MLB: Philadelphia Phillies at New York Mets

Teams had interest in Mets players, but Sandy stayed pat

Teams expressed interest in acquiring a Mets reliever before the non-waiver trade deadline, and at least two teams showed interest in Daniel Murphy, but Sandy Alderson told SNY on Friday that he had no interest in breaking up the big-league roster.

“We didn’t want to break up the team unless it made sense for us, in terms of value and immediate contribution,” he said. “As a result, in those situations, it’s not like we refused to talk, but we have a very high standard that someone would have to meet.”

In the end, Alderson said he he didn’t miss many opportunities to make his team better.

“I didn’t feel there was anybody we absolutely missed, outside of one or two exceptions,” he said. “A couple of guys the Diamondbacks traded you look at and say to yourself, ‘Well, gee, we could have at least had a conversation,’ but we knew what was there.”

Arizona traded Martin Prado to the Yankees, and also traded Gerardo Parra to the Brewers, but the Mets were never connected to the D-Backs in trade rumors during the week prior to Thursday’s non-waiver trade deadline.




47 comments
Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

Not to sound like a hater but why didn't you pick up the phone SA and talk to every single GM to gauge who they might be willing to deal instead of sounding like an idiot who didn't do due diligence ,,,, Well, gee, we could have at least had a conversation.  This makes me wonder what other potential trades he missed out on

hashburry
hashburry

Mets couldn't take on Prado's contract.

Eugene DuBow
Eugene DuBow

I don't understand the desire to trade Murphy. He's one of the two or three players on the team that can consistently hit. Yes, he's not a 40 home run guy but there must be some way to get a long ball hitter without giving up the most proficient singles/doubles guy the Mets have.

I also don't understand why Chris Young is an everyday player. He can't hit. Period!

J A Hardfoot
J A Hardfoot

I'd have traded Murphy for another chip towards bringing in the power bat.  The Mets need to keep Thor.  The pitching staff will ultimately be  what gets this team to the promise land.

Steven Kolodny
Steven Kolodny

I'm not totally upset they didn't make a move, but we all know we aren't making the playoffs, so why not trade Colon or an older relief pitcher. I mean getting a few prospects for players we don't view as a Met next year should have been considered. With that said i'm tired of hearing from Sandy that we talked to teams about Tulo and Cargo or other stud players. Thats like us going into a Porche dealership and saying to your friends yeah I went looking for a new car and looked at porche's! We all can look, but can we afford? Met's ownership sucks, plain and simple. We are in New York, they get $25 million for Citifields name, they make how much in SNY (Please don't tell us it's separate from owning the Met's, thats like saying the money in your right pocket belongs to you but the money in your left doesn't) the wilpons get paid for SNY. If they sold the place out they would make a lot more money. What about the money MLB gives every team? That money is never talked about. Do you remember Mike Piazza? Doubleday wanted him, Wilpons didn't because they would have had to pay him big time. Sucks to be a Met's fan in New York when the other team spends money and is in the playoff chase every year!

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

id like to see a poll here with just how many people actually are in favor of trading murphy, or signing him to a lets say 5 year, 48 million dollar deal. I remember murph saying like last month that the money isn't as important as the YEARS now at this point in his career...which leads me to believe he'd take a little bit of a "hometown discount" if we give him 5 years...48 mil might even be MORE than what he'd take....


but there's so many people saying don't trade him, trade him, flip flopping...just curious to see what the smarter fans that come to this blog would have to say aobut that, now at this point of the season... 

frankc53
frankc53

The Mets have some interesting chips; an emerging Daniel Murphy, Lucas Duda, Juan Lagares, Zack Wheeler and Jake deGrom.  We are seeing a style of baseball the Sandy originally talked about when he was hired. I'm not ready to morph into the Yankees and start demanding trades for the sake of bringing in "names". That is how this franchise got into trouble.  

Scrubs
Scrubs

 Maybe this is why the Mets came out flat as a board last night.

Jimmy Passadino
Jimmy Passadino

Sandy comes off as the type of guy who wants to sell his 1996 used car for 100$ under original msrp.

A trade for the sake of a trade isn't the answer I agree.

But you can tell why Bud fit Sandy into this job. He got the penny pinching GM for the cheapest owners.

I can't wait for the winter meetings excuse next year...

