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Peralta says Mets were interested, dismissed Tejada

Jhonny Peralta signed a four-year, $53 million deal with the Cardinals this offseason, but says he did get a two-year offer from the Mets and a three-year offer from the Yankees (NY Post, Mar. 3).

“The Mets said they had a little problem with Ruben Tejada and they were looking for a shortstop,” Peralta said. “I would have liked to play in New York.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I still say there’s a 50-50 chance Tejada isn’t the starting shortstop on Opening Day. I don’t know who it will be, but he continues to seem like a reluctant option for Sandy Alderson and Terry Collins…

As for Peralta, from what I recall, he was Alderson’s top offseason target. The way I heard it from people connected to the team, Alderson (as well as other front offices) were somewhat surprised by how much Peralta got from the Cardinals. I’ve heard Jeff Wilpon was rather disappointed, since I think he and Alderson felt Peralta could get signed. It sort of threw the offseason off track a bit, or at least sent a lot of people — not just the Mets — back to the drawing board.




55 comments
Dante Puzzuoli
Dante Puzzuoli

So this just means if they do go into the season with Tejada at SS they are a horrible horrible front office.

Nick Bornstein
Nick Bornstein

There have been rumors of Asdrubal Cabrera as well, now that the Indians' asking price has dropped.

Mary Keogh
Mary Keogh

I'm with you, mags328.  I love the team but refuse to drink the Wilpon kool aid.  They insult the players and the fans and don't give a damn.

mags328
mags328

When asked if Tejada was a core guy, Alderson says, "No, I don't think so."

Peralta was told the team had an issue with Tejada.

Tejada has been criticized for not being in shape, despite his age. 


Yet, Alderson wants us to believe they are happy to go into the season with Tejada as their starting SS. The team wants us to believe that they have and can spend money. They want us to believe that 2014 is the start of the Mets winning ways.


It's amazing how gullible they think Mets fans are. It's part of what has made me so apathetic about this team. I would be more annoyed if I cared enough. I still love this team, but at this point, I find it hard to muster up much emotion one way or the other.

tw22
tw22

I can't fault Peralta for taking more years and money from St. Louis, its one of the best organizations in baseball but bro, keep your mouth shut. Mo class.


Richard
Richard

I have no issue letting Peralta go to the Cards, he isn't worth the money, but explain Young to me, what were other teams offering a 200 hitter to justify a 7.5 million dollar contract, sure it's a bargain if you compare it Bays expiring contract. And how do you offer Colon 2years when no other team would? Omar would have been crushed in the Papers for that signing. I know our owners are broke but remember when the Mets were promoting Tejada as the SS of the future when they couldn't pay Reyes and now he is guy with attitude issues and we are totally lost as to who will be starting at SS with less than a month to the start of the season. The life of a Met fan, later the year we will be told that we aren't supporting the team enought to acquire players at the trade deadline.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

It's clear that Sandy was hoping for a Nelson Cruz situation with Peralta and just misread the market.But how then does he justify overspending for Chris Young? The guy had just two priorities in the off-season:  Sign a shortstop and get something more than a case of Cruex for Ike Davis. Every reason to be optimistic for 2015. But this year is going to be an absolute slog.

nolrog
nolrog

>>> I’ve heard Jeff Wilpon was rather disappointed, since I think he and Alderson felt Peralta could get signed.

Jeff: What do you mean he wants money?  Why would you want money when you could play for me!!! 

Pat Marotta
Pat Marotta

when you are down "a bit" sometimes you need to overpay "a bit". If they wanted Peralta then a least match the offer. Act like a NY team that wants to get back into the discussion. They spoke about how they would be able to spend more this off season because of bad contracts coming off the books; well their salary expenditure is about the same as last year. there has been no increase just a replacement of money already on the books.

mingo
mingo

Why does it matter what Peralta says?

Who is he to dismiss any other players since he is a PED user anyways?

I am glad that Alderson didn't go too far on a guy who is more interested in publicly denouncing other players.

