Montero

Syndergaard, Montero reassigned to minor league camp

RHP prospects Noah Syndergaard and Rafael Montero were both reassigned to minor league camp, the team announced.

They are likely to start the season in the starting rotation at Triple-A Las Vegas.

“It’s always disappointing when you get a taste of being in the big-league clubhouse, getting the treatment like a big leaguer gets, and then you’ve got to go back over to the minor-league side where things aren’t so glamorous. So that’s kind of disappointing,” Syndergaard said (Rubin, March 18). “The message was we’ll see you pretty soon, basically. That’s always a good thing to hear,” he said (Ehalt, March 18).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I grew more and more impressed with Montero with each time I watched him pitch. I entered camp assuming his size and style would limit him to being a reliever, though I wanted to reserve judgement until seeing him against big-league hitters. I did and I’m happy he looked great. Obviously, he has a slippery fastball and terrific control, which help mitigate his height and arm angle. However, I was most impressed with how well he commands every inning he’s on the mound.

He is young and with very little experience, he blazed through the farm system, and yet he approaches each pitch with a purpose and appears to have a really good sense of what needs to happen around him to get out of the inning with as little damage as possible. It can take a pitcher years of big-league time to learn that – and in some cases it may never happen at all. Montero seems to get it already, which puts me back into the camp of people wanting to see him continue as a starting pitcher.

I’m fine with the strategy of debuting him in the bullpen, if need be, because I trust this front office to manage that properly. But, in the long run, when all is said and done, I’m hoping he starts the baseball game and doesn’t only get to finish it.


RHP Joel Carreno, RHP Cory Mazzoni, INF Brandon Allen and INF Matt Clark were also reassigned, while C Juan Centeno and RHP Ryan Reid were optioned to the minor league camp.


Update – 4:10 p.m.: The Mets reassigned RHP Miguel Socolovich to minor league camp after Tuesday’s game.




64 comments
Anthony Schifano
Anthony Schifano

I do not trust this organization to put another guy with a lot of promise back and forth between the bullpen and rotation. I just think it is so unwise in every way.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Seems like we have been having the same conversation since November. Would much rather see the kids than trudge through another lost season would mediocre aging veterans. Atlanta suddenly has pitching issues. And Washington may not be as tough as everyone seems to think. But we clearly cannot compete with the lineup and rotation as it currently stands.

Evander Smart
Evander Smart

Looks like the plan all along remains.  Noah in June, Montero is September.

hashburry
hashburry

Trusting this front office.  That is hilarious.  There is a conga line of bullpen arms this group, including TC, have burned out over the last few years.  In that regard, they are no different than Omar, et al.  Short term visionaries like Collins have no track record that indicates they care about young arms.  TC is constantly trying to save how job.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

I'd much rather Montero start the year as a starter, and not a mid inning reliever. That leaves him as a choice if someone is injured in the rotation, and keeps his trade value.

nolrog
nolrog

>>> They are likely to start the season in the starting rotation at Triple-A Las Vegas.

Wow, going out on a limb there with that prediction.

rico
rico

I've never understood why baseball starts on April 1, it;s always too cold, too many snow days and bad weather days. No fun going to the park in football weather. These are the boys of summer not the boys of east coast weather events. But greed is greed and the owners will never slim down the schedule which I also think should end on Sept 1 if you want to keep the post season out of November. 


What I'm getting at is that I don't have a problem having the young pitchers open the season in better climates where they can get in rhythm  and get polished before the join the big club later in the spring or june.  They are the stars of the future not the present. 


drmetfan
drmetfan

Matt, I glad to see your opinion on Montero has changed. This kid looks like the real deal. I can't wait to see him at Citi later this year.  

simbad
simbad

I think it's ridiculous if Montero starts in the bullpen. He has the form and everything of a starter, and just needs more experience pitching every five days. Terry Collins can bat the pitcher 8th and even wear the same bad shades Tony Larussa wore. The Mets do not equal the Cardinals and just do not have the credibility that team has had. Not enough to take gambles on their younger players.

jlga
jlga

Maybe he meant 90 wins over the next two seasons.

tullydew
tullydew

Which GM is worse, Sandy or Idzik?