Eric Slater
Eric Slater

It makes no sense to trade just for the sake of making a trade.  Deals can still be made in August.  In the Mets case, seems to make the most sense to wait until the offseason.

upstaphan
upstaphan

I'm not buying this "there was no way to improve the major league team" crap. This is the same B.S. line we heard about why we didn't get a real short stop this winter. Where there is a will there is a way. Get creative and/or deal some of your minor league talent. Don't just sit on your hands and tell us there was nothing that could have been done...again. 

legs3
legs3

The problem with this organization is their players are only valuable to them because they aren't very good to any one else with the exception of a few pitchers.  They over value what they have and thats why they are what they are. a sub par 500 team with no offensive consistency.  David Wright is a star on this team because of his past but just a good player on a good team.  We hope hes not one of those players that runs out of talent in his early 30's like some do or it will be another horrendous contract to live with.  Having great pitching and forcing them to throw shutouts everynight is not going to work.  Scoring 10 runs in one game and 2 the rest of the week won't work.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

Allen Craig could have helped this team a lot!! But as usual Sandy sat on his hands!

John O
John O

Martin Prado is a good bat, but not the bat the Mets need(ed). They need a power bat and nothing short of that imo. When the Prado deal was announced, I didn't think anything of it.

I do think we missed out on Cespedes though.

shawnp6986
shawnp6986

Welll,gee Alderson,at least those teams TRIED to do something to make their teams better.This friggin guy with his condescending attitude sometimes,no offense but I just don't like it.

Yes,may be we were better standing pat,only time will tell,but again last night we go out and get 2 hits on 1 run,the one run coming from the guy who has to carry this team on his back.Ya think we could've used a bat or three,Aldy?

We need to at the very least split this series,but with the way the bats looked last night I don't even think a deGrom gem is going to get it done.(and yes,Giants pitcher was very good but this is the major leagues,not little league)we should be able to score more than 1 run and 2 hits-pathetic.No worry though,Sgt.Alders on is extremely content so I guess we should be also..Please

mi
mi

@sjm25 alderson is gone after this year, get a clue

Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

@hashburry Why would they? Prado is the older inferior version of Murphy. The Yankees just added a crap 3B with some upside, a slumping SS with upside to play 2B even though he never played it before, a super sub in his declining years, and a mediocre starter. And they committed more millions for that. No thank you. They can waive Colon and trade him any time if there's interest and get out from under his 2015 salary. They can keep Murphy or trade him in the off season. It's time to bring up Syndergaard and find a place for him to start a few games and see whether he's going to be a factor for 2015. Prado they don't need.

javy180
javy180

@Eugene DuBow The problem with Murphy is his defense. His footwork is terrible and how much are you willing to give him 4 Yrs at 12M a year? 

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@J A Hardfoot This team has plenty of chips already.  Trading Colon and/or Murphy for more prospects would be STUPID.

hashburry
hashburry

@Steven Kolodny Just curious, what older relief pitcher?  And it doesn't appear anyone really wanted to take on Colon's contract at his age and weight.

Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

@Mr. SERCH Murphy isn't getting 5 years. I see him taking $40M over 4 years. He loses a little potential money and gains 3 years of security. He'd probably take $35m over 3 years too.

hashburry
hashburry

@Mr. SERCH 5 year 48M is less per year than he will likely get in arbitration this year.  At least 12M a year to sign him.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Mr. SERCH But is it really that simple? Don't you have to take into account the payroll?

For example, if we were running on a 100M+ payroll I'm all for it. But if we are going to run on a 75-80M payroll is he worth tying up 10m+ a year with all of the other holes we have?

Granted he is a very good hitter. But he's a flawed defensive player (and up the middle defense) who continues to make horrible baserunning mistakes. 

Brian Aragon
Brian Aragon

@Mr. SERCH He's not going to sign for that, he'd probably want 5/60 which I think is still a good deal.

7up17left
7up17left

@frankc53 If you want to bring the Yankees into the conversation, you have to be fair.  The Yankees have been to the postseason 16 out of the last 18 years.  The Mets??? 3 out of the last 25 and only 7 times in total during the last 53 years.  Those "names" sometimes help out....

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

@Eric Slater same all story with this team...wait!  And what happens when they do nothing on the off season too, what then, WAIT til next year??? Tired of waiting!!!

darkknight
darkknight

Allen Craig's contract is similar in length and value to Murphy's future contract. He is way worse hitter than murph and he would play left field not second!!! We need a power bat in left, not freaking allen craig haha what a joke

tierlifer
tierlifer

@rubiconx0 And you know he was dangled to the Mets and for whom? You have inside info we all don't have privy too?

rico
rico

@John O  Beane' wanted Lester he didn't want young pitching or prospects he wanted "playoff tested" front line pitching. Do the mets have any of those? Maybe Colon but Beane bailed on Colon last year by choosing not to resign him after his 18-6 season.   So no we didn't miss out on Cespedes, he wasn't on the table to anyone but the Sox.


randyjaxn
randyjaxn

@John O  we didn't match up with Oakland on cespedes. cant fault sandy

shawnp6986
shawnp6986

I agree,not saying Prado is the answer whatsoever.And yes,dude I would've loved to see Cespedes in a Mets uniform for sure.

rico
rico

@shawnp6986 what 3 bats were out there, and upgrade and available?  Name em!

