Sandy likes d’Arnaud, Sandy likes Plawecki

Mets Triple-A C Kevin Plawecki is knocking on the big-league door, but Travis d’Arnaud is the ‘incumbent,’ Sandy Alderson said Thursday in Binghamton (Press & Sun-Bulletin, Sept. 4).

“We have two pretty good catchers now,” he said, noting that d’Arnaud is hitting well in the big-leagues. “Plawecki is at Triple-A now, so he’s knocking at the door. We like Travis. We like Kevin. We like them both. I would expect that we’ll see them both in spring training next year and see where it takes us.”


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This past winter, MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo said Plawecki is on the verge of cracking the top 10 minor-league catchers in baseball (MLB.com, Jan. 17).

He has a knack for hitting for average and getting on base, explained Mayo, adding, “If he displays a little more power and continues to prove to people that he can stay behind the plate despite his big frame, he could be a big league regular someday.”


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: Plawecki is important to the Mets, who come across as very confident in his ability to one day hit in the big leagues. He is the model for their approach at the plate. He’s a big kid, durable, I’ve heard people compare his size to Brian McCann. However, similar to McCann, insiders also speculate he may need to one day move off his position. He has played 19 of his 242 games at first base, though for now he is looking locked in behind the plate.

Interested teams took note of Plawecki this past spring, while he was in big-league camp. The A’s, Cubs, D-Backs and Mariners watched a lot of him and d’Arnaud, according to people who work with those organizations.

The Mets are the only team to have two catchers in MLB.com’s Top 100 Prospects. This is an interesting position to be in, since the two-way catcher is so rare in baseball these days. I assume the Mets intend to ignore interest and just let Plawecki play, especially given d’Arnaud’s slow start and recent success. But, it’s worth keeping this all in mind as trade talks bubble up over the next six months.




67 comments
Sequan Canady
Sequan Canady

The kid pulled his average up almost 50. Percentage points after his Vegas call up. Thats impressive. His game calling is solid despite a pass balls issue. d'Arnaud is a good player and he will prove it to you next season

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Sandy likes anyone making minimum wage.  

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

With all the concussions and other injuries TDA has suffered in relatively short time, having a dynamite back-up might not be bad idea for awhile. Ultimately a decision will have to be made since once Pawlecki is ready to be called up, neither can sit on bench. Truth is, if TDA has already had 4 concussions if there is a next one, it could be serious.

Brian P. Mangan
Brian P. Mangan

Well... moving them to another position is a non-starter.  They're catchers.  They have value as catchers.

I say trade one for a legitimate outfielders.  Plawecki and Nimmo for Joc Pederson? 

Until a trade happens, they can split time behind the dish.  100 for D'Arnaud, 61 for Plawecki, both fresh and healthy.  Remember D'Arnaud has always had injury issues.

jenkins
jenkins

Plawecki at C, Darno in RF. They need both bats in April. Darno is a suck catcher, but a good athlete.


Herrera

Lagares

Wright 

Duda

darno

Granderson

Plawecki

SS

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Sandy likes d"Arnaud and Plawecki. . .The only way you know how a player is going to do at the ML level is to put them on the field and find out. Action speaks louder than words.

zolio
zolio

Why not let them split time between the plate and another position?  I'm sure it's difficult for most players (except Craig Biggio) to do.  However, if the experiment works, then perhaps it'll save their legs and allow them to be more productive offensively for a longer period of time.  It would be somewhat analogous to using a starting rotation, as it would be immensely taxing for starting pitchers to throw every game.  Similarly, why force one of these guys to guarantee the breakdown of his knees within 5-7 years?  If either or neither of them can play another position, then this is a moot point of course.  


Notwithstanding the foregoing, if a trade for a fairly decent hitting shortstop (or any vaguely offensive force) is available, then no need to use such a "super platoon." 

Doubleday
Doubleday

TDA calls a good game and is very good at framing pitches. Some of the pitching success we have seen this year is due to TDA and how he's handled the staff. His past balls concern me, however. I have heard rumblings of moving him to LF to make room for Plawecki, whom I have never seen catch.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

As a catcher, Travis d'Arnaud is a total stiff. He can't catch, he can'block pitches in the dirt and he cannot throw anybody out stealing. Plus he's hitting .230. I would certainly give Plawecki a shot. As a matter of fact, Recker is a better CATCHER than d'Arnaud.

surfer1
surfer1

We should trade Plawecki and others for Kris Bryant

surfer1
surfer1

GRANDERSON BATTING 6th....wow

J Merritt
J Merritt

Why is nobody saying that we should trade Plawecki? D'Arnaud is doing just fine right now, and he has nowhere to go but up next season. 

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

Nice problem to have, too many catchers. d'Arnaud has always been rated the better overall catcher. Better bat and better behind the plate. But in watching the games this year, I would say d'Arnaud could use some improvement behind the plate. Plawecki has developed quickly, but has he passed d'Arnaud? There is no way one backs up the other, they are both starters. I am sure one gets traded at some point in the next year.

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

When is Plawecki Rule 5 eligible - that will have alot to say when he moved up 

mets1973
mets1973

Turn Plawecki into a first baseman. Duda is useless against lefties.

mrgee
mrgee

Yay, Sandy likes all the young players. We are all set. Yay!

exileinla
exileinla

So the Mets like Plawecki's RH bat.

And the Mets like d'Arnaud's RH bat.

And the Mets like Duda's LH bat, but he's having trouble vs LHP.

So why not plan on keeping 3 Cs in 2015:  d'Arnaud to start 100 games at C; Plawecki to start 40-50 games at C, and another 20-30 at 1B vs LHP in place of Duda; and Centeno to start 10-20 games to keep fresh, and to relieve d'Arnaud late in leads to avoid PB problems? 

