no idea of what you're talking about.


Let's try this: ALDERSON WON!

dminches
dminches

@eric88 You are rewriting history.  The Giants did not want to give up Wheeler.  SA held out for him until they said yes.  Regarding the Dickey trade, if you don't think that getting 2 major prospects for a 38 year old pitcher coming off a career year isn't a good trade then you aren't being objective.


And, regarding SA's ability in the FA market, he has very little money to spend.  He did sign Byrd for $700k and got Black and Herrera for him.  Time will tell if those 2 are worth anything.  You cannot rebuild via free agency anymore.  Teams lock up their young stars until they are 30.  By then you are taking a chance on anyone you sign.  

sandybgone
sandybgone

@eric88 trading RA Dickey was an absolute no brainer...you do it again and again. So far, we don't know what the long term result will be but you have potential in a top of the rotation pitcher who throws between 95-97MPH and a C, who although has not been good, was considered at the time of the trade a highly touted hitter. Remember...d'arnuad was the key piece...Thor was not...imagine if they both fulfill the potential? Time will tell


believe me dude...I don't like Sandy...but I don't think the RA Dickey trade was a bad one

James Solomon
James Solomon

@eric88 Totally agree! If the Mets were
trying to contend that year then everyone would have called him crazy for trading away a cy young pitcher for 2 prospects.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Acquiring 2 top prospects who for a 41 year old knuckleballer who hasn't had the type of year he had in 2012 since he traded sounds pretty good to me.

Acquiring our 2/3 starter for 2 months of Beltran, who was aging and had injury concerns sounds pretty good to me.

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

@William Bonilla  Yeah he deserves acclaim and respect but tonight's All-Star Game  should have been re-named the Derek Jeter Game.

sandybgone
sandybgone

@Tyler VanRooyen well to be fair....he has not made the mets a winner yet....when and if he does then the view of him will change for sure

eric88
eric88

@jenkins @eric88 How did he get those guys from those teams if they did not want to trade them?

theglider
theglider

Um, when did Jose Fernandez win a CY Young?

John Schod
John Schod

The Dickey trade was as much about not paying him more money than about getting young prospects!

If baseball is a business, then getting rid of your beloved players and playing infront of a half-filled stadium has to also be taken into consideration!

niesesnose
niesesnose

But they weren't trying to contend. They were rebuilding.

eric88
eric88

@niesesnose Yeah, its good, however you did not dispute my point. He was left 2 gifts and took what the other teams were willing to pay. There was no heist. Uncover a hidden jewel, now that;s where the great GM's make their bones.

borsh13
borsh13

Something I will never understand about Jeter fans is when he was young nobody ever talked about him having great range he was just considered a sure handed ss but when he got older and his range blatantly diminished Jeter fans would love to talk about how good his range is... I've never seen such a good player get so overrated just cause nobody wanted to admit he was getting old

Tyler VanRooyen
Tyler VanRooyen

I'm just an optimist then. I try to realize, I'm a fan not a paid employee who's job is depended on the results of wins and losses.

But, then again, I probably trusted Omar too...

borsh13
borsh13

His initial job was to rebuild this team so I think its fair to say that has been a success but by now the team needed to be more competitive to he is behind schedule in that aspect... I'm very happy with the job he has done so far for our future but he has struggled in some areas and between now and next season he has to make up for his struggles

borsh13
borsh13

They wanted to trade them they just wanted more and sandy was willing to be patient enough to not jump right on the deal he knew he was offering a better deal than they could get elsewhere so didnt panic just waited them out till they settled

borsh13
borsh13

Rookie of the year was close enough to let it slide

dminches
dminches

@eric88 @dminches Really?  I guess no one else knew who he was although he had played for 10 years already in the majors.



niesesnose
niesesnose

They were willing to overpay because Alderson is a good negotiator

dminches
dminches

@eric88 @dminches That doesn't mean it wasn't a good one for SA, which is was.  You are acting like no one can ever get the better end of a deal.  In both cases the Mets did.  They got rid of a rental for a potential top of the rotation starter and a 38 year old pitcher for 2 strong prospects.  That's good dealing to me.


niesesnose
niesesnose

Baseball is a business, and trading Dickey was a good business decision. Trading Dickey would've been insanely shortsighted, and would've hurt the team in the long run. So what if he sold a few more seats in 2013? We wouldn't have our catcher and a top pitching prospect.

mustang66
mustang66

how about Seattle insisting that smoak be involved in the deal and then you've got the angels who just had to have olt. So a top prospect doesn't always work out I think sandy has done very goturning older players into young stars and stars to be

Raymond Kim
Raymond Kim

We sent sf 5 million in the Beltran trade

anymos
anymos

@eric88 @niesesnose Oh, sort of like signing Marlon Byrd off the scrap heap and turning him into Dilson Herrera and Vic Black?

Stop looking for reasons to downplay the positive moves that were made.  You sound like a knucklehead.

niesesnose
niesesnose

He was left 2 gifts and ended up turning into even better gifts, certainly Better than what the former FO would've done with those "gifts." Omar would've traded Dickey for Gose and Arencibia and Beltran for Gary Brown probably.

