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Sandy Alderson’s outfield will largely be determined by offense

Curtis Granderson, Chris Young, Juan Lagares and Eric Young Jr. will compete for the starting outfield, which will mostly be determined by who hits best in spring training, Sandy Alderson told WFAN in Tuesday.

According to Alderson, Chris Young was only promised at bats, he was never promised playing time at a specific position.

That said, center field will likely come down to him or Lagares, with Lagares getting the spring’s first official start.

Granderson will start in either left or right field, “He wasn’t signed to be a center fielder,” Alderson said.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

If choosing between these four, my hunch is Eric Young will end up on the bench, at least to open the year. The Mets keep talking about Chris Young as a potential 20-home run guy. If they see him that way, and they’re giving him $7 million, how do they not get him as much playing time as possible? If he plays well, and the team struggles, he could be this year’s Marlon Byrd and could be traded later in the summer. If he rides the pine, that becomes less likely.

So, my early bet is Granderson in left, Chris Young in right, Lagares in center. But, that can easily change by May or if they can sign Nelson Cruz, though that now seems unlikely…




124 comments
anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

I think Ey in LF, and Grandy and Chris Young in the other 2 spots, especially if Ike is here playing 1b.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller

I believe the best situation would be EY at second, Murph at first, Lagares in Center, Grandy in left and CY in right and trade duda and davis for a fully loaded soda machine for the clubhouse because they are BUMS!!

Magnus Löfdahl
Magnus Löfdahl

My only wish is that Lagares will be the one to play centerfield. A young guy showing so much capacity in defence should get ALL the chances to prove him self in other areas as well! I'm pretty sure that he will be much better behind the bat this season. I see no reason to put our money on players that have already reached their peaks!

Chris 'Rufio' Hammann
Chris 'Rufio' Hammann

I can live with tejada if we sign Cruz. His offense is enough to win some games for us. And tejada is serviceable and batting 8th. Why spend 10-12 on Drew when we can spend a little more for an established power hitter. Remember that post season he had. Just my two cents but I'd spend the money on Cruz. Sucks we signed young. Bc if we did get Cruz it would be grandy young Cruz

Steven Bellafiore
Steven Bellafiore

I am surprised Nelson Cruz is even being mentioned. There's 0 % chance as we have 4 outfielders for 3 spots already. You can argue Cruz vs Granderson, in terms of who should have been signed, but Granderson as a lefty hitting of, and NY proven as well, is a better fit for the team. Besides do we really want 2 outfielders over 33 sighned to long term contracts? In Chris Young the team acquires a player that has a ton of talent, who has had previous NL success,

On a 1 year deal. I honestly believe seattle is signing cruz, they just dont want to negotiate aganst themselves.

Joseph Baffi
Joseph Baffi

everybody saying young hit 2,20 grandy 2.30 I say when the mets sign a 300 hitter they hit 200 like bay when they get a 200 hitter like byrd well you know. so Anderson taking a different approach get the worse hitting free agents and maybe we get 3 /300 hitters out of it lol

Joseph Baffi
Joseph Baffi

ill take ey and his 50 sb we need speed at top of lu and when ey got on god things happen

eric88
eric88

Offense, what offense? These are the batting average including Duda for the 5 outfielders last year: .235-.245-.200-.223.245, yuck!

Can we please have at least 1 .250 hitter this year! Add that to IKE and Tejada .202, .210. Man are we in trouble! Offense, Sandy that's not funny.

Mike DeRosa
Mike DeRosa

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet. 


Please, Sandy... Tell us something we don't know.

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

You forgot one player TC has made a point of telling us that will get another look in the OF & that is the amazing Lucas Duda. All joking aside, the only way that the Mets can live with Legares in CF as the everyday guy is if we add Drew. The bottom line is that Legares cannot hit major league pitching & if we have Tejada at SS everyday, the Mets cannot afford to have another easy out in the lineup. I know everyone is enamored with Legares' glove, but baseball isn't a one-dimensional sport. This team isn't in the position to put a one-dimensional player out there every day. Now, if Alderson puts his (or the Wilpon's) money where his mouth is & signs Drew to a 2-3 year deal, we could afford to have Legares out there as the starter. If Alderson pulls the trigger on Cruz, which would be better than Drew, the argument becomes moot, but the team needs another bat in this lineup. Nevertheless, the key cog in the offensive wheel for the Mets is Travis d'Arnaud. If he hits like he is supposed to, it makes Legares' in CF even more appealing, with Granderson & Young on each side of him. However, as I said throughout this comment & in previous comments, we need one more bat, preferably a RH bat (Drew or Cruz) to make this lineup imposing & provide enough runs to support what should be a very good rotation. The 2014 lineup is already better than anything we had in 2012-2013, but it is short just 1 bat; the talk needs to stop & Alderson needs to make something happen.

