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Sandy and Terry comment on Friday’s controversial play at home

According to multiple reports, Sandy Alderson was cursing and outraged in the clubhouse after Friday night’s loss to the Marlins, which featured two controversial plays at home plate.

Marlins left fielder Marcell Ozuna made an incredible throw to get Kirk Nieuwenhuis trying to tie the game in the ninth inning, which was close, but seemingly ruled correctly >> Watch Here.

However, in the eighth inning, Ozuna threw out David Wright at home, who was out by a few yards. However, Terry Collins challenged the play, saying Saltalamacchia had not provided a required lane for Wright to slide. The call was not over-ruled.

Alderson is chairman of the committee that helped create the blocking-the-plate rule enacted by Major League Baseball this season.

“I can’t really comment on the plays tonight because it would compromise my league-wide position as chairman of the playing-rules committee,” Alderson said. However, “I do have a couple of thoughts as general manager of the Mets that I can’t really share tonight,” he said with a hint of sarcasm.

Collins acknowledged that in previous seasons, Wright would have been out by a mile.

“Yeah, he was out, the replay showed he was out,” Collins said. “But, rules are rules, that’s why once in a while you’ve got to go challenge them. … You don’t ever get an explanation of what they saw or why they ruled it and the umpires are as confused as anybody. As I told them, ‘We’ve had two of those plays reversed and now how come we’re not reversing them?’ And they had no explanation. They just said it’s a constant discussion with them, too.”




76 comments
eric88
eric88

On Kirks slide, all I hear is about the great throw and it was. However, Kirk's slide sucked. If he slide into the plate he is probably safe because he beat the throw, but he slide beyond and away from the plate. David slide was just as bad, but the ball beat him clearly.

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

mets lose because they tried to tie and not try for the win - sure 99% of the time he scores on that play - but that's what u get for not trying to win

Mikey J
Mikey J

Honestly I didn't see a problem with either play. Ozuna made two spectacular throws. I say hats off to him and just remember to hold the runner when its hit towards Ozuna next time. Salty's foot was on the line, yes, but he gave a lane. If Sandy has that big a problem with it he should maybe spend a little money on some players that can score runs.

JasonMiles
JasonMiles

If they would score some freakin runs maybe they wouldn't have to argue calls like this

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

2 things: Remove this dumb rule and knock the damn catcher over if he IS blocking home plate (or slide into him at least).  You are allowed to do that, right?

Seth Opitz
Seth Opitz

It was the right call and should be the right call.  You have to challenge because there has been so much confusion and they have gotten the call wrong in that same situation before on reviews.  They were both great throws by Ozuma and both situations where the runner should have been going.  Its just a situation where we got beat twice in a row.  The bigger issue is, as usual, all of the other runners that didn't score.  The Mets had 11 hits in this game.......

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

Hey Sandy you moron, what was the Marlin catcher suppose to do? The throw was perfect. Should he have moved his legs out of position so he can catch it on the backhand like Keith said just to appease your dumb politically-correct moronic rule? Throw an F-bomb at Teufel. That is where your anger should be pointed towards. Keith was talking about YOU when he said keep the lawyers out of the game.

lholztrio
lholztrio

The sooner ALDERSON IS FIRED the sooner we can point this team in the right direction.  The rest of the dominoes must go also, like Collins, Warthen, Teufel, Geren, etc.  They are all losers.

Frank Garza
Frank Garza

Instead of worrying about a play at the plate, Sandy and TC should be more concerned about the LACK of offense on this team.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Ozuna could not have played that ball more perfectly.  He got a 3 or 4 step running start and fired an on the fly strike home.  A faster runner beats it. Nieuwenheis is pretty average to below average at everything, including foot speed, so you get what you get.  That's why you sign free agents. If - hypothetically - it's Puig or Ellsbury running it's possibly a happy recap, with career minor leaguers it's off to the loser's lounge.  

lindro88
lindro88

Was watching the Marlins broadcast last night. The broadcast team, much like our very own had nothing but good things to say about TC. They said it's known around the league that no manager gets more out of less, than Terry Collins. I'm not a Collins fan, but it is interesting to see how many people around the game think he's doing a good job, based on the talent he has to work with.

