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Syndergard may stay in Triple-A

Top pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard may not be among the handful of players called up when rosters expand on Sept. 1 (Puma, Aug. 24).

Syndergaard, who wowed the Mets with his ability in spring training, is about 30 innings away from his innings limit for the 2014 season. He has an 8-7 record with a 4.85 ERA in 124 1/3 innings at Triple-A Las Vegas. The organization is waiting for a better on field performance before calling up the prized 21-year old.

“You’ve got to be a little more consistent,” manager Terry Collins told reporters on Saturday before a loss to the Dodgers. “He’s had some good games, but he’s had some rough games.”

Syndergaard figures to get two more starts in Triple-A before the regular season ends. How far Las Vegas goes in the Triple-A playoffs will also play a factor in whether he is called up.




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Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

Honestly, the PCL Playoffs are probably more interesting and a better experience for him than anything going on with the major league club in September anyway....

Erik Scheibe
Erik Scheibe

Before anyone bitches about payroll, I expect our payroll to go down about $12-15M heading into next off-season if Niese and Colon are not on roster.  Thus these two trades would only increase our overall payroll by $10-12M over last year, plus probably needing a decent, established reliever and possibly a #4 & 5 starter, Daisuke, Syndegaard, UFA could contend and could probably get at reasonable prices.  This could all be done for a $120M payroll, contend next year and have our line-up solid and set for 3 + years.

Erik Scheibe
Erik Scheibe

Mets should look to trade Niese, Mejia, Flores, Plawicki, Den Dekker, and anything and everything else below #5/6 on the prospect list to upgrade themselves at short to the best of their ability.  My preference would be the top SS prospect from Indians (Lindor) who have other options at SS and need pitching (maybe even bring Swisher back to solidify the line-up over the next two years while Nimmo breaks in.  Other than Stanton, anything they invest in their open outfield spot would prevent Nimmo from breaking in by end of next season. 


Pie in the sky, Would anyone give up Niese, Mejia, Molina, Nimmo, Plawicki, Den Dekker, Cecchini for Stanton (after agreeing to a 12 year, $320M contract) and then Gee, Montero, Mazzoni, Dom Smith, Rosario for Lindor?  Overpaying on both?, maybe, but two essential can't miss studs that would be ready and splidify our line-up.  Lindor is rated higher than both Baez and Russell and is an elite defender.  Gee and Montero could solidify Cleveland's line-up instantly at low $, and then with a decent-good season could move Gee at deadline for another decent prospect.

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

I wonder if this is a sign of a possible trade? Like they don't want to risk him being bombed in the majors, even for a start or two?

whizz17
whizz17

Please keep Terry away from all of the younger players. He screws them up whenever they come up to the big leagues. Wally has to try and fix them again when they get sent back down. Syndergaard looks very similar to Wheeler and Harvey before they were called up.

John Schod
John Schod

We have waited and suffered so long with this organization and its excuses. Keep all of the young, promising pitchers that we've sacrificed the past several seasons for as well as spend some money to supplement our needs with free agents. Also, definitely re-sign Daniel Murphy.


This payroll is shameful for a major market team!

jamets
jamets

They're going to call up Brown, Satin, Teagarden, Abreu and Germen.  And Montero and Dice K if they're not already on the roster at the deadline.  That's all.

Robert Smith
Robert Smith

Five reasons the Mets are where they are today 1) Wilpon's  2) Collins  3) Wright  4) Alderson 5) Rest of coaching staff

Wilpon's reasoning is a no brainer they will not spend the money. Collins cannot manage his way out of a paper bag. His on the field decisions are horrible and he has no patience for young players. Wright has never gotten this team anywhere. He constantly chokes in the clutch and is already on the other side of the hill. Alderson almost did not make this list, but refer back to Collins and Wright. I have no idea why he continues to stick with Collins, it will be his downfall. As for Wright he could of traded him two years ago before re-upping him, he could of gotten a nice return for him, but he did nothing. Sandy has made some nice moves and built a pretty damn good farm system and his hands are tied by the Wilpon's. Lot's of GM's make a bad trade here or there, but overall he's done ok. Just get rid of Collins already. And finally the rest of the coaching staff is tied to Collins. They just do not know how to run a team. The Mets are fundamentally bad.

dukewillie
dukewillie

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Bartolo Colon scratched from start, Mets pitcher is on way to Dominican Republic to be with ailing motherBY ANDY MARTINO NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, August 18, 2014, 10:43 AM

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

This article doesn't mention one thing about the 40 man roster. There's two things in play...one is if they have room to even add him to it with any offseason moves they are planning. The second is if he is hurt in spring training, he's dl'ed at the major league level...a huge difference.

crafalko17
crafalko17

I bet his numbers would look a lot better if he wasn't pitching in the worst environment in all of minor league baseball...

Vahid Bacchus
Vahid Bacchus

Don't bring him up to the losing culture of the Mutts

Dennis Carey Abrams
Dennis Carey Abrams

Spelt the guy's name wrong in the headline. That's the Metsblog I know and love.

7up17left
7up17left

Did I just hear right...Colon pulled from start ???  Trade???

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

I like this move, it's not like the Mets are making it to the playoffs and would had slid him in the bullpen.