James Solomon
James Solomon

I have no interest in Nelson Cruz.  Take him out of Texas into Citi will significantly downgrade his hitting, plus his defense sucks. I hope they dont sign him.

eric88
eric88

Nonsense, with TC back you know he will play a different lineup everyday. All of  this other stuff is just chatter.

mets2014
mets2014

For those of you that haven't been paying attention this competition is strictly offense based so Don't bother bringing up defense...alderson already stated that the outfielders are all capable defenders...it's the guys that hit the ball that will be rewarded with playing time...end of story and may the best players win...please stop with the bashing of the players...i never saw so many fans go against their own like this bunch...support the team

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

The Chris Young signing was a major head-scratcher. Lots of money for a guy who just had a terrible season. Sandy is obviously going for another Marlon Byrd lightning-in-a-bottle thing. I would have passed on Young and made a stronger effort for Nelson Cruz, a more proven commodity.

upstater
upstater

Funny I thought the manager made these decisions.

slainte2
slainte2

I would divide the season into three.  First third (April/May), I have CY in RF, Legares in CF, and Granderson in LF every day, full time starters.  The platoon at first (don't let me see Davis ever start a game against LHP, he has proven he can't hit them); Murphy, Drew, Wright.  I start TdA two out of every three games.  I don't mess with them, no TC meddling ... just let them play, let's see what they can do.


I have Flores playing 1B every day, Duda, MDD, and Puello in OF every day in AAA.  Steady ABs, and give Flores 50 games, everyday at 1B.


By end of May, evaluate ... does Legares and/or CY need a platoon partner?  Hopefully MDD will be ready, or give EYJR shot at that point.  If the platoon at 1B is failing, pull plug, and give Flores a shot at every day 1B ... at least he will have had 50 games more experience at the position by then.

Whatever changes are made, stick with new group thru June/July, give those guys a fair shot at making it.

Final third of season will mix and match after the trades ... i expect Murphy to be gone, maybe CY too, along with Colon, Gee or Neise....




Paul Kersey
Paul Kersey

IMHO, the Mets offensive production from the 3 OF spots could be highly "offensive" but not in a good way. I see terrible cumulative OBP, BA, and K numbers.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

Saying that Chris Young will hit 20 home runs repeatedly wont result in his hitting 20 home runs next season.

slainte2
slainte2

Legares in CF makes our pitchers better

Adam Myers
Adam Myers

If it was up to me i'd have Eric Young Jr. in left we need his hustle, and speed. Lagares is great defensively and will be great as the center fielder he can work on his hitting. Lastly Granderson in right field he's a great hitter 25+ Home runs obviously an everyday player!

collegept9
collegept9

The Mets kissed a lot of frogs in the OF last year. Cowgill. Valdespin. Captain Kirk. Rick Ankiel. Lots of Duda in LF. Just having these guys nowhere near the OF will help. Granderson, Lagares, and the Youngs getting 90% of the playing time could be a major improvement over last year, even without Byrd.

Zach Ripple
Zach Ripple

My bet is they give Granderson a full-time spot, with the other 3 each getting something like 120 games. Each have flaws, but each also have strengths. These things usually work themselves out, just look at the Dodgers.

eric88
eric88

After Wright and Murphy, The next highest BA in the starting lineup is .245, then it drops to a .223 hitter. The other 4 hit under.210 last year. That makes this the worst opening day BA lineup in MLB in 47 years!!!

