Chris Young takes a hack

Talent evaluator says Chris Young’s best days are behind him

Mets OF Chris Young has logged 152 plate appearances this season, but is batting just .195 with four home runs and 14 RBI.

He was hitless in four at bats Tuesday and did not play Wednesday.

“We were looking for a guy who could play center field, who could back us up if Juan Lagares didn’t improve offensively, and also had the ability to play all three outfield positions,” Sandy Alderson told ESPN 98.7 FM when asked about his decision to sign Young this past off-season.

Alderson said hoped Young could hit at least .240 with 15 home runs. He is on pace to hit roughly 10 home runs, while driving in 40 runs and batting around .200.

Young hit 32 home runs in 2007 and made the All-Star team in 2010. However, he struggled in a part-time role with the D-Backs and A’s the last two seasons.

“When you start your career like that, you set really high expectations,” a rival evaluator told columnist Andy Martino (Daily News, June 5). “I think he can be solid, but nothing like (he used to be). This game is hard. Sometimes they make adjustments to you, and you can’t make that next adjustment. That happened with him.”




131 comments
Mark Gunn
Mark Gunn

Even a blind observer would say that.

rf04
rf04

Enough CY. Enough d'Arnaud. I can't stand these automatic outs in our lineup!!!

Christopher Masiello
Christopher Masiello

This unnamed talent evaluator must be a freakin' genius. He can actually spot that CY is on the decline of his career. Holy crap - thanks for spelling it out to us guys who never played in the bigs. I thought he was about to start tearing it up.

Justin Cosgrove
Justin Cosgrove

I don't hold any of this on CY, he doesn't slack off... but this is a big error by the Alderson braintrust. It borders on an unearned arrogance 

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

When?  WHEN did this talent evaluator say that CY was on the decline?  10 mins after Sandy signed him, or yesterday?  Cuz it sounds like a lil armchair QB'ing to me. 

Bill Vanwormer
Bill Vanwormer

he's also a different guy the last 2 or 3 years since he hurt his shoulder

blaze
blaze

I'm no talent evaluator but I could of told you that before the mets foolishly signed him

Jeremy Roberts
Jeremy Roberts

It's too bad this is a rival evaluator.  With great insights like this, he (or she) is going to have a great draft pick that'll be the next Met killer for years.

Darrell Smith
Darrell Smith

I live in SF. Young played for the A's last season and was a big bust. What made Sandy think that he would be better with the Mets is beyond me. His play this season does not surprise me at all. 

Wayne Pavia
Wayne Pavia

@theJman

I agree but I'm not ready to rush to judgment. He gets one more year with me.

Steve Gruber
Steve Gruber

I've lived in AZ for eight years now and have seen him play in the Arizona Fall League and for the DBacks and A's. He's not that good. He had a breakout year when he was an All Star but he's average at absolute best. I hope he gets hot or improves so we can dump him in the next few weeks.

Wayne Pavia
Wayne Pavia

Also @ Victor Triguero. You say Minaya brought in the right players that won. Refresh my memory what year did we win the Pennant or the Series?

Wayne Pavia
Wayne Pavia

@ Victor Triguero

So your saying he just chilled out for a while, and waited for a step down dream job with the Padres? Lol

If he is that good teams would put their GM s on the hot seat.

Remember the worst trade in history? Half season rental of Colon for Cliff Lee, Sizemore, and Brandon Phillips? All three went on to be All stars.

He had unlimited funds also.

Alderson never promised a championship by 2014. He has pretty much stuck to his plan. When Syndergard and Wheeler are winning 20 games a year you'll be sucking Sandy dogs.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Dekker's defense underlines that even w/o mentioning Kirk Nieuwenhuis that the Mets already had someone to play there. Both of these people, it is true, provide questionable offense, but so did Chris Young -- he has been mediocre in that department lately. You knew this when you signed the guy. His power numbers were lacking for years. N. was liable to give you a few home runs too.  He was not worth the price & even someone like me who defended the team against various naysayers found this a stupid signing. It is worse because Granderson is doing badly and they didn't get another bat, which simply put, they really had to get.  Cut the b.s., Sandy. 

Vahid Bacchus
Vahid Bacchus

Can these evaluator kindly give their insights on TDA's talent or if there is any?

Vahid Bacchus
Vahid Bacchus

Total BS is there a special machine that scan players to evaluate their talent? More useless post from metslog

JoMama
JoMama

CY leading off tonight. Wanna bet on the golden sombrero?

msanta031
msanta031

You root for CY because he's on the Mets, but having this signing blow up in Alderson's face is somewhat enjoyable.  We all knew this was a horrible signing from the beginning no matter how Sandy tries to spin it.

monstah
monstah

Wow - really? This same guy also determined Babe Ruth is still dead.

gregf
gregf

He's starting in center field tonight ... ugh! Collins will say he's 'rested' because the rest of the millionaires are tired from playing the series in Philly ... although I guess den Dekker is not a good match for Cubs' lefty starter ...


