Sandy Alderson says Mets are making progress

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Sandy Alderson told MLB.com that while he would’ve liked to have won more games the last three years, his priority was to improve his farm system, get younger at the Major League level and a more flexible payroll-wise (MLB.com, May 31).

Sandy Alderson scrum“Have we been successful in that regard? If you phrase it that way, we’ve definitely made progress,” Alderson said, in regards to rating his time as GM of the Mets. “We’ve acquired more talent. We have more payroll flexibility. Now’s the time to turn the corner and what allows us to turn the corner is eventually our young talent. We’re just about at that juncture.”

My most recent request to interview Alderson was turned down by the Mets. I planned to only really talk with him about his comments connecting revenue and spending. They said I may be able to connect with him later this summer, at which point I expect to have a lot more things to ask anyway…

For instance, now that I’ve read his interview with MLB.com, I wonder how Alderson defines success in baseball? I know the plan, but what is the goal? Also, what does he feel is his biggest responsibility to Mets fans? How does that correlate with spending on payroll? Is this what you expected from 2014, which was the year the front office pointed to as a time that things would turn around? There’s been a lot of talk about his ‘plan,’ but does he have a Plan B? Is it wise to bank so heavily on young pitching, given the rise in Tommy John surgery? Is there a certain emotional and psychological profile you look for when acquiring a player, especially in New York? Or, is it all talent, value and statistically based?




155 comments
Dante Puzzuoli
Dante Puzzuoli

Mets have been playing a real shitty team... So their making progress? Na. This guy lies and lies and lies and as soon as we start losing again it will be apparent that WE NEED MORE TALENT

Elliot Martinez
Elliot Martinez

He also said we could win 90 games. Don't believe everything you hear. SELL THE DAMN TEAM WILPONS!!!

Rich Kluender
Rich Kluender

When was the last time the Mets were even in the playoffs compared to these Teams?.

Vince Tong
Vince Tong

sandy ..progress 2nd from bottom. fred and son..u deserve a raise...bring more fans and u can get 1!

dgdg
dgdg

...meaning they may not finish in last place...

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Except for pitchers, players brought up from the minors show no prospect of being major league talent. Sandy must be talking from the side of his mouth. His definition of talent is the price is right and the uniform fits....haven't seen a potential contact hitter or power bat. Sandy, where are you hiding the so-called talent you talk about?. Put up or shut up.

ken1010
ken1010

Matt, those are good questions.  No wonder he wouldn't talk to you.  It seems like he just wants to put his P.R. spin out there and get it reported verbatim.  Can't blame him I guess.  He's just trying to make the case that he has done a good job, whether that's true or not.

Mark Closson
Mark Closson

In related news, Alderson recently diagnosed as legally blind

William Ost
William Ost

What progress. This team is at the bottom of a bad division. How is that progress?

Darrell Smith
Darrell Smith

My Question to him would be.....Why did you sign Chris Young when you could have resigned Marvin Bird ?.


eric88
eric88

Flexible payroll wise means were down to 78 million this year and were able to go even lower again next year for the 6th year in a row.

LVMetFan
LVMetFan

The biggest problem about the Mets is being in the shadow of the Yankees, especially since 1996. Either they hype the prospects or sign free agents that under achieve. It's a no win situation.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

I'm still just figuring out this concept of "payroll flexibility".  I understand it's less emphasis on long term contracts, but how does this seem "flexible" if the ownership is willing to spend less after the bad contracts expire.  According to Cots Baseball Contracts, in 2011 the Mets had a payroll of $142,797,166.  This year Cots reports the Mets have a team payroll of $ 84,951,365.  By rough math, that would mean that after acquiring Colon, Granderson, and C Young, the Mets should have about $57,700,00 worth of "flexible payroll" to play with.  But if the ownership is not willing to spend any of it, how does make it "flexible"?

cyjabeli
cyjabeli

I agree, they have made progress. Not enough to please the masses though....

Doubleday
Doubleday

I think Sandy Alderson is his own worst enemy.  He talks too much.

A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

Well the pitching is/has worked out...fromfarm to bigs..Position players,he's greatly fell short on..

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

Last year, Alderson said that the Mets were reaching the end of "Phase 1". PHASE 1!! What the hell is phase 2?? lol

supert
supert

@Victor Triguero Well maybe if you would bring the family out to citifield and spend money and not boo the team you would be in Sandy's good graces.

Starz31
Starz31

@MetsFan1962 the minor leagues. The Mets are an organization, not just a ML team. He's right that the organization is much improved versus 5 years ago. But it's semantics. There is no new young offensive talent, although I do still believe in TdA, despite many here. He's a rookie, needs to play more. 

