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Omar Minaya weighs in on the Mets youth movement

Former Mets general manager Omar Minaya, now working in the front office for San Diego, recently weighed in on the Mets’ youth movement (Puma, July 17).

Minaya, who presided over the drafting or signing of lots of the players making an impact for the Mets in 2014 – including Jenrry Mejia, Jeurys Familia, Juan Lagares, and Jacob deGrom – served as GM of the Mets from 2005 to 2010.

Minaya said that he “feel[s] good for the development people and the scouts. You feel good for those guys, because the scouts find them and the development people bring them along.”

As it pertains specifically to Juan Lagares, Minaya recalled that Lagares came to the Mets as a shortstop but “made a lot of errors” and was shifted to the outfield to “settle him down.”

As far as of lots of the players his regime drafted finding success, Minaya credited how the Mets have operated since he left, saying “It’s an organization, not just one person. Part of it has been Paul DePodesta and Sandy Alderson. They are part of bringing these guys along. It’s not an individual thing.”




112 comments
Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

He also drafted Matt Harvey! For all the talk of the minor league prospects Sandy has yet to draft anyone of that high quality

sheaheykid
sheaheykid

"Would I like to take credit for all these guys?  Yes, BUT THAT BEING SAID, I give credit to Sandy and Paul, Y'KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'? It's a team effort, PUT IT THAT WAY!" 


Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Nice to say that Omar is every bit as effective for San Diego as he was with the Mets, y'know what I'm sayin'?  This guy's only claim to fame was presiding over Expo fire sale. And he ends-up as GM of the Mets. A guy who never met a washed-up Latin player he didn't love. Had much higher hopes for Sandy, who has clearly been hamstrung by budget issues but has been every bit as poor at evaluating veteran talent.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Cecchini isn't looking very good in high A ball but hes only 20 so he has time .Smith looks like a good hitter....And Conforto has yet to play...And scouts compare Nimmo to Von Hayes

robby
robby

Omar was a good GM.  For a few years we were in the playoff hunt.  The players just choked at the end mostly due to Randolph and the Gangsta neither of which were good managers.  Jason bay was his big mistake he made.  The other moves were great moves.  He almost took us to the world series.  Better than what Sandy is doing for us now. By the way for all you Minaya haters most of the good players developed are Minayas picks.  Just look at the whole picture and the winning record under him.  Coupon Wilpons did not give him a long enough chance 

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Not to be off topic but Syndergaard really struggled his last start..hoping nothings wrong with this guy.

Rob Steven
Rob Steven

Please, this Omar love fest is over the top. We are still digging out of the mess Omar and his cronies created during his tenure here. His inmates ran the asylum both in the front office and in the clubhouse. I have never seen a man waste so much money on mediocre and/or over the hill players in my life. He makes Brian Cashman look like a genius. Minaya's "los Mets" philosophy was a disaster, extremely short sighted, doubling down every year only to literally collapse both with short term and long term implications. Give him credit if you must for a few of the players on our roster today perhaps, but given his pathetic track record of roster management and tunnel vision for older Hispanic players, how many of these  young guys would have a chance or been traded or buried by the Luis Castillo's, Julio Franco's, Moses Alou's of the world still alive today?

Absence makes the heart grow fonder? Not in this case, Omar was a horrible GM!

hankypanky
hankypanky

Is Ollie Perez still playing baseball anywhere?

Chris Kujawa
Chris Kujawa

See I thought Juan lobby to be an outfielder. He lobby me he lobby Fred Wilson he lobby Tony.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Every GM makes mistakes. To me Omar was a better than average GM who gets to much credit for some things and too much blame for others. At the end of the day it's easier to judge him now that the majority of his decisions have either worked their way up or not panned out. Sandy is no different. To me he starts to get more accurately judged starting now.

He needs to be able to show some impact from his drafts next year. He gets too much blame so far. Time will tell.

For the record Omar gets too much credit for Beltran and Pedro and way too much blame for Bay. Everyone lauded the Bay signing. Was a good move at the time.

wingo43
wingo43

Classy words from Omar.

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

Omar is a classic example of the Peter Principle, which states that individuals rise one level above their competence and stay there forever.

He is an EXCELLENT talent evaluator. Perhaps second to none. But he is not an organizational strategist, which is what today's GM role demands. He isn't the long-range thinker who is going to anticipate needs before they come up, lay out a plan and stick to it with psychotic obsession year in and year out.


He should be a head of scouting and player development. Few could surpass him in that role. As a GM, his flaws were exposed in 07/08/09. 


Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

Funny how Doc Gooden brings out comments so negative, the comment section has to be shut down.  

hankincolo
hankincolo

For all of you people giving Omar credit for players contributing now, consider the fact, that they all took about 4 -5 years to arrive. Or, roughly the same amount of time Sandy will have, what? Next year. His picks,...Nimmo, Cecchini, D. Smith, those guys will be Sandy's legacy. Too early to completely grade Sandy.

Rich Colacino
Rich Colacino

In totality, Omar did an average job.....of course there are players on the field who he drafted, big deal. That is the reality for every team. That Omar group has also been losers for 5 consecutive seasons going for a 6th. Plus, just as important as drafting these kids is developing the kids which he never did. Omar left our cub-bard pretty bare. He also spent recklessly and left Sandy in a terrible position to make any moves for 3 years.....all would be forgiven if they won the 2006 WS but they did not. I would give Omar a C- overall and if i were another team, I would not hire him as my GM...........but, so far Sandy only gets a C+ from me. He made a couple good trades but his whole plan is moving at glacial speed. Often times it seems as if he has no idea what he wants to do. His regime has lacked imagination as relies too heavily on the kids growth which can be painful and time consuming.

tullydew
tullydew

Omar was competent as a GM.