Maybe Young will swing hard and dump a ball into the basket in left ... or drop an easy fly to setup a Cubs sweep ...

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

You know, up until this point i have completely been glossing over Alderson's statement about CY.  Regardless of what it is that he "hoped", did the GM of a major market company actually say he committed a large chunk of the company's FA budget on a HOPE?  A hope of mediocre proportions at that??  Not, "we took a calculated risk"  not "based on our analysis of CY's advanced metrics, we're confident...."   He hopes....ay dios mio



Wayne Pavia
Wayne Pavia

Any of you wonder why teams aren't lined up to make Minaya their GM?

dave42
dave42

where was this talent evaluator in December when we needed him???? 

Russ Havens
Russ Havens

"“We were looking for a guy who could play center field, who could back us up if Juan Lagares didn’t improve offensively, and also had the ability to play all three outfield positions,” Sandy Alderson told ESPN 98.7 FM when asked about his decision to sign Young this past off-season."

This is total BS.  Young was promised a full season of ABs and to play everyday at the time he was signed.

nolrog
nolrog

>>> Alderson said hoped Young could hit at least .240 with 15 home runs. He is on pace to hit roughly 10 home runs, while driving in 40 runs and batting around .200.


No, that's wrong.  I read it here just the other day.  He's on pace to do just that. 

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@Darrell Smith He thought CY just needed consistent ABs...I don't mind him trying to catch lightening in a bottle, but why did it cost $7.5mil AND a 500 AB handshake?

eavdr10
eavdr10

@Darrell Smith  he tried to snag a bargain from a team that has set the benchmark for snagging bargains.

TheJMan
TheJMan

@Wayne Pavia


I for one ... did not think Omar was a good "manager' of team operations ... 

if we're being really honest.. I used to cringe when he would get in the booth with the big 3 ... dude is pretty dumb and it showed
now.. Sandy is VERY smart -- but he's not doing all that hot either - he's done a pretty miserable job constructing a team to match his philosophy and they'll need to hit in order for Syndergaard and Wheeler to win those 20 games a year

Robert Hess
Robert Hess

@Joe Paulson I really believe that if Sandy and the Wilpon's had come clean from the start and admitted they had little money and this was going to be a lean year fans would have appreciated the honesty if nothing else.  Sandy is constantly blowing smoke.  Chris Young is Jayson Bay all over again.  If I owned the team I'd hire  Bobby O., Wally, Keith and Ron.  They are the only ones who are honest and know what they are doing. Absolutely ridiculous!

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@msanta031 I find it hard even to root for him too much since him playing takes away playing time from people I rather see play. But, yeah.

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

@Russ Havens  I hate how Sandy never owns up to his mistakes....to be fair I guess he can't say it was a mistake while young is still on the team but still I hate it

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@nolrog  Well I guess it's pretty easy to fall off that pace when he probably hasn't gotten a hit since then

anymos
anymos

@TheJMan Comparing how they constructed a team at the major league level is useless.  We saw how Omar went about the job with a blank checkbook.  Sandy has seen payroll shrink over 50% since he took the job.  Now he's telling fans the team needs to win and attendence needs to pick up again in order for him to have money to spend on players. 

As for the minor leagues- Omar was in the job for 6 years.  That's six years worth of drafts, trades, and signings to produce the 'legacy' that's taking the field now.  Sandy is in his fourth year, about to have his 4th draft.  Seems a bit tough to make a comparison at this point.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Robert Hess @Joe Paulson The fact they had limited funds makes wasting 7M for this guy just that much more annoying. Even that little bit of money could have be used more wisely. 

TheJMan
TheJMan

As far as position players --not sure I'd be so proud of what fruit has been beared -- some, but right now role players

and this is Internet talk radio - 95% of this wild speculation or comparison of some sort -- the only thing it's good for

zoddie
zoddie

@Victor Triguero @William Bonilla @Wayne Pavia  It is very easy to have decent teams when you can sign the best hitter and best pitcher on the free agent market.  Minaya did a lot of that and Sandy can't.


The first year Omar was here he signed Pedro and Beltran.  Top pitcher and top hitter each for the most money.


The second year he signed Billy Wagner, the top closer.  He then traded for Delgado, who was previously the top FA 1b, and assumed his contract.


Those kinds of moves will make any GM look smart.  He didn't look especially smart when he traded away Heath Bell for nothing or when he traded Matt Lindstrom for nothing.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@zoddie @Victor Triguero @William Bonilla @Wayne Pavia Yeah, but Sandy knew the job he had at hand when he took the job.  That will always be my issue with Sandy.  The 2011 Mets and going forward were going to require a very specific makeover that blended trimming payroll with bringing in new/young talent AND keeping the Mets competitive.  This is not a market that does rebuilds from a complete stop.  He came in, concentrated on one thing (payroll) and damn the rest til later.  say what you want, but after the milquetoast that was Art Howe and his era, Omar changed the climate in Queens by doing one thing: winning.  And since we don't really get to see the minor league affiliates play, I'm always gonna care more about that.