Kendrys Morales 2 (AP)

Team-friendly deal for Kendry Morales

In a post to Twitter, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney said, “A good team-friendly deal could develop for the Mets with 1B Kendrys Morales in February or March.”

Morales declined a one-year, $14.1 million qualifying offer from the Mariners, meaning he will cost his new team a top draft pick. As such, an MLB GMs recently predicted that Morales might have to wait to sign a deal until after the MLB draft in June (Gammons, Dec. 11).

The Orioles, Yankees, Rays, Brewers, Pirates and Rangers have all been connected in rumor to Morales, but there are no reports of any offer being made.

In October, Tim Dierkes predicted Morales would eventually ink a two-year, $28 million deal (MLBTR, Oct. 27).

Morales, 30, hit .277 with a .336 OBP and .785 OPS, 23 HR and 80 RBI in 156 games with the Mariners this past season.

Morales played 31 games at first base this season, but mostly served as Seattle’s designated hitter.

Michael Baron, Contributor

Morales hits for power and struck out over 100 times, but he had a career-high 49 walks in 2013, which could only improve working in the Mets system. He did DH’d a lot, but was serviceable in his time at first. He certainly won’t win a Gold Glove, but he won’t kill anyone defensively either – what he provides offensively could certainly make any shortcomings on defense tolerable.

Maggie Wiggin, Contributor

Overall, his production is only slightly above average for a first baseman. Morales will generally hit 20 home runs and more than 30 doubles in a full season, and he gets on base at a good — but not great — clip. The good news is that he’s put up capable numbers since returning from a broken ankle that cost him almost two years. He hasn’t returned to the impressive performance he put up before the injury, but he also hasn’t struggled. His switch-hitting ability is another selling point, though he’s weaker against lefties.

164 comments
Rob O'Rourke
Rob O'Rourke

3 yrs 13.5 a yr.. lock it up ... guys he is a legit professional hitter.. he would bat 275 with 20 hrs for next 3 yrs at 1B for the mets.. i like the sound of 2-3-4-5-6 murphy wright grandy morales Tda for next 3 yrs... if Tda becomes a true hitter that is .. could be a very productive 2-6 for the team 

Scott MacKenzie
Scott MacKenzie

would the Mets be allowed to sign him and give up their 3rd round pick and then turn around and trade him to someone who didn't want to give up a 1st round pick?   Something like, hey we'll sign him at your price for and give up our 3rd round pick for your 10th best prospect ?

Justin Corr
Justin Corr

I think the reason why people have so much hope for Ike is because his rookie season he played well and his next season he got off to a really hot start with a .300 avg 7 hr and 25 rbi's in a month and a half till he got hurt for the year and then never seemed to get it back till that second half of the next season where he ended up with 32 hr and 92 rbi's then had a bad year last year. He shows flashes that he can be a great player but then shows consistency with being horrible. So for someone that could potentially be a 30 hr 100rbi guy for only 3.5 mil would be good if he were to put it together. Plus he's good defensively so he wouldn't hurt you there.

Bryan Coulter
Bryan Coulter

It's because when they took the team photo, they could only fit Colon in it

Bryan Coulter
Bryan Coulter

2 years 28? Not awful. He has power. Would really solidify the lineup. Possible wild card team

Number6
Number6

Holy crap if you think about it we can contend if we...


-Trade Ike and Duda to MIL for Thornburg.

-Trade Montero and another low level pitcher if necessary to the D Backs for Owings

-Then lastly sign Morales.


We would be freeing up money by trading Ike and that would allow us to sign Morales if there was any doubt that we can't now bc of the payroll.


You're now entering 2014 with a lineup of...


6- Owings?? Not sure he can lead off but what the heck.

4-Murphy

5-Wright

3- Morales

7-Granderson

9- Young

2- d'Arnaud

8-Lagares


I don't know about you guys but i would take this lineup in a heartbeat.



maxster
maxster

Sign Morales, dump Duda, Davis. With Morales you know what your getting. With Duda, Davis, who the hell knows anymore.

John Cross
John Cross

Wouldn't mind Morales, although 2 years 28 mil would be a lot of money for him.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

I honestly don't think there will be much of a difference who plays first because Terry will over manage, over play splits and  never let one guy get a rhythm. It is the most frustrating part about his shotty managing.  

cadillakos
cadillakos

Moving Duda and Davis to pick up some young talent and signing Morales, who is a proven MLB hitter and ballplayer, without question improves our team. 

Keith Matos
Keith Matos

I really don't get why the Mets are in such a rush to trade Ike. I mean if something really good comes along of course but I wouldn't trade him just to trade him. Yes he had a horrible season last year but at his age i would give him one more full year to produce. I just have a feeling that he will have a nice bounce back year and once he has that confidence he will be fine after that. I mean they are giving Tejada chances and he has much less talent than Ike. I just wouldn't give him away.