Both are equally incompetent.

AJ Xtreem
AJ Xtreem

Why is this a surprise?? Its about keeping them and extra year not about winning its about money.

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

When has the Front Office managed anything properly since before 2006. Matt, what you been smoking?

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Please don't waste this guy in the BP. He needs to start.

Brian Guiseppone
Brian Guiseppone

No Stephen Drew post? Lol. This organization is pathetic. We need a shortstop. Tejada sucks. Lineup sucks.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

What a cookie cutter unknowledgeable thing to say. "I entered camp assuming his size and style would limit him to the bullpen. This guys throws hard and has polished secondary pitches, has very good control and doesn't walk anyone, sounds like a starter to me. I still don't get what ur size has to do w pitching. I'm sure it helps, but size shouldn't define ur opinion ab a pitcher.

Someone has to get put in the bullpen if in the long run we have 3 spots locked up to Harvey Wheele and Syndergaard.  The next year it's still Colon and probably Gee/Niese.  Doesn't really leave any space for Montero or deGrom.  Someone has to get put in the bullpen not everyone can be a SP

richard58
richard58

Cerrone must be practicing for his stand-up routine - "I trust this front office to manage that properly." THAT"s funny!

Keith Allen-Verdi
Keith Allen-Verdi

Starting him in the bullpen until someone gets hurt or pitches himself out of the rotation isnt THAT bad of an idea in order to keep him for as much of the season as possible. 


Didn't we try this twice already with Mejia?..it failed and messed him up

grandpamet
grandpamet

Whats the difference between being reassigned and optioned to minor league camp?


Also, Im as frustrated as everyone else and I would so much rather watch Mejia pitch than Dice-K (Lannan in the rotation is so ridiculous it doesnt deserve a mention) but Mejia has a major obstacle in his innings limit. Off the top of my head I think he pitched 30 or so innings in the minors and then another 30 approx in the majors. Starting him in the bullpen until someone gets hurt or pitches himself out of the rotation isnt THAT bad of an idea in order to keep him for as much of the season as possible. 


I  agree with Cerrone in that I trust this management to handle bullpen to rotation transition more so than I did the Omar regime. 

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Keep these guys away from this mess.....  


this season's a complete write-off.....  


the Mets might be the worst team in baseball.  


We have the tight limbed Duda and Davis, Tubby Tejada, another reclamation project in left, a catching prospect who's living off a reputation from three year's ago.....our winningest pitcher is 50 lbs. overweight and 41 year's old.....


.....this team is punchline.  


Glad we have a "plan" where it all comes together on or around the 30th anniversary of the last time we won.  


It took the Braves 2 days to sign a guy to a $14.1M contract to salvage their season.  We're all about "Super 2" and saving a few bucks - maybe - three year's from now assuming our stable of can't miss, once in a generation, completely untouchable, much in demand, unrivaled super star talents, pan out.  


The Yankees 5th starter this year is going to be Michael Pineda.  A 25 y/o, 6'7", 260 lbs. monster who was considered a far superior prospect to anything the Mets have in their system.  On that side of the Triboro he gets almost no attention.  On that side of the Triboro prospects are suspects until they do it between the lines.   


The Yankees plan is to win today.  Who knows, we might all be dead three years from now like the scores of other die hard Mets fans who have gone on to the HOF in the sky waiting for the latest 5 year plan to bear fruit.  


I'm only being honest when I say I like their plan a hell of a lot better.


qualcomm
qualcomm

Thank goodness!  I was afraid I'd have to be entertained in April... now i can relax and not pay attention until June.

tullydew
tullydew

Just another move proving the Wilpons are cheap/broke.

