Pics from PSL: Wilmer Flores at SS, Ricciardi watching

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Wilmer Flores is fielding ground balls at shortstop today, after initially starting the morning at second. Of course, he was on the back field with other players vying for back-up roles, as Ruben Tejada and Omar Quintanilla stood at shortstop on a separate field with David Wright, Daniel Murphy and the starting squad…



It’s hard to judge if he can be a big-league, every-day shortstop based on groundballs off a fungo hit by a guy in his 70s…


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That said, he does look more confident in the field. He may or may not be more agile. It’s tough to say. But, again, his feet are more calm, he isn’t as jumpy as I remember from other springs, and he looks more locked in and ready, all of which are a step in the right direction…

J.P. Ricciardi was on hand and seemed to be mostly watching Flores, occasionally chatting with Wally Backman and Edgardo Alfonso, who were on hand to help, feed ground balls and provide feedback…


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113 comments
Joe Sedo
Joe Sedo

Good cause Tejada is a lost cause

adam
adam

He's a better player then Tejada. Period. It's not like Tejada is Ray Ordonez. I'm so sick  of this franchise keeping players who have Major League talent in the Minors because "There's no spot for them." Make a spot for them Sandy!!!! That's what you do with talent. No other franchise babies our young talent like the Mets. It's shocking considering our Major League talent is mediocre at best, and our attendance stinks. Braves, Rays, Cardinals, all let talent play immediately, regardless of age. And don't give me the Super 2 crap either Cerrone! If Manny Machado was on this team he'd still be in the  minors! Good thing we babied Matt Harvey, that really helped protect him from major injury. Wouldn't want to see him rushed and turn out like someone like Kershaw!!! Do me a favor Cerrone, when you finish taking pictures of David Wright, please explain to this fan base why we waste so much talent in the Minors compared to other franchises.

Robert C. Smith
Robert C. Smith

Mets force yet another quasi-prospect to play out of position instead of investing in proven talent.


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NY Diehard Sports Nuts
NY Diehard Sports Nuts

Would love to see Flores at ss this spring, and if he can show promise, start at SS @ Trip A. If Flores could field the position, his offense at SS would be a big advantage.

dabo
dabo

starter!!!!!!  

Daniel Batista
Daniel Batista

If Flores can play ss adequately, he should play everyday there. His bat is far more formidable then Tejeda's.

Brad Houser
Brad Houser

Look at Prado especially, I think those could be numbers Flores could put up. With that said he's not paying 3B with the Mets ever. So I think SS is kind of a last resort before they decide to trade him.

Steven Lennon
Steven Lennon

u need a slugger at 3rd base, i have faith in Murph at second, he turns over a nice double play..what we really need is for Tajada and Flores to bat 290

Dan Kahaner
Dan Kahaner

people saying he needs to start at short don't know what they're saying. while in a perfect world that would be awesome, the kid has 0 range. you can't just put a guy at the most important defensive position just to have him in the lineup. hopefully he can drop some lbs and develop some agility, that's the only way he'll ever play SS in the bigs. love the kid but I think it's a pipe dream.

Glenn Kaplan
Glenn Kaplan

needs to be the starting shortstop this yr

Rick L McNeill
Rick L McNeill

I'm hoping Flores wins the shortstop spot going into Opening Day. Plus, Flores dropped 14 pounds during the offseason which will aid him significantly in playing shortstop.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Lets get something straight and to the point. . . Flores cannot play SS with any fluency; So, why bother?. .  might as well try Duda at SS too.

amazagain
amazagain

Why isn't Wally the manager?

Mikey Jocks
Mikey Jocks

Mayb Flores could become like Miguel Cabrera. Great hitter but decent fielder

Mikey Jocks
Mikey Jocks

Mo Vaughn would b bettr than that lazy Tejada at this point

Alfred Whittle
Alfred Whittle

Instead of signing Drew, they will try Flores at SS...

Jimmy
Jimmy

Anyone here who insists that Wilmer Flores cannot play shortstop, please provide your credentials as a Major League scout, or a picture of you standing next to Alfonzo and Backman on the field. Otherwise, can you please wait to see him in an actual ST game to pass professional judgement?

We're not getting Drew or Diaz, and it looks doubtful we're trading for a SS any time soon. So it's basically Tejada, Quintanilla, or Flores.

Flores is the only option that doesn't make the Front Office look terrible for not addressing SS or First Base in the offseason, two holes that THEY deemed a priority. I'm not buying tickets if it's the same awful players from last year in those positions.

So please, let us hold onto a little hope for another couple weeks?

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

We have the biggest whiners of fans . Any single flaw is enough of a reason to trade someone . I can think of a guy with 0 range who I can see Flores being very similar to if not better ... Peralta . No range , hits , although he loves roids , still manages to find a job every year. If Flores can be just ok at the position then you have to take the chance . We aren't going anywhere with Tejada or Q .