KMO82
KMO82

Looks like Brewers and Mets are still talking. Mets still asking for Thornburg, you guys think MIL gives in?

Alan J Tepper
Alan J Tepper

His production is only slightly above average for a first baseman.  Unfortunately, our current potential first basemen have production that is well below average for a shortstop.


ferizzi726
ferizzi726

Morales is much better than Duda. Will hit for a higher average and give you more RBI's. You can look at Duda's power rate and walks, but let's not forget his main problem, and that's producing runs. 


Duda hit .145 with RISP last year with a .541 OPS. Compare that to Morales hitting .312 with an .866 OPS with RIPS and you see why Morales would be much better as a middle of the order guy than Duda. Shows just why Duda only had 33 RBI compared to Morales' 80.

seldomused
seldomused

Baron's player analysis makes my head spin.   

slainte2
slainte2

Agreed, Morales would be definite step up from either Duda or Davis. To get him, it would be bump in payroll of 10M (say 14M to Morales vs. 4M for platoon at 1st),

Given candidates, and available money, the answer at 1B is a platoon.


Duda and Davis have almost identical career numbers against RHP, and they are pretty good ... wRC 127 (Morales is 124), OPS 813 and 827 (Morales is 839).  Both Duda and (especially) Ike are horrible against LHP ... terrible results and look foolish (wRC 82 and 67, OPS 641, 602).  Note the switch hitter Morales is 97 and 736 against LHP).


My Point:  Duda and Davis aren't bad hitters  ... they are each in fact GOOD hitters and ASSETs to the offense, but ONLY against RHP.  They each have proven the ability to hit RHP over a pretty chunky sample size. Just sit whichever you keep against LHP, get a platoon partner (Satin earned a shot) and use that 10M somewhere else. 




BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Can he even play 120 games at first a season?  I have my doubt....he's a shell of what he was pre-injury.

chemteck29
chemteck29

Why in the world would the Mets spend big bucks on this guy when Duda is quite capable of hitting the same 20 HR's (possibly more) and makes peanuts! It doesn't make sense! If you are going to spend that kind of money on one player, do it at the SS position!

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

This guy was going to be a excellent player until his celebration on home plate change his fate still a good ball player but he was suppose to be a guy the Angels were building around. 

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

He is better than Ike and Duda...so take that however you want.

Agee's Catch
Agee's Catch

Not sure how to view Morales. You'd have to find takers for Davis and Duda, just to dump the salary. If we cannot find a deal for the Dullard Ds, then Sandy will have made a mistake by tendering them a contract.  He had a month to be aggressive and find them new homes.  I predicted that December 2nd could set the tone for our off season.  Right now, it seems we have burdened ourselves with two unnecessary contracts.

nagel100
nagel100

Mets are out of any real money.   they shot their wad and i give them credit for doing it.  we all know Wilpon is in deep finical trouble unless he simply sells the team and he doesn't want to do that.


spending 87 million in contracts surprised me and I'm happy with the return.  Granderson is the guy i think the Mets really wanted and he will be a someone we can root for.  i'm sure Wright is happy that he has someone behind him who can actually hit.


i also think EY will wind up being our LF and lead off guy.  he could steal 60 bases easily.  

slainte2
slainte2

@Keith Matosyou have to acknowledge that he was really really bad last year, right?  


if you think he will be better next year, ok ... but specifically what is it that makes you think that?  why do you think he would be better?  b/c stats-wise he was a disaster last year, and by the eye test, IMO, he looked lost.  I thought he was trying to make up for being slow by starting his swing early, and he looked off-balance and completely fooled a lot of time.  The only basis i would half buy would be that reaction time didn't recover last summer from the valley fever, and maybe that will be better in 2014? IDK, that was two years ago now. 


If they keep him, he absolutely needs to be platooned.  His career numbers against LHP (even pre-injury, pre-valley fever) are just really bad.

flushed
flushed

I can't remember a player who's had more chances. The word potential has been absolutely abused next to his name. 32 home run season? What were his other numbers that year? You think a guy like Val Pascucci couldn't hit 32 home runs if that were the only number that mattered? It's past time to move on, and if he somehow manages to put it together somewhere else I will gladly take the I-told-you-so's because there is no way it's going to happen here.

Albert Dispinseri
Albert Dispinseri

@Keith Matos 

well said bro, i agree.........just one more year, i think he will turn out to be the hitter we expected..

KMO82
KMO82

If they were going to just give him away he'd be gone by now. We are either getting something useful in return or Ike stays IMO.

airfeet
airfeet

@KMO82 I can't see why the Brewers in their current state would give up Thornburg for Davis...it doesn't make sense to me because that team needs pitching

dexx
dexx

@Alan J Tepper Its funny how you quoted verbatim your 1st sentance from an article on another baseball site, yet left out the part about Duda being 15% above avg. offensively.

