Where things stand with the Mets and Stephen Drew

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The Mets do not want to lock in to free-agent SS Stephen Drew beyond a one-year deal, I’m hearing from people close to the team, mostly because Asdrubal CabreraYunel EscobarJed Lowrie and Hanley Ramirez, among others, are likely to be free agents next winter.

My understanding is that, for similar reasons, Drew is looking to sign at least a two- or three-year deal.

Stephen DrewIn other words, it’s a possibility – not a probability – the Mets end up signing Drew, according to Mets insiders, but they think they’re being used by Scott Boras to help get his client a better deal from the Red Sox (Rubin, Jan. 5).

If I had to bet, I’d say Boras is using the Mets and the Red Sox to get a better deal out of a third team that isn’t getting a lot of attention. This is usually how he operates. He pits Team A against Team B, he hounds them incessantly, then out of nowhere and with no warning in the press, the player signs with Team C for more than anyone expected and we all say, “How did that happen?” I get the feeling this is one of those situations…

Boston isn’t desperate for Drew. And, while he’d be an upgrade in Queens, there are shortstops still available in trade, such as Dee Gordon and Didi Gregorius. This may be part of the reason Sandy Alderson is trying to get a pitcher for Ike Davis, because it might help justify parting with one of similar quality to get a shortstop. Or, Alderson could again bet on Ruben Tejada, before taking a crack at next year’s more inspiring free-agent class.




166 comments
bobm
bobm

ny mets should sign drew because he would be andimprove ment over  rubin tejadea offer hima two year deal  andoption  if he doesnn't work out you cancut him  ater the first year  wit a buy out

maxster
maxster

It's all BS. Iwould'nt go within 20 miles of Citi, screw them.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

So if Chris Young is the only money coming off after this year, how are we going to afford one of these SS net year? His money will be offset by Grandy increase net year and the expected raises in arbitration. So we are to believe then that they are going to actually increase payroll net year? Come on! They've gone down every year. They don't want to win! 

waloco47
waloco47

i am in shock we wont offer a 2 year deal. we just gave bartolo a 2 year deal when we have sp coming back and coming up in 2015. yet when we have zero depth and no ss prospect close to mlb we are hesitant bc there are fa next year (who will be more expensive and more teams will need ss) 


it sounds like drew would take a 2 year deal around 25 mil. how he wasnt signed yesterday stumps me. im not even a fan of drew and think we need him.



David Wright
David Wright

Sell the Mets if you can't afford to give New York a quality product.

Daniel Wexler
Daniel Wexler

This site has some bizarre blind spot when it comes to the status of Yunel Escobar. His option was ALWAYS going to be picked up this year and he has an identical 2015 option as well (a ridiculous bargain) he's NOT going to be a FA. Peralta 53 million, Escobar 10 million over the next 2.. hmmm?

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

If this is about money, then this franchise is in major trouble. This is the reality that is constantly being overlooked and never spoken of....especially on this SNY owned blog: 


The Mets have Santana, Bay and Francisco's salaries off the books, at a total of 48 million dollars (Roughly 50 Million). This off season, they have failed to even just REPLACE that money. To date, they have signed Young to 7.25 mil, Colon will be paid 10 million this season, and Granderson will make 13 million. Combined, that's only 30.25 million. The Mets have only replaced 30 of 50 million that came off the books....and I have to hear that the dollars don't add up for Drew? That guys are out of their pay range? This is getting RIDICULOUS. On the surface, it appears the Mets have been busy acquiring payroll, but in reality, they haven't even replaced what was lost. 


If the argument is Drew isn't a fit, be it for production of length of contract, then fine. If its about inability to come up with the funds, then I have nothing else to comment on.

rben
rben

I love the Mets and their constant excuses for not doing things.  We can see how this plays out.  Pass on signing Drew saying they will look to sign a SS next offseason.  Next offseason comes and their 1st round pick is not protected.  Here comes the new excuse "We dont' want to give up a draft pick for player A" .  I love the spin cycle the mets have their fan base in

KMO82
KMO82

First off you don't know who is actually going to be available next offseason.  Secondly, the Mets won't go after Hanley if for nothing else Sandy will never give the contract he wants.  So, of the guys mentioned I would only see the Mets going after Lowrie.  Is he that much better then Drew?  If so, won't it cost more?  Plus, next offseason he will most likely cost us a first round pick.  Considering the actual options, Lowrie, combined with his asking price and cost in draft pick; I don't see the logic in not signing Drew for 2 years now.  

Steven Ruley
Steven Ruley

I say sign him for 2 years assuming he accepts and if you can get a better shortstop next year trade him for a prospect or 2. That is if he doesn't have a career year.

tommets
tommets

Then why not sign Drew to a one year deal. It'll knock some sense into Tejada that he has to work to get his job back then trade Drew at the deadline for prospects.

metstastic
metstastic

Finally some talk about how much better the next SS free agent class is and why we shouldn't give more than a year to Drew!

