Spring Training: Mets at Cardinals, 1 p.m.

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The Game: Daisuke Matsuzaka will start for the Mets, with Jeurys Familia, Jose Valverde, Steven Matz, Carlos Torres, Joel Carreno and Jack Leathersich expected to pitch.

New York Mets

  1. Juan Lagares – CF
  2. Anthony Seratelli* – SS
  3. Curtis Granderson – RF
  4. Ike Davis – 1B
  5. Josh Satin – 3B
  6. Brandon Allen – DH
  7. Travis d’Arnaud – C
  8. Andrew Brown – LF
  9. Wilmer Flores – 2B

Diasuke Matsuzaka – RHP

St. Louis Cardinals

  1. Matt Carpenter – 3B
  2. Peter Bourjos – CF
  3. Matt Holliday – LF
  4. Allen Craig – RF
  5. Yadier Molina – DH
  6. Matt Adams – 1B
  7. Mark Ellis – 2B
  8. Tony Cruz – C
  9. Pete Kozma – SS

Michael Wacha – RHP

*Seratelli is starting for Ruben Tejada, who was pulled from the lineup due to a tight left hamstring.




48 comments
sylow59
sylow59

Matt: 44 posts. Maybe you should rethink things. Like a new comment system. Editing. Interacting with the posters. ...

hankypanky
hankypanky

Of the 4 hits by the Mets, Granderson was the only regular to get one. The other three were by Nimmo and two no-names.

eric88
eric88

Like last year, no offense. Opening day we have 6 .200 to .225 hitters starting depending whether Duda or Ike starts. 5 of the 6 will be in the lineup, that's an MLB record for opening day futility. It's going to be a long year. Sportsbooks say 73.5 wins. They have been within a game and a half or better last 6 years. Read NY Post article called Ground Hog Day from Friday. It says it all.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Anyone know how Granderson and Davis are doing?

tommets
tommets

If anyone's wondering they're getting crushed 7-1

Ed
Ed

So I guess we can flip-flop Steve Matz now over Jack Leathersich after today's outing as the top lefty in the Mets System?

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

Matz did very well for a guy ticketed for Single A this year. Molina is one of the best all around hitters in the game, and Mark Ellis and Tony Cruz are nothing to balk at. Mets might have another stud on the horizon 

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

Steven Matz takes care of Molina with three pitches, promising.

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

The cardinals announcers are terrible, or maybe I'm just spoiled by the Mets having such great announcers.

John Schod
John Schod

It is unbelievable that on a cold, winter Sunday that you don't have the game against the Cards on tv. Nice way to build enthusiasm into the season. As a Mets fan, it is difficult always being the little guy in the prison cell!

pundit18
pundit18

Someone did a study of this that I think Toby Hyde posted a year or two ago. There is actually a slight correlation between having a LOSING record in ST and a winning record in the regular system. In short, ST results are more or less random.

Michael Jankowski
Michael Jankowski

Why hasnt David wright played in any game yet dont he news at bats as well third game and still no Wright.

jonathanl
jonathanl

It's on MLB Network at midnight if you really want to watch

mets2891
mets2891

Tejada's fat ass is already hurt.  Fantastic. 

Its Daisuke, not Diasuke.

Frank Kajtazi
Frank Kajtazi

I found it on the MLB channel at MIDNIGHT,so gotta DVR it!

Joe Kurioo
Joe Kurioo

why is flores playing 2nd. smh 

vipregan
vipregan

Is it possible that we could lose all spring training games?

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

The Cardinals line up is stacked. Mets pitching have their work cut out for them today

Is the game on tv?

eric88
eric88

@hankypanky  Same as usual. Grandy is going to strikeout 175 times because they won't pitch to him and he is prone to chase pitches 

sylow59
sylow59

I live in St Louis. They are terrible. Shannon us the worst.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@John Schod  I get some games need to be untelevised, but there's something about todays lack of a Sunday afternoon t.v cast that really angers me. 

hankypanky
hankypanky

For what it is worth, the old Yankee machines decades ago always had lousy ST records. They did what they had to do, which was to exploit ST as a warm-up for the real thing. What worries me about the Mets is that they are under enormous pressure to look good early. Which is why I think the bullpen will be over-used and tired by June.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Ah, a Tejada's fan speaks. Yup, nothing like a racist remark to warm up the blog.

jamets
jamets

I said it before - the talk of playing Flores at SS is just that - talk.  It's not going to happen.