And, all 3 are at MLB minimum, so Jeff Wilpon is happy too.

Eddie Bad-Man Cedeno
Eddie Bad-Man Cedeno

Alderson is slowly reaping results. I hope Alderson just makes blockbuster trades for what we need, we don't need another Granderson/Bay fiasco. Do whatever it takes to get Stanton I don't care. Just the fact that Degrom came out of no where shows that top prospects don't always live up to the hype. Thor, Plawecki, Montero, Flores along with Murphy for Stanton and Fernandez should do it. Am I crazy?

hashburry
hashburry

I would love to see how many times Matt reads what he writes.  So, he will need to move out from behind the plate like McCann.  The fact McCann has been catching for 10 years would suggest he hasn't had to move out from behind the dish.

I hope this is all to improve the value of one of these guys for a trade.  Catchers come and go in the bigs.  If they are both viewed as solid talent, Alderson should not hesitate to put one in a package for a quality player.

Joe Boko
Joe Boko

Hoping Mets hold on to both of them..I don't see a reason why both can't thrive together, be it at catcher or another position. Their work ethic is great and those type of players tend to succeed.

Blanca Recinos
Blanca Recinos

They want to move darneau because he has had 3 concussions. How about 3rd base, above many catchers have. Then move the Wright contract, if you can.

Steven Molello
Steven Molello

Good story Matt…this is an interesting story line with D'Arnaud's expectations high and Plawecki nipping at him from below. I think Travis has shown improvement with the bat and even though he has a good number of passed balls, he's cheating, trying to steal strikes and he'll learn to be less reckless doing that. This is a challenge for Mets management as one will certainly be traded in the next year.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Just want to say that d'Arnaud is good working with the pitchers and catching the ball but throwing to the bases....not too good. And, a .237 batting average is nothing to brag about.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

You want to turn a guy who projects to be a .300 hitter capable of driving in close to 100 runs into a platoon player who plays once or twice a week? I'd rather trade him so atleast we get our full value out of him.

matt greco
matt greco

@hashburry he doesn't read it.  he just hurriedly types it in and then hits submit without reading it even once...if he even took a single glance at any of his crap before hitting submit, he'd catch the majority of the nonsensical errors there are on this blog.


then again, maybe he really is just that stupid...

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

@Steven Molello no I think you see both of them in the lineup. 2015 is looking to be shaping up into another year of rebuilding and managing finances. 

hashburry
hashburry

@MetsFan1962 His average has improved since AAA, and you can't discount his power, especially at Citi.  I agree the throwing is a major issue.  I can't see how he improves that.  With speed coming into vogue again, base runners are going to run all over d'Arnaud.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@MetsFan1962  A .237 is nothing to brag about, but he's been a much different hitter since he's recall from Vegas. He's also provided some much needed power.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@MetsFan1962 I can't hate on what d'Arnaud has brought to this team since he was recalled from his latest stint in the minors.  His approach and quality of at-bats are night and day compared to what he looked like initially.

And, if you remember, he was actually lauded for his defense early on.

That said, it's not too crazy for me to believe that he'll put it all together soon enough - hopefully 2015.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Brian P. Mangan His "pitch framing", if that's even a thing, has been responsible for all the past balls he's allowed.  A catchers first responsibility is CATCHING the ball.  This otherwise obvious fact seems lost on the young man.  A catcher needs to square up to a pitch to keep it in front of him.  Not try to grab something off the plate and pull it back.  "Pitch framing" is a joke and little more than a bad habit that goes against basic catching philosophy.  

Blanca Recinos
Blanca Recinos

No you don't. He has zero HRS and 7 doubles all year with RISP!

gattsu
gattsu

@Pete Brilvitch @MetsFan1962 What was he hitting when he was recalled? Around .190? He boosted his average around 40 points which is pretty impressive. Imagine if our captain did the same. 

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

@Pete Brilvitch . .  I agree, Travis is doing better since the minors stint but how much better over .240 can he be? . . . Well, next season is not too far off for us to find out.

matt greco
matt greco

@Eddie Bad-Man Cedeno he doesn't need one, he just needs to look at how this franchise has operated for the past five years.  open your eyes.

nwmets
nwmets

@Blanca Recinos Actually, you totally do not get it. Whatever your opinion, WRIGHT STAYS WHERE HE IS! So let's channel the discussion toward what this team can realistically do to improve.

Doubleday
Doubleday

You would have traded Seaver after he went 11-11 in '74 too, I bet. The next year he won the Cy Young Award.

hashburry
hashburry

@Blanca Recinos Can you read?  Why are you posting some of his stats?  I am fully aware of DW's down year.  My point is you post at least 20 times a day bashing DW or suggesting to trade him.  Again, I think everyone gets your position. 

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

@Steven Molello @BerryBeltran too far out to think about it...at least 2015 is shaping up to be more of the same...not sure how they can keep selling us on this blue print but some people buy it. I'm not....I support the Mets no matter what because I am a die hard. However, they are a mess of an org. right now

Eddie Bad-Man Cedeno
Eddie Bad-Man Cedeno

Why not? You don't think he can be used to get another player? You don't easily pass up on an All Star. Ever heard of a three way trade?

Besides, Fernandez is coming off surgery, his trade value is down.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

@Pete Brilvitch @MetsFan1962 . . Agree. . .There are several Mets players beside Travis who could potentially hit .270-280 range but they tend to hover around .240. Will next year be different?  I surely hope so.

jaydhn
jaydhn

@Eddie Bad-Man Cedeno so they acquire murphy to try and flip him? that's not ideal for a player like stanton. they can get whatever they want for stanton.