John Cucci
John Cucci

Maybe sign Drew to a 2 year deal this year and next year move him to second, sign one of the mentioned available SS and possibly flip Murph for some pitching?  Drew makes us better for this year.  As it stands, we aren't a much different looking team than last year.  We're hoping for C Young, we're hoping for Lagares, we're hoping for Tejada, we're hoping for TDA and we're hoping for Ike. 5/8 position players are legitimate questions marks.  Drew would help.

Bringback86
Bringback86

C'mon...like the Mets would seriously go after any of the afore mentioned ss. They're not in the business to win...they just want us to think that...this franchise is an investment for the Wilpon's...

crash
crash

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I really don't want to see Hanley Ramirez with the Mets. Sure, the guy has skills. He also has more baggage than a 767. And is also a major injury risk. I'm willing to field a stopgap SS but I never want to see Omar Quintanilla in a Met uniform again.

Metsnow
Metsnow

Sign Drew to 2 years....Tejada sucks and is a huge liability at the plate. Waiting for next season is BS and sounds to me like the same old story!! We've been saying wait til next year since 2006

Brian Sementa
Brian Sementa

only met fans cry and mone about not signing a 260 hitter

nolrog
nolrog

>>> mostly because Asdrubal CabreraYunel EscobarJed Lowrie and Hanley Ramirez, among others, are likely to be free agents next winter.


And then we can hear all about how "Asdrubal CabreraYunel EscobarJed Lowrie and Hanley Ramirez, among others" are all too expensive for the Mets, and how the free agent contracts are "scary".

methead
methead

I was all for Drew but considering the SS available next year, I think it makes sense.  I know the Met Fan is going to argue "they aint gonna spend"  but I think they will.  And if I can get a superior SS next year when it actually will matter more, I am ok with going an inferior SS this year.  Drew is a good player but he isn't a middle of the order type guy,  He is a role player on a team that needs a middle of the order guy.  

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@David Wright I still say it's Jeff Wilpon. As he's gotten more and more control over this team, the payroll has gone down and down. He looks at this as his money and doesn't care about winning. Even when you hear him talk, he's just content on being competitive. He doesn't want to win a championship. He wants to spend as little as he can just to be good enough to have attendance so he can make money. Ain't working so far Jeffrey! Sell the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bobbysf
bobbysf

@Daniel Wexler  Maybe baseball-ref is out of reach of the site? Rays have a team option for 2015 on YE, indeed, which also makes him rather expensive on the trade market. The time to have pounced on Escobar was when the Rays did. 



bobbysf
bobbysf

@Ryan Flanagan I may be naive but I don't think this is about money. It's more of a baseball planning decision. And, sure, Drew makes us better for the 120 games we can expect he'll play in 2014, but Sandy's priority is not 2014, whether the Mets fanbase likes to hear that or not. 


Why is Drew, a solid shortstop with a good stick, in this position? The fact 20 teams will have to give up their first round raft pick has reduced his market. No doubt. But I think the fact that you can't depend on him for 1/4 plus of the season is also a factor in his not drawing many multi year offers. Why would Sandy at this point give him the 3 year deal he's been looking for all this time? Makes no sense. He's a Met if we can get him mostly on our terms. I see nothing wrong with that. We're not talking about a transformative player here.

KMO82
KMO82

@Ryan Flanagan Don't forget about the extra 25 Million they are getting on the new national TV contract.  So, all they really have done is spent that lol.  Also, I rather get Drew now and lose the third round pick then hear that Lowrie is the Mets target next year and even he is to "pricey" considering he will also cost us a first round pick.

lindro88
lindro88

@tommets I think the point is that if Drew only gets one year offers, he's going to end up back in Boston. 

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

@metstastic  Name one guy from this list that the Mets could actually afford next season, that makes sense, and will be available:


Mike Aviles (34) - club option
Asdrubal Cabrera (29)
Yunel Escobar (32) - $5MM club option
Rafael Furcal (37)
J.J. Hardy (32)
Derek Jeter (41)
Jed Lowrie (31)
Hiroyuki Nakajima (32) - $5.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Nick Punto (37) - club/vesting option
Hanley Ramirez (31)
Jimmy Rollins (36) - vesting/club/player option


I know I cant.

bobbysf
bobbysf

@John Cucci Excellent point. I'd offer the 2nd year. That shouldn't block us from upgrading the up the middle next winter. Still, I wouldn't go crazy on Drew. Bottom line is you can expect a solid shortstop (extremely valuable!), but one who will miss more than 1/4 of your games. Drew or not, Tejada is important for us in 2013.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@nolrog This excuse is getting old. They signed Granderson didn't they. Gave him $60 million when everyone thought they werne't signing anyone. Now Alderson is doing exactly what he said he was going to do which was to have flexibility year over year without giving many huge contracts in one season.

bobbysf
bobbysf

@John McNamara Buster rarely writes something positive about the Mets. I like what he does, but I think he has a tad of a bias towards the Yanks, since he covered them for many years at the Times. That said, I like Buster's work. He's not Bill Madden, who was George's voice for decades at the News.

bobbysf
bobbysf

@Tarheel11 @David Wright I'd be happier if Jeff was playing in some other Wilpon realm, but it is what it is. Still, he can't be totally out of it. The problem is that attendance and ratings continue to bleed, and at this point it will take more than one winning year to improve in those areas. The idea that the Mets can make good  with a mediocre team is not a good one. The fall from competent to laughable can ge quick (see 2009, 1st year of Citi). 