Even if the Mets said something wrong about Tejada (that's another issue), that is no reason for Peralta to bring it up. He should simply be happy with what he has.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

Why hasn't Flores been used at shortstop yet? All he has played this spring is second base, a position he can't start at. Wouldn't it be smarter to give him reps at short and first, which are the only two positions he can emerge as a starter. Wouldn't it also be smarter to experiment with him now at shortstop rather than later in the spring when rosters have been slimmed down. I know Tejeda needs his reps because more likely than not he'll be at short opening day, but seeing Q at short every other day is just more of the same.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Peralta would have been a bad fit for us.  It's hardly like he's good on D and has good offensive years each season.  I really think he's a massive liability in year 3 and 4 of that deal.

sayhey24
sayhey24

Just read an article in which Jose Reyes said that Tejada went and worked out with him. To quote Reyes "he only worked out with me for a week and a half. That's not going to get it done." Say what you might about Reyes' injuries and antics as criticism there can be justified. But everyone in baseball marvels at his offseason workout regimens. He is dedicated to being in great shape for the season, despite his high pay. Wish we could say the same for Ruben.

ken1010
ken1010

If the Mets were aggressive, they could have signed Choo (instead of Young) and Peralta.  Peralta might have cost the Mets $60m for four years, as they would have had to pay more than St Louis did to get him to come here.   If they had signed both of them, they would be a much better team, and I'd be believing that there was a chance they'd be in the playoff hunt.  

I'm still convinced that they can put an extra 500k fans in the seats if they were in a race, maybe more.  They have proven that in the past.  So spending like this would have been a good investment, but apparently it was too risky for the Wilpons.  

sylow59
sylow59

fwiw, Perralta is on record in St Louis as saying StL weas his first choice.

Who-LeeOh Zee
Who-LeeOh Zee

I agree In a way Tejada steps it up, because this is his last chance. Unless we trade for Franklin.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

4yr 53 mil sounds like a good deal rite ab now. this guys a good shortstop. That's why the cardinals win bc they offered 4 years instead if 2 years . The cards do it rite they develop pitching and go w young guys but also open up the wallet for guys that they need. They will sign a couple of free agents and over pay a little bit. Ya mets got granderson and colon but that was enough. We shoulda got Cruz or even drew to mix w our young guys

hashburry
hashburry

From what you recall?  Why don't you go back and read your own posts Cerrone.  We all recall the half hearted and embarrassing pursuit of Peralta by this pathetic front office.  And why leave out the most telling line from Peralta, the the Mets' offer was "not good".  The Mets have no interest in building a winner.  And since you are just cutting and pasting articles where is the one from Sunday where there is a complete evaluation of how the Mets are nowhere near ready to compete with the Nats or Braves.


Pathetic blog for a pathetic team.

xplr
xplr

@Kenneth Meltsner  Sandy was amazed at the amount free agents were getting and jumped the gun with Chris Young. I think he was intrigued that it was only for one year. I  don't believe we will acquire a SS unless it incurs a very low cost. So, if we wind up signing Drew, you can bet your butt that Ike and maybe someone else is gone. That's why they like Franklin, his salary is very low.


Is it any wonder that Dice K and Lannan are here? They are getting paid next to nothing and can be sent to the minors. The Mets have zero interest in locking up players to LT deals. 

Young Ki
Young Ki

@Pat Marotta i.e. Jason Bay, K-Rod, Ollie Perez, Castillo.  OR in the Yankee's example.. CC Sabathia, Texiera, AJ Burnet...


They all got NY Team money.

nymess
nymess

@mingo  how is he dismissing anyone? he didn't give any personal opinion on Tejada. it's likely he was responding to a question about it rather than just randomly volunteering information, and just relayed what he was told by the Mets. 


the only thing to take from this is that the Mets have continued to display malcontent with Tejada, yet it's looking more and more like they'll start the season with him at shortstop. not saying I would have wanted Peralta, but the current state of affairs is pretty sad. 

#Knickstape
#Knickstape

@BringBackDaveTelghe  Looks like he will be turning into a 3rd basemen very soon or a fulltime outfielder.  I completely agree with you.

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

@sayhey24  I think Reyes is posed to have a great year for the Jays. Assuming he stays healthy. 

#Knickstape
#Knickstape

@sayhey24  I see Reyes' workouts on Instagram and I did not see Tejada in there not once.  The kid seems to be lazy and op-positional when it comes to workouts.

#Knickstape
#Knickstape

@hashburry  I am not defending Cerrone here but you should just go start your own blog if you don't like what is being said here.


Try it for a month and see where it gets you, then come back and let us know the URL so we can go there and micromanage everything you say.  Deal?

togajb2136
togajb2136

@hashburry  Hey man, can you please take this kind of stuff to the other blog?  I appreciate that some folks think it's super important to ride Matt and his staff for all of their mistakes and to make sure all of us know about it 97 times in each thread.   Thank you for the service, but I believe the rest of your Metsblog hating crew has moved on and taken the circle jerk with them.  