Daniel J. Laflin
Daniel J. Laflin

As to wright... unless he was forced to go home he was not out..he could have gone back then toward 3B of course creating a run down but that then can create a situation where a bad throw could have allowed him in... At the least slide right into catcher... and if catcher drops ball.. Need be aggressive towards opposing catchers

hashburry
hashburry

TC doesn't even understand the home plate rule.

Daniel J. Laflin
Daniel J. Laflin

Catchers who stradle the lane...players should go right into... a few times getting sore ribs and bruises and the catchers will be less inclined to take over the lane.. As to the one with the great OF throw...catcher was blocking the lane BEFORE he had the ball in hand..I think thats illegal...catchers cant block lane until have the ball in hand.. the catcher was on top of lane and plate without ball..

Sandy actually cares if the Mets win or lose? That's news to me!

sayhey24
sayhey24

In Wrights case, the catcher had the ball at least 15 feet before Wright arrived. On that point alone, it would be impossible to charge the catcher with blocking the plate to keep Wright from scoring before the ball arrived. Even our SNY guys thought this. In regards to the 2nd call, the catcher gave a clear lane, but it was a terrible slide by Kirk. We have to stop making excuses for poor decisions, coaching and lack of talent. If we want to win wholesale changes are needed.

legs3
legs3

When you are a bad team these things will always go against you.  How many opportunities did the Mets have with men on base to win that game?  They can't drive in runs if they used 2 bats each.  The are a horrible situational hitting team and Sandy will do nothing to improve it.  It is what it is so curse and swear all you want Sandy but you created this dysfunctional cast of players .

Should be mad at his players and his manager.  Both times the catcher was blocking the plate, and both times the runner went around him. They are playing like little girls.  Take out a catcher who's blocking the plate a couple of times, and even if the call goes against you, the practice will stop

nykjw2
nykjw2

Glad to see Sandy drop the F-bomb in frustration. Up to now he's come across as a placid, indifferent beauracratic corporate guy who finds running the Mets a mildly amusing diversion from his commissioner ambitions. 

ken1010
ken1010

Met players should be taught to slide straight at the plate.  

It the catchers foot is there, they hit it and let the umpires sort that out. 

Kirk sliding around the plate to go around the foot is why he was out.

Adrian Cervantes
Adrian Cervantes

Hey Sandy that's how us Mets fans feel when your incompetent manager benches Flores and Lagares regularly!!!

1harris1
1harris1

"I can't really comment on the plays fonight because it would compromise my league-wide position as chairman of the playing- rules committee".

What a clown this guy is. Why can't you grace us with your brilliant insight on the subject, Sandy?

For a change, go hunt for some talent.

Frank Tangorra
Frank Tangorra

I have the answer. Sandy look in the mirror!!!!!

Pauly Pins
Pauly Pins

maybe they should hit in the first 7 innings then haa excuses

Vahid Bacchus
Vahid Bacchus

Kirk should have ran that pos marlins catcher over

fatherflot
fatherflot

Question:  what would Sandy Alderson cursing actually sound like?

Brian McCarthy
Brian McCarthy

Crazy idea.Yes we need bats, but how about going after David Price.Wow

D
D

Sandy, that kind of emotion is unacceptable. How dare you display a morsel of passion.