Financial problems or not, we are well on our way to punting a generation of fans to the Bronx. But the quick fix won't solve it, as you'll see that one good year alone will not cause attendance to surge significantly or permanently. All in all, I have confidence in Sandy. He's not going to make the right calls all the time, but he's not going to get into all the reactive junk that the Wilpons always obsess about. He's not going to sell the future for headlines today.  I do wonder what happens after Sandy. If it's Jeff's call, I think we need a whole lot of luck! 

Daniel Wexler
Daniel Wexler

@bobbysf 100%. Ideally you would somehow find another "Escobar" situation where a team is ready to dump a guy for nickels on the dollar but it's not common to find a team like the Marlins (who traded him for a "solid" but nothing special return). Given the money Peralta got, the money Drew will still get (despite being tied to a pick) and the future money of guys like Hardy, Escobar is a MASSIVE bargain for TB. IF they eventually opt to "move on" it will be via trade (with a substantial return) given his contract status.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@bobbysf @Ryan Flanagan Can Sandy let us know what year he is planning on having a winning ballclub in Queens, if not 2014?  Is it 2016? 2026?

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

@bobbysf @Ryan Flanagan I understand that you don't just spend to spend, but the Mets literally have holes all over their roster. Yet, you don't replace the money awarded? We have a PATHETIC payroll....PATHETIC. There is no excuse. I want to build a strong farm and I love seeing home grown talent, but you compliment that with proven MLB players. Finding that balance is key. The Mets will not spend. 


This is not about Drew...it just happened my comment was on a post about him. I personally am not the biggest fan of Drew, I'm just stating that if I have to hear for ANY player that money is an issue, I have a major problem with that if there's 20 million sitting on the table from last year.

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

@KMO82 @Ryan Flanagan That's a great point that I forgot to mention. Also, the fact that Mets own 65% of SNY, which grossed a profit of 268 million in 2012....which would equate to the Mets getting 174.2 million in revenue. That money however, instead of being used to increase payroll, was  used to help pay debts and litigation fees. Total joke and this is NEVER mentioned on this blog. Those are two infuriating realities.

metstastic
metstastic

@Ryan Flanagan@metstasticHardy for one.. Lowrie another. I might even consider Rollins on a 1-2 year deal.. The point is.. There is one SS.. Drew..  available this year.. There will be many available at the deadline and next offseason.

bobbysf
bobbysf

@Ryan Flanagan @metstastic They can afford any of them. That's not the problem. The problem with the list is that it is extremely uninspiring, except for Hanley, who more than likely will re-up with Dodgers. Except for Hanley, I wouldn't give anyone a better contract than Drew. And, Punto, Aviles, Furcal, and Nakajima are bench guys at best.

Joe Tipaldo
Joe Tipaldo

@Lee Lewin@nolrog they gave Grandy a contract that kept them within the ridiculously low payroll. if signing Grandy or anyone else for that matter meant that they end up with payroll of 90 to 100m, then grandy would not be on this team. its not about the spending, it's about the payroll which drives or hinders the spending. they spent within their means, which is admirable but their means sucks for a big market team.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Ryan Flanagan @methead who knows, but to throw your eggs in one basket now and not see where you stand in a year is dumb. 


Fact is with harvey coming back, THOR on his way up this year, if this pans out the Mets will have the ability to deal from luxury. Why go now on Drew when you can go much better even through trade market next year. 

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

@KMO82 @metstastic @Ryan Flanagan Neither really excite me, but Drew would be the most probable because of the Mets lack of money and their desire to keep picks. I wouldn't to give up a solid pick for Lowrie.

bobbysf
bobbysf

@Ryan Flanagan @bobbysf @metstastic Agree! I think smart money is on Hanley being a 3rd baseman sooner rather than later, which would make him a poor fit in Flushing. But, man, the guy can hit. He had an awesome year. Dodgers will extend him. He's a good fit there. I can probably hit better than Dee Gordon.:-) And they seem to be okay letting Hanley man shortstop if that's what he wants. 

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

@bobbysf @Ryan Flanagan @metstastic Beyond the affordability of the players, I completely agree. The list isn't very good, and on top of that, at least in my opinion, the Mets would not drop a 100 million dollars on a Hanley Ramirez. Depending on the kind of season he has, and the way contracts have been going, he will surely get a pay day out of the Met's price range. Yunel is a possibility but he doesn't really excite me. The market for SS just really isn't that good, and I completely disagree with Cerrone that next year's FA class for SS is "inspiring"

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Joe Tipaldo @Lee Lewin @nolrog Again, they gave him $15 million a year. How much more did you want them to spend? Is Elllsbury worth the contract? What about Cano? Out of all the big players signed this off season the Mets got the BEST deal. 

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan


@Lee Lewin @Ryan Flanagan @methead I pretty much agree. There will be a Stephen Drew next year, and the year after, and the year after. This guy is nothing special and if the years and the money aren't right, they should stay away.