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

@Tarheel11 @Mr. SERCH  well of course none of it is EVER that simple...thers sooooo much more that goes into GM'ing that we never even hear about...but im talking just about the basic, rudimentary negotiations, that's all...

ur point is valid though, but I guess that's all me HOPING/PRAYING we decide that HEY, WE'RE A NY MARKET TEAM, WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF REALLY COMPETING, LETS RAISE PAYROLL A BIT TO SIGN OUR OWN GUYS AND GO FOR IT...

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

@Brian Aragon  ah im not so sure...I think he really has "hometown discount" written all over him...I think he def wants 5 years though, which i'd do...and yes, i'd probably do 5 for 60 as well, but id at least start with 45-50, see what he does...


and i'd only trade him in a BIGGER package for a legit bat...but im not sure that kind of bat is even out there, so it probably means we're gonna try to resign him

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

@rico @John O  yeah exactly...Its clearly obvious Oakland sees this as their chance to win the WHOLE thing, and gave up good bats for the sick, dominant, frontline starting rotation that you need to win in the playoffs. Barring a collapse of epic proportions, its obvious they're going to the playoffs. So making those trades to make your rotation as storng as possible is a great move for them. THey should be the favorites to win the whole thing even MORE now. They're going for it, big time...

I overheard 2 dudes on the train yesterday talking about how the mets should've gotten cespedes by trading them colon and some prospects, ya know, "cuz colon was sick for oalkand, they would've taken him back" lol....yeah, uh John Lester, or Bartolo Colon...take ur pick, AND give me Cespedes....smh

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

@rico @shawnp6986  agreed....the only thing we should be doing NOW, after the deadline, is giving Wilmer Flores a string of 2 weeks or so of starts...maybe he can be THE BAT we need to really finally bolster this offense...Tejada has been up and down, horrible at points, not too shabby at others..but he's in another one of his horrible swings (despite his 3 hit game the other day), and we KONW what he's got...at least just give Wilmer the chance to get in a groove and get hot...all he's done in his minor career is HIT...lets see if he can NOW...if so, now your lineup is virtually COMPLETE and we can really make a push for the final WC spot, what with our pitching and bullpen doing well...


If we can fill form within with the BAT that we need, awesome....that'll at least hold us over til the off season when more trades should be available...

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Steven Kolodny @Steve Finelli Lack of Stadium revenue is not why they r not spending.  They r broke and between the team and SNY they owe over $1 billion.  U have to spend to make in NY.....see NY Yankees.  They don't have the wherewithal to own a big market team......plain and simple.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@sjm25 @Tarheel11 Ok. For one, I NEVER said to trade a guy because he is a bad defensive player or baserunner. Never.

For two, Colon's 11M and CY's 7.25 is gone. That's the problem! This is not about Murphy the player, this is about payroll allocation.

Getting tired of typing this but here goes.

Granderson's contract increases by 3M next year.

Niese increase of 2M.

Arb increases for Gee, Meija, Murphy, Duda, EY, Tejada, etc. approx. 15M. 

The Colon and CY money is already needed elsewhere. That's the entire point.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Mr. SERCH @Tarheel11 I hear ya and I completely agree. I like Murphy. But I just see Sandy sitting down with a calculator and an empty checkbook and thinking he can use that 10M better. Not saying I agree with it at all. 

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

@Tarheel11 @Mr. SERCH  yeah good point...I think THIS is the REAL off season that we see if Sandy is committed to MONEY BALL and jettisons guys who are due big raises for younger pieces, OR if he resigns murphy, trades colon for a prospect, and then goes ahead and puts together a package for a tulo and/or cargo, or castro or andrus...someone who is already under a big contract, that would entail us taking that on and giving up some prospects for him...if he does those things, then we'll see what he's really all about, how he has the moneyball mentality, but the ability to spend cuz he's finally in a big market, which is something he led us to believe and always discussed years back...


if not, I think we might see a mets fan revolt...

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@sjm25 You are right the CY signing was horrible! Everybody in baseball would say that. So we should use that as the measuring stick for whatever we give anyone else?

This is all about roster structuring. Sandy has to determine how to best use the limited funds he does have.

Is he better off going with a Murphy at 10M and Tejada at 3M or does he go with a Flores type at second (making 500K) and a "premier" shortstop. I don't know the answer.

The point is this is not about Murphy not being good. This is all about allocating the money he does have the best way to build a team.