Metsfan62
Metsfan62

You wont see him in the majors till late June next year. Cheap Mets !

lindro88
lindro88

The only untouchable player on this team should be Matt Harvey.

nagel100
nagel100

trading Noah will be a major mistake.

bingmets
bingmets

Out of wheeler, de grom, and syndergaard; Noah is the only one that should be traded for a bat. Wheeler and de grom have got to be untouchable

law_dogg
law_dogg

Yes, he's really messed up Duda, d'arnaud, Lagares, and deGrom...wait, who exactly did he screw up? The AAAA players you like like Nieuenheis? Come on man...back up the assertions with some facts

crafalko17
crafalko17

@jamets Wouldn't be surprised, they don't want to add anyone to the 40-man that they don't have to, which is the only reason Reynolds is still down in AAA.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@Robert Smith I feel like your Alderson reason goes back to #1, the Wilpons are paying Collins and he is under contract for next year.

joe21
joe21

They have to add him because he is Rule 5 eligible

1harris1
1harris1

@7up17left  Didn't hear that one.  Rubin just posted the lineup on twitter, and it has Colon pitching.


Granderson-Murphy-Wright-Duda-d'Arnaud-Lagares-Tejada-EY-Colon.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Provide some actual thought out reasons as to why Wally has any business being the team's manager next year.

jamets
jamets

@nagel100  They're not trading Noah.  They are building this team aroudn 3 guys - Harvey, Wheeler and Syndergaard.  Everyone else is available for the right price.  But those 3 aren't going anywhere.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@nagel100 Unfortunately there's no way of knowing that for sure.  You have to give up something to get something. By the time you find out you can trade him, it's too late, the asset has lost its' value.   He's struggled this year, and it's been absolutely no benefit to his development that he pitches in arguably the worst environment in AAA baseball for pitchers.  

lindro88
lindro88

Doing nothing about the gigantic holes at SS and one of the corner outfield positions will be a major mistake as well. If they want quality they have to be ready to trade quality. We have no idea how other teams rank our players, or even how we rank them.

1harris1
1harris1

@bingmets  The fact that we haven't seen Syndergaard on the major league level doesn't mean he's the one of the group who we should automatically look to trade.  Have to be careful with that. 

lindro88
lindro88

Depends on the bat. Before this season, everyone on this blog would have traded either of them before "Thor". Now he has a tough season at Triple A and he's the only one that should be traded?

whizz17
whizz17

Ummmm he didn't fix d'Arnaud, he went to Vegas and Wally fixed him. Duda was not hitting this well until Lamar Johnson became the hitting coach. Remember TC wanted to keep Hudgens. Montero has not looked good, Den Dekker was killing it until he came to the majors and so was Flores. There are some facts for you...

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

The reality is he pitches 80% of his games in Coors field type environments. His overall performance isn't tied in just to his era.

Brandon Hillman
Brandon Hillman

At this point knock flores all u want but David Wright sucks right now and does not get a day off. If u want tejada to start so bad terry, move flores to third and give wright a day off. Fyi flores has better numbers for entire month of August then wright and has less starts.

lindro88
lindro88

I agree, they have to be careful. I'm just saying the other two are also young pitchers. Age should have nothing to do with this.

lindro88
lindro88

Those two have shown they can pitch at a high level in the big leagues, he hasn't. They are all young enough that age shouldn't be part of the decision. If the Cubs were ready to trade a 25 year old 3 time All Star for a 21 year old pitcher, I'd make that trade every day of the week.

jamets
jamets

@lindro88 Exactly.  That's understandable from a fan's perspective, but luckily no front office thinks that way.  If Thor was valued more highly than Wheeler before the season, he still is.  Its about the stuff and the projections, not the performance in AAA, especially in the PCL.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@BringBackDaveTelghe The ball flies like it is in Coor's Field, but the additional issue is the dryness which multiple pitchers have said makes it near impossible to throw the breaking ball well. Harvey and Wheeler both were having issues in AAA before being called up. It really is the worst place to try and just talent from both a pitching and hitting perspective.

Erik Scheibe
Erik Scheibe

@Brandon Hillman  they should sit Wright until he's healthy.  At this point he is embarrassing himself and hurting the team.  They are creating stress and missing opportunities to let Flores and Tejada get more playing time in case they could develop value in a trade.


thecasuaLGM
thecasuaLGM

@Brandon Hillman Well that is just splitting hairs. DW in August: 244/289/256 0HR 1 2B. WF in August: 228/267/281 0HR 3 2B. 

Erik Scheibe
Erik Scheibe

@lindro88  You would only make it once, because you'd be fired immediately afterwards.

jaydhn
jaydhn

@lindro88 No way would I trade Noah for Starlin, who plays SS on the level of Flores. Starlin is barely a SS and has deficiencies. If you are trading a top 15 prospect in the league, you have to get something better back. 

Ed Yano
Ed Yano

Maybe they should trade him for a 25 yr old who has already been an all star 3 times

jamets
jamets

@jaydhn @lindro88  I also have no interest in Castro, but to compare him to Flores is ridiculous.  Castro is not a good SS, but he is a SS.  Flores is not.  Their defense isn't comparable.

thecasuaLGM
thecasuaLGM

@crafalko17 @thecasuaLGM @BringBackDaveTelghe 3.68 era in 110 innings, so not struggling nearly as much as Syndergaard. and i only mentioned buffalo because you made it seem like harvey was in the PCL before he was called up. i agree with the other stuff you said. look at MDD age 24 in buffalo 220/256/373 and age 25 in Vegas 296/366/486. clearly the environment is affecting stats