"He took what other teams were willing to pay." Yes, this is how a trade works. But Sandy drove a hard bargain and the other teams payed too much

borsh13
borsh13

Actually Toronto offered Thor and d'arnaud for neise and sandy refused to do it and was able to get it done for dickey so he made the trade better for the mets

borsh13
borsh13

I felt Omar was getting really unlucky in the beginning but then started to question some of his moves I now realize how bad he was for the mets but at the time I didn't think he was good by didnt think e was bad either... Maybe that's back when I was young and niave

sandybgone
sandybgone

@borsh13 I think you are the only one on here that is really making the right pro Sandy argument...I agree with you for the most part...I still feel he has a lot more to prove...I am not sold on him yet as I feel he has struck out a lot more that hit (Overall) and he just says things that are so questionable...

theglider
theglider

No it isn't. Not knowing facts makes the whole argument suspect.

eric88
eric88

@dminches @eric88 No, he managed Byrd who was considered dead in the water and called Sandy and recommended signing him

eric88
eric88

@borsh13 They wanted a pitcher and got a 20 game winner and took the offer. OK.

borsh13
borsh13

Well I'm basing it on what I can see... I can't judge him trading for mlb players since he has not been in the situation to do so but based on how he has done with trades for prospects I feel he will do a good job... He has yet to make a good signing outside of byrd which was luck but he also signed cowgill who now is playing well pre broken face so that was unlucky... He has the pieces to make the team good next year he has the first real oppurtunity to prove himself and he has to do it

borsh13
borsh13

Yea but that's close enough and proves the same point about how good he is... Speaking of not knowing facts did the mets draft plawecki with the reyes supplemental pick? I feel they did but don't want to use that in my argument without knowing for sure

niesesnose
niesesnose

He then turned Byrd into Black and Herrera

dminches
dminches

@eric88 @dminches There were 29 other clubs that knew he was out there.


Look, you think SA is crap.  You have the right to your opinion, but you are distorting facts to support it.


niesesnose
niesesnose

He's acquired Syndergaard, d'Arnaud and Wheeler in trades. How is that for a talent evaluator? He got Black and Herrera, who's absolutely tearing it up- How's that for talent evaluation? He's drafted Nimmo and Smith, who are both top 100 prospects- Nimmo a top 50. He's drafted Plawecki- a top 50 catching propsect- In the supplemenetary round!

niesesnose
niesesnose

So what Sandy has done in his tenure as GM, is it safe to say the positives outweigh the negatives? Don't look at win loss, because they haven't been trying to contend the past few years but rather clear bad contracts (thanks Minaya!) Nd rebuild the farm.

borsh13
borsh13

I'm just saying Toronto didnt get what they originally wanted sandy held out till they accepted dickey knowing they needed a pitcher which was a good move on his part

theglider
theglider

Yes. They got that pick as compensation for losing Reyes.

sandybgone
sandybgone

@niesesnose to be fair, he got some good prospects but lets see how they fair up here first before we say Sandy is a 100% winner here. So far Wheeler has been ok. D'arnaud has been a bust outside of the last couple of weeks.


As far as his drafts go...his legacy will be known in about 5 years or so. 


he has made some good moves and some bad moves...CY, Frank Francisco, the Pagan trade...and his minor league signings "trying to catch lightning in a bottle" have not really worked out with the exception of Byrd, and I really think he just stepped into s h i t there.


Omar made his mistakes too but we are seeing the fruit of his labor in his drafting. Mejia, Familia, Lagares, Degrom, Niese and Gee, Harvey, Duda, Murphy, Kirk and Campbell to name a few



eric88
eric88

@niesesnose Clear bad contracts, yeah sit and wait, and then payoff Bay. Great.

sandybgone
sandybgone

@niesesnose I think your dislike for Minaya is slightly unfair....when Omar made those moves at the time...you, me...no one complained....just like Sandy....Omar made his mistakes but he also made some great deals for the time as well...and, just like you mentioned in one of your other posts...alot of what Sandy has done will be felt 3-4 years down the road...well a lot of what Omar did is being felt now...


We can say "oh he had money" but some GM's flop even with money...Mets had 4 seasons of 83+ wins. Sadly we had collapses but baseball was a lot more enjoyable...and during that stretch with Willie, we had the 2nd highest winning percentage in Mets history


3/5 potentially 4/5 of our rotation were from Omar...

Harvey, Gee, Niese and Degrom


Our CF, 2B and 1B are from Omar..as well as our closer and set up man..


It is safe to say that Omar was not a complete bust and we are reaping the rewards of his drafts

eric88
eric88

@borsh13 Sandy did not hold out, he HAD to trade Dickie. It's called negotiation.HE added 2 otherplayers.

borsh13
borsh13

Nice I was already wrong about when fernandez was drafted don't want to be wrong twice in one night

niesesnose
niesesnose

Ya, that bench coach really traded Byrd and Buck for Herrera and black.