Most MLB teams don't have ONE .210 Hitter!!

dabo
dabo

@Chris 'Rufio' Hammann  Cruz is terrible!  Poor defender and a low average home run hitter.  He is better than Duda thats it.  


metstastic
metstastic

I don't think Cruz was ever considered. Look at who Sandy signed.. former CFers. He prefers defensive players. Cruz can't field.

metstastic
metstastic

You can't just look at low average in a vacuum. The low average is ok if they are plus in another area.. ie.. speed or power. Bay turned into a 200 singles hitter which is a huge problem.

metstastic
metstastic

Like i said previously. You can't just look at low average in a vacuum. The low average is ok if they are plus in another area.. ie.. speed or power. Bay turned into a 200 singles hitter which is a huge problem.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@eric88   

Can we please have at least 1 .250 hitter this year!     

No.  Your request has been denied.  

In fact we've added Curtis Granderson whose  BA. the last two years was  .229 and .232,   while Chris Young's BA. the last two years was  .200  and .231 Sandy's not a big fan of BA,  he prefers home runs.

metstastic
metstastic

I don't know who this Legares is, but Lagaras has shown flashes of being a capable hitter.

Duda is not getting a "look in the OF." I bet it is a more last resort type of thing. He might come in as a double switch when pinch hitting or to give someone a day off.

eric88
eric88

@Kevin Joseph Patrick  Everybody will play including Brown. There are no starters with TC. He likes to over manage and put a different lineup everyday.

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

Let me guess... Wally Bachman would've been better, right? Collins has done pretty damn good with what he has been given. I agree with you that a lineup that changes every other day is a huge problem, but until this year, Collins has only had two quality major league hitters in Wright & Murphy. Alderson needs to lock up Drew & with that the Mets will have starting-quality players at every position. The word "platoon" needs to be removed from the vocabulary of every Mets fan & not a single one should be utilized by Collins. Sticking with players at their position & lineup number will allow for comfortability & consistency. Players not good enough to make the cut (Duda, Tejada) need to either be sent packing or sent to AAA (where they belong), and Collins shouldn't worry about giving them ABs to stay ready. With the addition of Drew, it'll be very clear who the starters are & who the bench players are.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@eric88   

If you are a below average major league player,  you shouldn't be in the lineup all the time.  Collins left Wright and Murphy in all of the time.  

Who else deserved to be in the lineup everyday ?

hrvwlzthor
hrvwlzthor

@Kenneth Meltsner  This guy averages 23 HRs when he gets 500 ABs and he has 25 SB speed and he's only 30. This guy could turn out to be a steal at 7 million if he gets his ABs.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@upstater Just thinking the same thing while reading this article. Where is the Manager and his views/opinions??????

hrvwlzthor
hrvwlzthor

@Paul Kersey  So what is their HR, RBI, and RUNS numbers gonna be? These numbers which are the most important on winning teams. Who cares what they hit if they're gonna hit 20 and 30 HR's and drive in 90 or 80 RBI

metstastic
metstastic

That's right. If you have a low average, you need plus power.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@hrvwlzthor @Kenneth Meltsner  

I suppose anything is possible,  but trying to catch lightning in a bottle isn't a strategy for building a successful team.

He's more likely to put up numbers similar to last year in Arizona, which is a hitters ballpark.

upstater
upstater

@Michael Stewart Torre, LaRussa and other top managers would never have stood for this ... and their GMs wouldn't have tried. Makes the rehiring of Collins despite his mediocre record clear.

metstastic
metstastic

Seriously, there is a bit of an over obsession with batting average.

rico
rico

@mikerolli  yeah but he was OUR FLUKE.  29 teams didn't sign him, Sandy did.


Byrd really wanted to return to the METS but was blown away by a crazy contract offer.



metstastic
metstastic

It is a strategy to fill at a team. You can have one reclamation project. Just not too many.

metstastic
metstastic

You don't have to act like a raving lunatic to be an effective manager. It might make for good TV, but that's about it.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@upstater @Michael StewartWe knew this back when Collins was first hired.  The man realizes that he would never get a chance of being a Major League manager unless he became a total jellyfish.  Collins lets the front office walk all over him, and he is afraid of what his players think of him.  Heck, how many times did he get tossed by umpires arguing a bad call last year?  Once?

collegept9
collegept9

He was very good May through July. Hopefully Granderson is solid all year.