Starz31
Starz31

@Darrell Smith That is not the question I would ask him. I would ask him why he didn't sign Cruz instead. Nelson Cruz >>>>>> Marlon Byrd. 

Marlon Byrd should not be on this team nor should anyone be losing sleep over the fact that Marlon Byrd is not on this team. 

But for your question...simple. Marlon Byrd is not worth 2 years. 

04doctored14
04doctored14

Players who excel here are shown the door ( i.e. Reyes, Dickey, Byrd, Hawkins)--"too expensive"--better to throw away far greater monies on this yrs. free agent trifecta of Colon, Granderson and C. Young inaddition to earlier FA  gems such as F. Francisco, Rauch and Marcum.

cyjabeli
cyjabeli

@Darrell Smith I think he wanted to sign Byrd....Even you think 16 million for two years is too much. Terry got blood out of a stone with Byrd.

Starz31
Starz31

@flmetsfan Playing devil's advocate, it simply allows you future flexibility when you;re younger players develop and then become more costly. By not being bogged down in bad long term contracts, you can then, theoretically, afford to re-sign your own developed talent. 

eric88
eric88

That was before they dumped Ike, Farns, Valverde etc. 78 million.

xplr
xplr

@flmetsfan Payroll flexibility is a euphemism for cutting payroll. There is no flexibility, especially when you consider that Wright and Granderson occupy 40% of our payroll for the next 4 years. 

xplr
xplr

@cyjabeli The only progress they have made is to cut payroll to the bone.

eric88
eric88

No. , he lies to much!!

Starz31
Starz31

@A Pocono View_ They take longer to develop. We'll see what happens with his actual draftees when they get old enough. That's a phrase needing context. 

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@718kidd  What would Omar do now that he can't spend?

John Matesic
John Matesic

@718kidd I agree, most of this "young talent" that's worth anything was drafted by Omar.  Omar doesn't get enough respect from Met's fans...yeah he made bad moves towards the end, but he was just scrambling to keep his job.

Starz31
Starz31

@04doctored14 Byrd was traded as he should have been. Hawkins should have been resigned. 

Starz31
Starz31

@04doctored14 Reyes should have been traded. They didn't want to sign him, they knew they weren't going to sign him, and they should've have signed him for more than 5 years, but they should have traded him while his value was high and got something, ANYTHING, in return for him. 

Starz31
Starz31

@04doctored14 You make that Dickey trade every day of the week. Even though TdA hasn't lived up to expectations, yet, he and Thor are well worth that deal. Plus, TdA is still just a rookie and has excelled at every minor league level he's played at. 

@04doctored14 Dickey was traded at just the right time for highly touted young talent - no problem there.  Byrd and Hawkins were two old guys who did a good job but clearly not jobs anyone really know they could repeat - and I think we have some potential new talent coming for Byrd - no problem there.  Reyes - quite a different story - an elite player for the Mets with admittedly not insignificant injury issues - the man should have been a Met for life given his talent, position (in the field and batting order - yet to be replaced) and personality and ticket selling ability. - It was an example of the Mets being cheap.

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

He gets a bonus whenever he uses the phrase flexible payroll

ken1010
ken1010

@ifti99 @flmetsfan There is only flexibility if they can go back up to $120m if the right opportunity came along.  It came along in the person of Choo, a perfect fit for leadoff and left field, and they passed on it because it would have required a 7-year contract.  

It's not just the price per year that's holding them back, but the unwillingness to sign two or three more David Wright level contracts, which is what it would take for them to get to be a perennial playoff contender.

@ifti99 @cyjabeli not true.  They have a group of desirable young arms.  And despite the Tommy John threat, I think that is still the way to go.  They need to trade one or two at the end of the season with whatever package of big league and minor league position talent they need to to secure a top 10 major league hitter.

Starz31
Starz31

@eric88 He doesn't actually lie. He speaks like a lawyer and says general statements. 

Starz31
Starz31

@John Matesic @718kidd Omar was good at scouting and identifying young talent. He was not good at signing veteran players, although he did well with Pedro, Beltran, Wagner, and Santana. But he also gave a completely unnecessary extension to Alou, Julio Franco, Ollie Perez, and signed Jason Bay. He was an ok GM. He should be a scout or work with the minor leagues. 

@John Matesic @718kidd Who drafted Montero, deGrom, traded for Wheeler, Black and Syndegard - not Omar.