Jesus you're so blind with you're hated for sandy

eric88
eric88

@niesesnose Black and Herrera were known, and Pitts needed Byrd and Buck.

niesesnose
niesesnose

No. Not even close. Go look at reports of what Alderson would get for Dickey- Mike Olt, Arencibja and Gose, MAYBE d'Arnaud. And then look what he pulled off.

niesesnose
niesesnose

I wouldn't call TDA a "bust." Catching prospects take very long, sometimes multiple years to reach their full potential. Luckily, it's starting to look like d'Arnaud already starting to play like the player he as projected to be. None of his FA signings have really been awful, save FF, it's not like CY is gonna affect this team long term anyway. Wheeler's still a very young pitcher putting up solid numbers.

niesesnose
niesesnose

They bought him out after his 3rd year.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Minaya did some good things and some very foolish things. It's expected though that most players on the active roster would be from him considering Aldersoms only been around for 4 years. You don't replace a whole roster with new homegrown players in 4 years

Bob Giacalone
Bob Giacalone

@sandybgone Before you give Omar sainthood, realize that Duda is not a star, nor is Legares; Murphy is a good singles hitter. Degrom and Harvey have had Tommy John surgery, Niese may need it as well. I'm not saying these are terrible folks, just that Minaya didn't deliver a team of power hitters and stability. 


sandybgone
sandybgone

@eric88 yeah but those players were Josh Thole and Mike Nickeas...he traded a 38 year old who had his best season ever...and 2 nobodies for a potential 1A starter and (I hope) a great hitting catcher...no matter who did what or why...the trade was a no brainer....

borsh13
borsh13

Yes and I feel he did better in the negotiation giving them dickey was a much better move... Sandy has done a terrible job getting the major league team to where it should be but u have to give credit where it is due he has rebuilt the farm system and possibly made this team good for a long time

eric88
eric88

@niesesnose I don't hate him, however, you overate him. I don't see the impact players, do you.

niesesnose
niesesnose

"Well known". Ok, so does that mean Alderson gets no credit for trading a month of a Byrd and Buck for a high leverage young hard throwing reliever and a guy who's likely be a top 100 propsect by the end of this year?

eric88
eric88

@niesesnose He had many more blunders than successes, but thanks for the highlights

sandybgone
sandybgone

@niesesnose true but the expectations were so high with him being a highly touted offensive prospect...I mean the vibe on him was absolutely can't miss. However, so far...prior to his minor league stint..he was beyond awful 


But you are right...he changed something in the minors and it is working...lets hope it continues. I still believe in him

sandybgone
sandybgone

@niesesnose I appreciate that sentiment...I was a big Omar supporter that recognized his shortcomings..but he made some good moves for this team...Sandy did a great job reducing payroll and fleecing some teams in trades..


I want to see Sandy make the non prospect trade now...I want to see Sandy bring in someone that is ready to go now..whether that is at the deadline or in the off-season....whoever is available at those times

sandybgone
sandybgone

@Bob Giacalone @sandybgone so it seems like (and correct me if I am wrong)...that Omar did absolutely nothing but ruin the team and did not give us anything..but Sandy has?

niesesnose
niesesnose

But he wasn't the one that made the trade that turned Byrd into 2 pieces who could help the team in the long term.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Well considering the fact ownership wouldn't let him go out and get that impact player and it takes 4 years to have your players move up the farm, let alone become impact players, is really a quite silly way of looking at it.

mustang66
mustang66

how come nobody is mentioning alisa 39 million and Castillo for. 25 money down the tubes

niesesnose
niesesnose

So the bench coach was the one who called Neal Huntington and made the trade? Wow!

borsh13
borsh13

If his draft pics pan out which so far they are than that is false

borsh13
borsh13

People have to stop blaming ownership for sandys shortcomings... Money or no money he has made some bad signings and that's not the wilpons fault... Sandy has been pretty bad with signin players but he has proven to me he knows how to make trades

eric88
eric88

@niesesnose Why, they passed on Jose Fernandez who already won a Cy Young!

eric88
eric88

@borsh13 Many teams with top ten picks every year, pick the best well known prospects. Many of them the last four years are alreadyin the majors.

sandybgone
sandybgone

@borsh13 very fair assessment...


What he needs to prove now is the ability to make a trade to help the team immediately and not just for prospects..



niesesnose
niesesnose

Again, hindsight. And we drafted Nimmo, who has a lot of promise and is a pretty good prospect. Fernandez is a freak- 1 in a million and he's already getting TJ.

borsh13
borsh13

As did what like 11 other teams?

borsh13
borsh13

Yes but sandy has been drafting high school kids so that's y they aren't ready and that's not true at all... Baseball draft pics fail more then draft pics in any other sport... First overall pics usually arnt the best in the draft class... The mets struggling has given him an advantage in the draft but it doesn't make it a sure thing

niesesnose
niesesnose

LOL so all top 10 picks are locks to be great and be in the majors in 3 years?

borsh13
borsh13

That's true he is yet to be in a situation to do that but now he is... I feel trading to get major leaguers is easier then to get prospects as u have a better idea what ur getting so I'm confident but it still has to be proven

eric88
eric88

@niesesnose How long would you like us to wait as the seasons roll by. Every major contributor on the Mets was already here. Where are the Sandy guys.

borsh13
borsh13

Really? For some reason I thought they had the 12 pick and he was the 13th