Jason Luft
Jason Luft

@ferizzi726Quiz time!


Name the players who posted the following numbers with RISP:

.274/.398/.453 (.851 OPS)

.238..355/.393 (.748 OPS)
.275/.315/.481 (.796 OPS)


   

ferizzi726
ferizzi726

@chemteck29 Because Duda's HR's are when no one is on base. Home runs don't matter if you can't produce RBI. Duda hit .145 with RISP and had 33 RBI.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@nagel100 Hope they have a better alternative than EY for LF and for lead off.  He's a spare part.  Decent guy to have coming off the bench or start once or twice a week.

Keith Matos
Keith Matos

@slainte2@Keith Matos I agree with most of what you said...if you read my earlier post i did say i know he was terrible last year but giving up on a 27 YO that has hit over 30 HR  Citi and can drive in runs i just wouldn't be so quick to get him out. Partly because we have nobody at that position that is better....Duda is almost the same player with worse defense. Again if they can trade to get a legit 1B of course that would be great but is Morales really that much of an upgrade? My main point is don't get rid of him just to get rid of him. If you can make a big upgrade there do it. He looked really bad last year and I get everything you are saying but i just have a gut feeling that it would be a mistake to trade him for nothing. 

Keith Matos
Keith Matos

People forget that players like Pete Rose and Keith Hernandez took 3-5 years in MLB to become good players. Now I am in no way comparing them to ike but fans get very impatient and want moves made just to make them. Can he crap the bed again? Sure he can but I wouldn't say he had a ton of chances. He was sick one season and was injured in another..... Let's see him healthy for a full season before we let him go for a bucket of baseball's.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@KMO82

Not necessarily.  There is no advantage to cutting him right now.  They could go to spring training then cut him in March like they did with Castillo.

Keith Matos
Keith Matos

@ferizzi726@Keith MatosI get it, i really do but he has the potential to hit 30 HR. He has done it already Citi. I'm sorry but I would take him over Duda. I think he has more of a chance to be good than Duda does. I get all the doubt about him though... I just have a feeling he will be one of those guys that we regret trading.

Alan J Tepper
Alan J Tepper

@dexx @Alan J Tepper : I took that quote from Maggie's quote above, not from any article on another baseball site.  I was making a harmless joke based on her quote.

Jason Luft
Jason Luft

@ferizzi726

The answers:

.274/.398/.453 (.851 OPS) - Lucas Duda (2012)

.238..355/.393 (.748 OPS) - Lucas Duda (2011)
.275/.315/.481 (.796 OPS) - Kendry Morales (2012)

If Duda's main problem is producing runs, how did he post an .851 OPS w/RISP in 2012?  Methinks we are dealing with small sample sizes and not some incurable flaw in Lucas Duda.

Keith Matos
Keith Matos

You are looking @ age and not experience. Listen as I said I get why people are frustrated with him but honestly where are the Mets going next season? We are not going to win a world series and doubt we will be competing for a playoff spot. I would get rid of duda before ike.... Give him one more season and if no turn around release or trade him next year. Let's be honest though with our chances for next season. If we get morales or any other available 1B we are not going to be much different. Let's give him a shot and maybe we get lucky

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Keith Matos Starting with his age 24 season Rose went on a streak of 9 consecutive .300+ seasons.  Ike will be entering his age 27 season in April.  He's had plenty of chances in NY.  If he goes somewhere else and turns it around then that's great for him.  The Mets need to be worried about the Mets and Ike has proven to be a player they cannot count on.

John Grillo
John Grillo

@Keith Matos @Kevin Bishopp I take Ike over Duda everyday of the week. ...I give Ike another chance. .. but Duda is cheaper & Mets brain trust calls trading him a no-brainer - sounds like a bad case of group think

Kevin Bishopp
Kevin Bishopp

@Keith Matos @ferizzi726 Not only has he hit 30 homeruns before, but he is a year younger than Duda, and has a better glove at first base. Their career numbers are similar, but the fact that Ike has produced before and has a higher ceiling (in my opinion) than Duda, I too think we should keep him.

ferizzi726
ferizzi726

@Jason Luft @ferizzi726 Try comparing the 2013 stats. Way to pick and choose what stats you're using. Also, OBP is irrelevant with RISP. Morales has the higher Batting average and slugging percentage. So he's still much better than Duda.

Christian Card
Christian Card

You look deep enough you can find a stat that favors Duda or Davis. Fact is Morales is a far superior player. 5th in MVP voting in 2009, freak injury, nice comeback last year and a half. This is a player! Sign and enjoy!!!