Kevin Pitino
Kevin Pitino

he is good. With wright as are franchise player, flores deserves time there. He has become quicker in the offseason, so playing short shouldn't be a problem

Richard P. Kaiser
Richard P. Kaiser

if you are Flores it is your only shot to crack the big league team to beat out Tejada and Quintanilla at SS, he has stated he does not want to go back to the minors he has been there since he was 16 he is ready offensively I would take the occasional errors if he can drive in double the runs that Tejada does

eric88
eric88

You forget, Tejada has no speed, arm or range.

moeb
moeb

down vote

hrvwlzthor
hrvwlzthor

Do you people know that Flores was drafted as a SS and he spent his first few pro years as a SS? What did we see from Flores' def last year, that his foot speed wasn't good and he wasn't agile enough. So, the guy spent 2 months in Michigan in the offseason where he lost 14 lbs and improved his footwork and agility so can we just see a lil bit what he can do on the field before we crush him. If we can have Flores as our starting SS, I'd take that over Drew any day. This guy's offensive potential is way better than Drew ever will be.

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

If Davis is back in form and Flores can win the SS position, it's going to be an entertaining line up. We need Travis and Young to produce as well. We know what we're gonna get from Wright, Murphy, Granderson and EYJ. Looks to me half of this line up is stable and other half must be proven this year.

Mike
Mike

@Richard P. Kaiser  Who cares where he wants to go and it's not about the occasional error. He has very very very limited range and bad footwork. He'll negate whatever value he creates offensively by being a negative defensive WAR type player. 


Either get him to play 2nd base or trade him.

mpetr37349
mpetr37349

@hrvwlzthor

Flores was not drafted. Signed at 16 as an international free agent. I have seen him play short in the minors. It is not his position. He is a statue out there. He can start a game there once in a while . If he were to be a utility IF and play 1 game per week at ss it wouldn't be the that bad. He is a big dude. When this 1b mess get sorted out he should play there. 1b is his position imo.

Jimmy
Jimmy

How many years have you been a scout?

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Mike Have you seen him play short?  How can you say unequivocally he is an extreme negative defensive WAR type player at this stage in his physical development?  The guy has 20/80 potential, which is far superior to anything we have in organization at SS.  Any other position renders that output pedestrian or even below average, but at SS it makes you a premium player.  At 2B, at best he'll be as good a bat as Murphy and why replace a definite with a maybe? 

It's foolish not to stick him at SS until you're absolutely sure because the guy's bat is good only based on his place on the field. If he can't handle it, then fine, but you have to try with an open mind and give him a honest shot.  NOBODY thought Murphy could handle 2B until he did.

Flores changed his body after fat camp and they're giving him a look for a reason.  if you trust the pros to tell you he couldn't do it, trust the pros that are now taking a look at him there. 

Richard P. Kaiser
Richard P. Kaiser

@Mike @Richard P. Kaiser   Can't trade him, do you remember when we traded jeff kent because he wasn't great defensively, what did he end up doing .  Flores is only 22 and has a very high ceiling as he is still growing into his body.  he already has 20 hr and 100 rbi season in AAA . if he could give us .270 15 and 80 I would sign on in a hurry and the potential to be a 20 and 100 rbi guy at SS. he is only gonna get better defensively not worse.

eric88
eric88

@mpetr37349  Finally, someone got it right, Flores at !B for ten years. Get rid of the two big tackling dummies clogging his path.

charlie duck sauce
charlie duck sauce

@Jimmy Yeah, these guys are pretty hilarious. They just don't want him there because he doesn't fit their mold of what a SS is.

piazza4ada
piazza4ada

30/100 might be needed but exactly how many major league 1b's did that last year ...?

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@qualcomm :  I think, short of Ike becoming a hitter again, for Ike is the best glove at first, a platoon of Duda hitting against righties and Satin against lefties would give us the power {Duda} and Average {Satin} we need at first.  Plus give us a pretty good OBP.


I'm for looking at Flores at SS, though I'm not optimistic.  If neither Ike, nor Duda/Satin work out, moving Flores to First, or Murphy to First with Flores at Second. are two other options.  EY Jr. at second and Murphy at First is another option, opening up CF for Lagares.  Of course that would leave Flores on the bench or more likely in Las Vegas.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Donald Obrien I think Murphy's bat is negated at 1B, just like Flores' would be.  It's not special when he plays in a spot where 30/100 is needed.  I'd let Flores play short the whole camp and either he's ready or get him down to AAA and let him do the same thing there. Murphy learned second when everyone said it was impossible, why can't Flores be given the same post fat-camp chance at short?

Jimmy
Jimmy

You say the Mets wouldn't have moved Flores off of SS unless he didn't belong there. You realize this is the same management that put Duda in Right Field, right?

Two objective scouts who watched him hit in Winter Ball compare his bat to Edgardo Alfonzo. We're going to trade him, or send him to AAA, while Tejada starts at SS?! Have we lost our minds? If Flores can play even a remotely decent SS, he should be in the Mets lineup.

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@Mike   Trade Murphy????   Are you serious?  While you're at it, trade Wright.  Satin can play third.  


Improve the team by trading the second best player on the team.  I can't believe some of the comments.

Mike
Mike

@Richard P. Kaiser @Mike  He's not getting better defensively at SS. He can't play SS otherwise they would have never moved him from that position in the minor leagues. His range is shaky at 2nd base nevermind a position like SS which requires even more range than 2nd base. His offense will not negate his terrible defense at SS.


He may get better at 2nd but not by much. He still has bad footwork and poor range, similar to Daniel Murphy. 


Their best bet is to hope he can stick at 2nd, trade Murphy, or that he becomes a trade chip for a team in need of a young 3rd baseman.