And he is just learning to play 2B, so he should be at 2B every chance they get.  Right now, that's his best route to the major leagues, although a lot of people doubt his D will ever be good enough at 2B to play there regularly in the majors.

jongonz718
jongonz718

@vipregan  red sox went 17-17 and won the world series right? these games don't matter, it's met fans like you i hope this team shuts up.

Jimmy P.
Jimmy P.

They are a great example of a excellent run baseball franchise. Especially being in that metropolis of St. Louis, Missouri

Robert Wright
Robert Wright

 Yes, it is on Fox Sports MW.  DirecTV 671

Opti-Mets-tic
Opti-Mets-tic

 Yes, if you live in St. Louis or subscribe to MLB.TV. Gary and Keith or Ron, will not be at this particular game.

John Schod
John Schod

Do you feel any excitement towards the season rather than standing on a train track and seeing the light coming from the other side of the tunnel.

Any long-time Mets fan is willing to accept limited periods of success for many seasons of disappointment. But don't lie to us and demean us by constantly giving us "the curveball in the dirt," and thinking that we don't know any better.

I would rather loss 100 games letting the young talent develop and giving us something to hope for rather than win 75 games and be in the same situation next year!

flushed
flushed

by your rationale your comment is also racist...seriously, think about it.

sylow59
sylow59

They are a great example that sustained winning comes from producing the majority of talent (top, middle, and bench) internally via draft and/or good trades, signing FAs to fill in as and when needed, and not throwing oodles of money at aging players that essentially compensates them for prior production while losing top draft picks. This is close to the current Met model. But this fan base is livid over payroll when they should be livid about the way draft picks were lost throwing piles of money at players past their prime (then whining about it). For every Beltran there are a dozen Bays. .

@nolrog @jongonz718 @vipregan  

the Mets have now a long history of losing. The more they lose, no matter where that is, the more they soldify that culture. 

bleck319
bleck319

I agree with much of what was said above. But the Cardinals payroll is at least $25 million more than the Mets. For that amount of money the Mets could fill 2 huge holes. Why not sign Stephen Drew for 2-3 years? It will not break the bank and will fill a position they need desperately. I do not see a major SS prospect in the Mets farm system who will be ready within the next 2 years and I do not see them foolishly spending $100 million plus on a Hanley Ramirez type free agent. So why not a middle ground of Drew? Tejada has zero power and zero speed. Then next year they can fill some more offensive holes via free agency while the young pitching develops. This team is so weak offensively and lacks power.

What also angers me is the high ticket prices relative to many other teams, while the payroll is that of a small market team.

sylow59
sylow59

That's flat out stupid. Really stupid. First KC is a 5 hour drive and there's pretty much nothing in between. Their main competition are the Cubs. And the Cubs tend to have big payrolls from time to time. So you don't even know the competition or the geography.

From the tone of your post you seem to believe that winning year in and year out, generally considered as the team to beat, and having a 95+ win roster tied up for the next 4 years for well under 150M, with a pipeline of talent most teams would drool over is not enough to keep a fan base interested. If the Mets had the Cards roster I guess you'd be disappointed because they were cheap.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@sylow59  Well they compete with the Royals for a fan base, so they don't need to throw money at too many F?A's to draw.

sylow59
sylow59

I was speaking solely about production. Perhaps a bad example. Castillo, Pedro, Ssntana, ... All were busts so are Pujols and Hamilton. I remember seeing that a very small percentage of 100M+ contracts ever come close to the expected production.

Regarding the Cards placement in payroll:

+20M keeps them at 11th but -20M takes them to 20th.

+/-30 gets them to 8th/25th.

There are 15 teams between 70M and 109M

hankypanky
hankypanky

You are right on except for the remark about Bay, who played his heart out despite his concussions. There were far worse signings than him. The Cardinal organization should be a template for the Mets. Complete professionalism from top to bottom, the way it ought to be. The Cardinals placed 11th in team spending, btw.