I guess he gets credit however for Harvey, Niese and Gee


Someone correct me if I'm wrong

Casey Harden
Casey Harden

@John Matesic @718kidd  Seeing the results of drafts, takes time and with any young talent, it is never 100%. For every Matt Harvey there was a Mike Pelfrey or the untouchable prospect Fernando Martinez. The minor league system overall appears to have improved and be headed in the right direction. As far as the big league club, well that's a far different story. They need offensive talent, which they clearly lack. The players they're bringing up from the minor leagues have such limited offensive capabilities. Many of them were drafted by Omar. That said, it may be close to time to move on from Sandy.

heynow20
heynow20

And we are just now seing some major league ready talent from Omar's drafts many yrs later but you want to judge Alderson now? He's only been here since 2011...

Casey Harden
Casey Harden

@kingman76 @cyjabeli @Darrell Smith I don't think that was meant as a negative comment against Byrd. Let's face it though, when we signed Marlon Byrd last year, no one was jumping up and down saying that he would make any difference whatsoever. As it turned out, he most certainly did.

Starz31
Starz31

 @ifti99 @cyjabeli They have definitely made progress, but some fans refuse to accept any positivity from a team they apparently support. 

Casey Harden
Casey Harden

@718kidd @Pete Brilvitch Fernando Martinez and Mike Pelfrey were not exactly foundational pieces to the organization. Ike Davis is now gone, although he may still turn it around. What about Reese Havens? Hardly seemed to all work out.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@718kidd @Pete Brilvitch  You need to see how Sandy's drafts pan out - especially since his top picks were drafted out of high school. Too early to make a judgment on that front.

John Matesic
John Matesic

@heynow20 You obviously make your point to defend Alderson...tell me what has he done since he got here?  Our two best trading chips were Beltran and Dickey(another Omar diamond in the rough by the way).  From them he got Wheeler(BUM), D'Arnaud(Hope he works out, but appears to be a BUM), Syndergaurd we'll see, but no way to tell yet.


Our bullpen has been horrendous, he hired the stumbler and mumbler Collins over Melvin (who by the way has managed the A's to a league best record).  


Alderson is the worst...he road Billy Bean's coat tails, and now he is exposed for being a terrible baseball man.  

John Matesic
John Matesic

@Pete Brilvitch @718kidd They aren't Sandy's drafts either...they are Paul dDePodesta's...Sandy has made it clear DePodesta runs the talent scouting and minors.  I'd be completely happy if they promoted DePodesta and canned Sandy.

@John Matesic @heynow20 ON what planet is Wheeler a BUM???  They could trade him tomorrow for a front line position player to many many teams,.

Casey Harden
Casey Harden

@John Matesic @Casey Harden @718kidd @Pete Brilvitch No I didn't forget, my point was that not all youth works out as expected, and to say they almost all seemed to is a falsehood. Mejia is definitely a gem. I'd trade Murphy as he is overrated. His offense seems empty and he makes far too many boneheaded mistakes still. Like I said, I think it may be time to move on from Alderson. Even if that happened though, it may not make much difference if they're still restricted on what they can spend financially.

John Matesic
John Matesic

@Pete Brilvitch @John Matesic @718kidd Please explain how this is reaching? Pete, lets step away from the drafts and just talk free agency and trades...He spends about league average on bullpen but misses every year...The Beltran for Wheeler trade looks like a bust, trading Pagan looks bad, Hopefully Syndergaurd will pan otu but D'Arnaud looks bad, CHris YOUNG for $7mm, not picking up a shortstop via trade or free agency.  These are the tangilbe moves we can judge in real time and he's done very poorly.

Dave Kaye
Dave Kaye

@John Matesic @Pete Brilvitch @718kidd A bust? Wheeler is just approaching one full year in the majors. I'm amazed at how clueless some fans are. Not everyone dominates at first it takes a while. Its far, far too early to label Wheeler a bust same for Travis.

I always laugh when people say NY fans have the most knowledge. 95% have zero knowledge of the game

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@John Matesic @Pete Brilvitch @718kidd  Sandy has definitely failed with his bullpen additions, but Omar's (outside 2006) haven't been much better. In fact, the 2008 bullpen may have been worse than anything Sandy ever put together. Too early in my opinion to call the Beltran and Dicky trades, but they needed to happen. The one area that Omar did better was with free-agents. He's has more successes, primarily because he's had more money to work with. His failures have been more monumental for the same reason. CY has obviously been a disaster. I was OK with the idea of CY at the time, but though Sandy grossly overpaid.

John Matesic
John Matesic

@mets2death @John Matesic @Pete Brilvitch @718kidd AHhHHHHH c'mon!  Trust me that was the worst moment ever for me as a Met fan next to watching the Yankees beat us in 2000, BUT Beltran is not to fault there.  That was the sickest 12 to 6 curve i've ever seen, in such a ballsy spot to throw it.


I would kill to have Beltran in his Mets prime on the Mets again.  He is a top two outfielder in Mets history.  We'd be lucky to have anyone close to him on our team.