Also, if you came in to this offseason thinking Peralta was going to clear 4/52, then head on down to the corner store and play some numbers.  I think powerball is about 250MM right now.  No one was playing at 4/52 for Peralta to start the offseason and he was sold on the Cards from the beginning.

stemog
stemog

@hashburry You mean the one from the Yankee lover, Sherman? Yeah, he knows. Never wore a jockstrap in his life, but he knows what it takes.

mags328
mags328

@nymess @mingo  Exactly. To me, that's the relevant piece here. The Mets even said to Peralta/his agent that they were not thrilled with Tejada. Yet Alderson/the Mets want us to believe they are happy to start the season with Tejada as their SS.

Alessandro Fustinoni
Alessandro Fustinoni

They're a joke!! and they're liars! there's nothing more that can be said!  They don't care about us fans! They only care about one thing! and we all know what that is! They should be disgusted with themselves! Especially the players that have been here for a while now, they should be disgusted with these liars they have to report to on a daily basis!!

mingo
mingo

@nymess @mingo

How is divulging what took place during negotiations a public matter?

I'm sure there are a lot of things said by a lot of teams to sell a contract to a player. A big part of landing players is a sales job.

The point is, that this guy, kept his privacy for years about using PEDs but given the chance to say something negative about another player, he jumps on that wagon.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@SuperDuper @Zach Goeringer I'd take good offense over good defense honestly. Tejeda and Q as starters would knock in around 30 runs a year. Flores has shown in the minor leagues he can consistently drive in 80 to 100 runs a year. While I agree Flores would be a train wreck at shortstop, I highly doubt it would lead to an extra 50 to 70 runs being scored on us. I know his range is awful, all I'm saying is I think its worth a shot to see if the good can outweigh the bad and the best time to take that shot would be the first 2 weeks of spring training.

nolrog
nolrog

>>>> Flores has 0.0000000% chance to start at ss.


I'm not sure it's quite that high.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@BringBackDaveTelghe The club has said they are going to give him time at short this spring, so I think it would be better to do that sooner rather than later. I doubt Flores will start at short but being that he was a shortstop most of his minor league career and his bat is infinitely better than Tejeda's I'd say its worth a try in some meaningless games.

sayhey24
sayhey24

I agree. If he stays healthy he could put up some ridiculous numbers for a SS in that park.

sayhey24
sayhey24

Figures about Ruben. Reyes is a beast. Was surprised to see that in the last 9 seasons, in 7 of them he has at least 580 plate appearances. Considering the stress that he puts his legs under, that is pretty remarkable.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Exactly u jus prooved my point they went the extra mile something mets never do

mags328
mags328

@nymess @mingo  It's that kind of mentality the Mets have regarding holding their players, team, FO members, etc, accountable, that frustrates a lot of Mets fans and hurts this team overall.

mags328
mags328

@mingo @nymess  You are right, it wasn't necessarily professional for Peralta to have said that. But I think the more relevant fact is that he WAS told this, and yet, Alderson wants us to believe they are happy going into the season with Tejada as their starting SS.

nymess
nymess

@mingo @nymess  fair enough, but it's clearly the Mets who are dismissing Tejada (verbally), not Peralta. it's no mystery that the Mets have ill feelings toward Tejada. the mystery is why they've been reluctant to do anything about it, other than talk a lot. 

togajb2136
togajb2136

@Zach Goeringer @BringBackDaveTelghe  


This team needs to get real about the SS position.  The only two guys on the 40 man that can play the position (debatable) are either injured and/or hated.  Our other option is a guy that hasn't played a lick of ball at the ML level, BUT is from the tri-state area and we know how much Met fans love that.  


I don't believe they really intended to have Flores at SS.   He was moved off of the position 3 years ago because of his body type and cement feet. Those things don't really change with a 4-week bootcamp fitness program.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Why do you really think they said it?

It was too light a fire under Tejada or to send a message to Bora$ to go screw himself.

togajb2136
togajb2136

@Brian Descovich @togajb2136 @hashburry  


Look around, you'll find it.  It's one of three Mets blogs I visit fairly regularly and seems to now house the anti-Cerrone contingent.  It's kind of sad, actually.  But for those that are interested in continuing the dialogue once housed here, it's there now....

togajb2136
togajb2136

@Nick Squatrito @The Feels @hashburry  


It's true they went 2 years early and were trumped by the Yankees and further trumped by the Cardinals.  


It's a cheap ass team with shady owners, but let's put some thought into these digs man...