I can't say the same about Sandy.

Phil Mancini
Phil Mancini

Year 4 of the Alderson regime and most of the on field talent still came from Minaya.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@robby You are forgetting those ridiculous contracts to Castillo and Perez. In the latter case he was actually bidding against himself. And what about that guy who challenged the entire Binghamton Mets squad to a fight?

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@robby Big difference between Omar and Sandy. Omar was given mandate (and finances to accomplish this) to win. Sandy was given mandate to cut payroll, build up farm system, clear bad Omar contracts. Big difference between the two. 

I'm not defending Sandy but to me there's no way these two should be compared, not that you are but many here are. 

Even in drafting. SA's philosophy is longer term. Pick the highest ceiling guy (higher picks being high school kids until Conforto) versus taking guys like Pelfrey, Harvey and Humber college pitchers to win sooner. 


Jeremy R.
Jeremy R.

@Albert E Lewis I wouldn't treat any PCL pitching performance, good or bad, with much weight. We just need to get the kid up here and see how he pitches in a park that isn't even more hitter-friendly than Yankee Stadium.

Bob Primosch
Bob Primosch

@Rob Steven +1000 on "inmates running the asylum" -- that, plus not firing Willie Randolph after the 2007 disaster.

shea
shea

@Rob Steven You really think it was Omar who created the mess?  My personal belief is that the mess was caused by getting involved in the largest ponzi scheme in the history of man kind, and the subsequent reduction of payroll by more than any team in history....but thats just my opinion. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@hankypanky What I never realized was that Ollie was with San Diego and traded WITH Jason Bay to Pittsburgh for Brian Giles. 

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Jay Cross I completely agree. Helluva talent evaluator, but not the guy I'd want running my entire franchise from the top.

Max Denby
Max Denby

Kinda like Sandy's flaws have been exposed... The entire time he's been here. 0 winning seasons.

Doubleday
Doubleday

I would rather meet Dwight, the phenom, than Doc the junkie.

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@Jake Polom thanks for sharing. I hate how espn makes you pay for the good stuff, but whatever 


Im really interested in Conforto. i wonder what Law considers "close to major league ready", because i interpret that to mean he'll be in the majors within a year, but that sounds too quickly. But if thats the case, our 3rd outfielder problem seems solved

ponzies86
ponzies86

@Jake Polom If you have insider please check what the hell did that sport writer on ESPN NBA section say about Melo contract and how it was ranked the worst move this off season 

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Good research Jake. Conforto in Queens Sept 2015 and starting 2016.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@hankincolo  Exactly.  People see Strasburg and Bryce Harper, guys who spent little to no time in the minors and instantly made an impact, and wonder why the Mets have no guys like that.  Those are once/twice in a generation type players.


With the advent of the internet, we have access to every prospects every move, as opposed to 25-30 years ago when we had to go on what one or two publications that actually covered prospects would write about, or the minor blurbs about the farm system in Mets Inside Pitch newspaper or the "Rising Stars" section of the Mets Yearbook.  The scouts and teams knew everything, the fans rarely knew anything at all about the farm system and prospects.


I understand we live in a world of instant gratification, but the concept of players taking 4-6 years to go through the ranks of the minors is still common practice.

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@Rich Colacino Thing about Omar is he let the team get to top heavy and didn't do enough to help the team in the pennant race 


in 08 we desperately needed bullpen help but couldn't pull the trigger to fix the team

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Sandy is limited by payroll. Omar wasn't as much.

hankincolo
hankincolo

@tullydew Competent? more like so-so. He was too loyal to Tony the Buzzard. He lost his cool with that ridiculous hissy fit with Adam Rubin. He also made some whoppers of a mistake.. Luis Castillo signing, Ollie P., among others.

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Sandy does not have the wallet Omar had. Hard to compare.  Pre and post Bernie makes big difference. 130 million payroll to $80 million

heynow20
heynow20

Can't the same then be said for Omar?

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

@Phil Mancini That'll happen when ownership gives a new GM zero payroll flexibility and forces him to build entirely through scrap heap acquisitions and the draft. 

Rob Steven
Rob Steven

@shea - That is fair, although it could be argued that throwing good money after bad is the worst strategy to pursue in baseball. Omar has no business being anywhere near anyone's check book. The Wilpon's greed came back to bite them, no doubt. In a way you could blame this all on Bud Selig, who twisted Fred's arm to hire Omar and then twisted Fred's arm again to hire Sandy to fix Omar's mess.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Ah, something about Conforto. When exactly do we see him him play? We were told he would start on the Cyclones.

Max Denby
Max Denby

That's why blowing big bucks on busts like CY and the bullpen of past years is even worse.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Albert E Lewis @2ndhalffun Billy Bean took over a franchise in much better shape than the one Sandy took over, and has been there so long that his stamp is on the entire franchise, from the majors down to the lowest level of the minors at this point. Not a fair comparison. In effect, Sandy actually had a lot less money to work with than Billy did his first 3 years here b/c he had to wait for all of Omar's contracts to get off the books before he could sign anybody. This was the first year he had legitimate free agent money to play with. He used it to bring in Granderson, Colon, and CY. So he was 2 for 3, I'd say.


And if Billy were the GM this time, given the exact same constraints, I'd argue the franchise would look pretty much the same. He uses an identical model to what Sandy is trying to do here.