Boycott Citi Field

Greg Dee
Greg Dee

Gee is good. he improved a lot. might be one of their best pitchers with Niese always being hurt. Syndergaurd doesnt have the innings yet. what good is he if you have to take him out in the fourth or half way thru the year? even harvey said he got exhausted by the end. have to be patient. why force them in now just so you can complain after they get hurt or misused. I want to see them pitch too but when the time is right. Go Mets!!

philoso
philoso

Or, Montero in June; Noah in September. montero has logged many more innings in AAA than Noah

crafalko17
crafalko17

@Kevin VanTassell The whole point of the reliever is to get rid of the innings limit situation. Then he would be able to be with the team the entire season. I am fine either way tbh, either in AAA as a starter or a reliever in the big leagues, as long as the ultimate goal is to bring him north as a starter next year.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@rico Not much you can do about it when the season tends to end in early November. I love the baseball schedule and I love that it encompasses half the year. Best sport out there.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@tullydew Let's throw Glenn Sather into the mix. The deal for St. Louis may wind up keeping Rangers out of the playoffs. Who could have seen this coming? How about everyone?

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@tullydew  Idzik by far! At least his owner spends money! He has no excuse other than pure incompetence

hashburry
hashburry

Giants have a young guy out of options at SS behind Crawford, Adrianza, that the mets should be inquiring about,  But hey, Franklin or bust, right?

grandpamet
grandpamet

@Keith Allen-Verdi  Woah, I didnt even see this post. We said the same exact thing even to the capitalized letters...I like where your heads at. 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Keith Allen-Verdi  Color me confused; I don't understand any of this.  Super two/ Thor... ok fine, but do they EVER want to see Mejia? He's been on the team since 1967 lol

qualcomm
qualcomm

@grandpamet Between Mejia, Thor and Montero.. I think there should be at least 300 MLB innings in there.  Start Mejia, swap him with Thor and let Montero have his full year of experience so he's not green next year.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Macacawitz " A 25 y/o, 6'7", 260 lbs. monster who was considered a far superior prospect to anything the Mets have in their system"  Ummm c'mon now, that's overblown. He's a big league pitcher (not a prospect) who has been hurt.   

The Yankees will struggle to win 82 games this year, so i wouldn't use them as the example.   I'd use Atlanta; they let the young players play and sign who they need.   It's actually a pretty simple thing. 

If Sandy is being forced to act like the Rays, then he has to be allowed to play all the youth  We might be an 85-90 win team if we combined our Vegas team with the MLB team and then locked Collins in a room so he couldn't ruin it.  


Alessandro Fustinoni
Alessandro Fustinoni

It's the only thing we can do tully! A 60,000+ fan protest outside Citi fied the day before opening day would be amazing!! Outside the offices main entrance!!

qualcomm
qualcomm

Nobody is trying to rush Thor.  People are annoyed because we're also not using Mejia and Montero

Anthony Schifano
Anthony Schifano

I'd rather Gee in the 5th spot. Niese just got his handicapped parking tag today.

hashburry
hashburry

@crafalko17 @Kevin VanTassell  So he throws 60 innings this year.  How does that help in 2015?  Another 2016 option.  The Mets aren't even close to building the stud rotation for 2015.  Thor will be limited.  No one has any idea what will happen with Harvey.  Bunch of other recent TJ surgery starters (A's, Braves, D-Backs) who are young blew out their arms and are having second TJ surgery, which basally means they are done. Hence, Harvey 2015 will likely be on a limit for both pitch count and innings.  Wheeler will be the "veteran" out of the future guys.  Montero hence will not be ready for the rotation either.  Anyone that sees this team competing in the next 2 years is delusional.

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

@crafalko17 @rico  It is the best sport out there.  However, most of the older generation will not allow it to change even for the better.  Baseball should not be competing with the NFL in November.  There shouldn't be baseball games played when it's below 40 degrees outside.  I wouldn't mind having the games still start in April, but they should end September 1.  Although, part of that may be because it's been so long since post-season baseball involved the Mets.  

babyface
babyface

@Ken Thall @tullydew No.  You're wrong.  Dolan and Jeffie would need a steel cage match to determine who's the worst.  Woody Johnson isn't even in the conversation.

nolrog
nolrog

@Ken Thall I was just thinking that.  Idzik has only been there 1 year.  We'll see how he does this off-season and draft.

rico
rico

@Joseph DeFazio @crafalko17 I don't think it's about "the older generation" I know it's about TV money and greed by owners and TV revenue.  Try and change that?