Brian McCarthy
Brian McCarthy

Kirk should of hit the catcher.Force them to call it.Plus for someone trying to stay in majors, not to much of a try.And Tim T. Should be fired after sending Wright.Wake up

Charlie Hangley
Charlie Hangley

Don't what Kirk was yelling about.  He never touched the plate and he knew it.

mjkru10
mjkru10

So...Sandy had the same reaction Mets fans have when watching the team he built.

kranepool
kranepool

Up to last year, baseball was the only sport in which a blow to the head with a forearm or shoulder was considered legal. You can't do it in football, or hockey and those are contact sports. The simple fix here would have been to take that action out of the sport. You can run into the catcher, you just can't knock him senseless with a blow to the head, deliberate or not. 

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

Just get rid of the rule. Catchers get hurt. That's life.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

I was hoping they wouldn't reverse it for the good of the game. Sandy should be whining at Teufel, not the umpires. As soon as the ball was hit, I shouted don't send Wright, Ozuna has a great arm. But Sandy complains about a rule where David is out by 20 feet. Like Keith said, lawyers don't belong in the game.

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

Complainig about the rules is fine in that it points the absurdity of it currently. This noise overshadows the two outstanding throws by Osuna. The first a gift with some questionable 3rd base coaching by Tim T. on DW and sloppy baseball in the 7th and the last was a great play.

Hey, we lost, but TC remembered who Campbell was, DW had a nice double, DiceK was solid and we get to see deGrom school the Marlins this afternoon. It is time for his first W.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@Seth Opitz  I was hoping the Mets would lose the call because it was the right thing like you said.

@cleonsvan you are right.  Teufel is the worst third base coach in baseball.  he was terrible last year too.  He was not a bad manager at Binghamton bur cannot compare with the job Bachman has does in Las Vegas.  When TC is out around Sept 1 teufel will serve as interim so that cheap Wilpons will not have to pay Wally until the spring.  Alderson will be kicked upstairs to the league office so he can ruin the rest of baseball the way he has done with the Mets.  The inmates are running the asylum.  Does anyone wonder why interest and attendance at games is sinking faster than the Titanic?l




Dave Kaye
Dave Kaye

More like when the Wilpons are gone. Sandy made some possible good moves that can help,long term, but is putting together the ML roster he's failed more than been successful. However even with another gm things won't change as long as the Wilpons have the team. Most players won't take a paycut unless they value WS more. In that case Mets are out. If it's about getting paid as much as you can get well Mets are out again.

Even trades are tough if the Wilpons won't add to payroll.

I fail to see your issue,with Warthen. Pitching isn't an issue. Each game Mets have a shot to win because of their rotation. Wheeler is having his ups and downs,but that's more of a case of a young pitcher still learning, but I,see people bitching about Warthen and it lacks any logic.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@Joe Wenzel  Yup well said. He is a corporate lawyer living in a bubble that truly knows nothing about the game. Just like his hunting for strikes. A lot like our politicians.

personman
personman

@Macacawitz I get what you're saying, but Nieuwenhuis has decent speed.


I feel like the blame is getting shifted too much here.


Blame Chris Young.  Always blame Chris Young.

mi
mi

@lindro88 its not all terry, this team is one of the worst in the league.. but the fact still stands when they do play well he manages poorly

jonlga
jonlga

Honestly I do t care who manages. But this team has lost an ace pitcher, another starter, a closer and two outfielders. Our catchers are hitting below .200, one outfielder is horrid, our bullpen has lost leads too many times and we still need a shortstop. Would anyone be able to win with this?

lindro88
lindro88

I don't think he really lost any sleep over the loss. I guess he has to give the illusion these games upset him once in a while

sayhey24
sayhey24

I could not agree more. Sandy should be more upset about his decisions than MLBs.

sayhey24
sayhey24

Tampa is looking for young, offensive talent. We have none to offer.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Brian McCarthy Because the one thing we need with two guys injured maybe coming back plus Synd and Montero ... starting pitching 

Matt Drucker
Matt Drucker

If Kirk hit the catcher, I'm sure the Terry and Sandy would apologize to them and let them punish Kirk by hitting him with a pitch. The mets are always so focused on not making other teams mad. This even goes back when they wanted Reyes to tone down after a hit.